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I'm glad I'm old enough to have completed university because if I was born today, I probably wouldn't qualify. I think women gain great satisfaction in knowing that they are marginalizing men but they don't want us to be monosyllabic idiots. It seems they want men to be second class citizens not out of disdain for men but because they regard us as defective and they honestly feel that society would be safer and more productive if we put more restrictions on men. They want us to understand why and support such decisions. It sounds like they find us a bit annoying to work with because we're slower thinkers. They'd be content to just delegate more menial tasks to us and have us report to them when our job is done. I could have used tedious instead of menial (MENial). Men do have better spacial reasoning and maybe there will always be room for a guy to crunch numbers or draw up blue prints all day long for great pay as long as the big decisions are made by women. This question seems more directed to women than men though so hopefully a lot of them will answer it and help us out. We can't really know how they feel unless they tell us. Let's hope they (women) fill out this poll in large numbers. anon Well duh and double duh. A bunch of sub men are going to vote on it, and they're going to post messages with phony female names. HH Phoney names like "HH". Don't be fooled by them. Anonymous The main thing is that we've now achieved economic freedom from men. We have moved into every area of work and the professions and excel at them all. In competition with men in the workplace, we've already won or are winning. So we don't need to cater to men's old-fashioned, paternalistic needs anymore. They will have to cater to our needs from now on. To get our attention, they will have to listen to what we women want, the feminine agenda. Yes, it's right, we modern women want men to be submissive. Kath There's nothing better than a strong man who knows his place; pleasuring the woman to whom he belongs. The primary function of the human male is to serve women. He should submit to her, but he must not be a wimp around other men. A truly strong man knows that women are stronger. Anonymous What do women really want? Our balls on a plate and our necks in a leash reality What do women want? To be even more selfish than they've always been? They want everything their way even though they are more often than not wrong. If women someday gain 99% of everything on earth, they still would not be statisfied. They would be very angry at the 1% that men have and wonder why we think we are entitled to even 1%. Ed They will no doubt end up having things their way in the long run. Anonymous Women are successfully gaining economic control through their educational advancements. They may not consciously want to seize power at the outset, but they may not mind being in charge once they develop a taste for the benefits of calling the shots. Anonymous men on a leash! man on a leash Women already have what they want. They are in control without doing the heavy lifting. Anonymous I think that a woman wants a man who worshops her, places her above himself, is always true to her, and understands that she is the real boss in thier relationship. Mike The Venus on Top Society discussion group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOTDiscussionGroup/ Anonymous What Women want from males is their compliance with our wishes.If all men were obedient to Females the world would be without wars and famine.Violence would decrease drastically and males would benefit just a smuch from a Matriarchy. Big Brenda Women love to be pampered and made to feel desirable and beautiful. They want their femininity to be appreciated and acknowledged. To be adored and respected by the man in her life. A strong and intelligent man knows that by focusing on making her happy and pleasing a woman he will himself find fulfillment. shedirects Kathy, your insight on how society is changing is dead on. The impact that women are having in the workplace has to lead to changes in the power dynamics in relationships. Men will and are accepting the female agenda and this is a benefit to both sexes. I think the next step is the most difficult for women and that is taking the lead in a relationship and asserting themselves. This is culturally and I believe to some extent genetically ingrained in women to follow. Many women because of personality and disposition are not going to be fulfilled in a traditional relationship. They need to know themselves and seek out a man who wants to please them. A man who will not compete with them, but complement them. There are many men who crave this type of relationship and it's incumbent on women to investigate and look seriously into this lifestyle. It is one that offers the opportunity for true intimacy,romance and an erotic powerful bond between a man and a woman living authentically. shedirects Kathy, your insight on how society is changing is dead on. The impact that women are having in the workplace has to lead to changes in the power dynamics in relationships. Men will and are accepting the female agenda and this is a benefit to both sexes. I think the next step is the most difficult for women and that is taking the lead in a relationship and asserting themselves. This is culturally and I believe to some extent genetically ingrained in women to follow. Many women because of personality and disposition are not going to be fulfilled in a traditional relationship. They need to know themselves and seek out a man who wants to please them. A man who will not compete with them, but complement them. There are many men who crave this type of relationship and it's incumbent on women to investigate and look seriously into this lifestyle. It is one that offers the opportunity for true intimacy,romance and an erotic powerful bond between a man and a woman living authentically. shedirects Women love to be pampered and made to feel desirable and beautiful. They want their femininity to be appreciated and acknowledged. To be adored and respected by the man in her life. A strong and intelligent man knows that by focusing on making her happy and pleasing a woman he will himself find fulfillment. shedirects Shedirects, I certainly hope you Women get your way. I for one am more than willing to serve a Women. And yes, I crave this kind of relationship. ben Thank you shedirects the secret of Female Supremacy is a secret no more. Lou Rolls #022 - 2/8/07 Update If you girls want to lead,try being responsible for a change rather than just making inflammatory statements.I thought you were the nurturing ones. mike s mike s, get it throught your thick head these women are "MALES" the really sick and wimpy kind. Anonymous 4-1-07 Sun. #0025 - (Mon.) 4/9/07 Update Trouble is anonymous,that they (women that is) have already taken over,not due to having better leadership potential or superior reasoning but because a load of manginas in power in our society have given up all mens rights,thus you get a load of perverts on these blogs who haven't the courage to profess their true gender ,so what is the point of having these arguments at all?I only have a thick head sunday mornings anonymous and I used to work ,ie;get paid,for the league of freedom. mike s The continued advancement of the Female agenda seems to be certain. We men are taking on all sorts of responsibilities and tasks we never had to deal with before. Thirty years ago it was unheard of for a man to help clean and cook and do laundry. Today, if we had honest information, many if not most men handle at least some of these responsibities. Women now work outside the home most of the time. They look to their husbands to handle the tasks that they cant. And Women like this and deserve this. As they gained more control because of their increased incomes, they started changing what they looked for and more docile, helpful men are more likely to catch a modern Woman's eye. So we men have been "forced" to ajust. This is the force that began the change, but the momentum continues because Women are outperforming men in the business world and we need them to be able to survive financially. The tables are turned and we are now just seeing the results. thomas Women want to be treated like the superior creature They are. Anonymous Most people in this poll said women want to eliminate men. The way they always seem to treat each other, could this possibly be true? Wouldn't the world be boring with only one gender?? BK #0030 - (Mon.) * 3/24/08 Update Not really boring, it would be more like peaceful, you know? Liz To revive this branch, I'd like to ask our dear Ladies: What type of male to You prefer to dominate (to punish, to whip, to humiliate, etc) -- an emasculated/feminized one or a wholly masculine one? Nick N Sure "Liz". As if you're peaceful likely western society is a war torn totalitarian construction in which every single woman is a desperate female freedom fighters waging a courageous guerrilla war against the males who are seeking to destroy and rebuild their very souls as brainwashed slaves of the male new world order. Perhaps you're idea of peace is the genocide of all that isn't "right". Oh well, at least you will have "peace" at last. Ouch. FNOL Ms. Liz, would you not have a more peaceful life if you owned several male slaves who would be required to work their behinds off for you and submit to your slightest whims. obedient husband Women always say they want to eliminate men, or they want them to be more "in touch" with their emotions. What a bunch of BULL!!!! The worst thing a man who wants to attract a woman can possbily do is be more emotional or sensitive!! Women avoid men who act this way like the black plague. It would be nice if women could be a little more honest about what they really want!!!! Anonymous I think women want traditional masculine character as long as they can influence his mind. Also, no matter what, the men must be able to stand against other women and men and show no signs of submissive behaviour to anyone else but his wife/girlfriend. I love my girlfriend and I am able to stand for her any time, I know she's superior to me and she knows it too, but she let me have my freedom and for that I love her even more. I don't think she would like me to be her slave or something.. Bob Salinger to Bob Salinger: Good that you are what your Gf wants you to be. Simply obey Her even if She will someday wish you to be more submissive and to have less freedom. But if somebody's Wife/Gf wants him to obey Her, I believe it's our males' debt to satisfy Her requirements and to be punished if we fail. But a good belting is usually a wonderful stimulus to do our best to avoid any failure in the future. Nick N How Depressing: It's a Boy Study examines whether a child's gender factors into postpartum depression By Lisa Farino for MSN Health & Fitness Depression is one of the most common postpartum medical problems that new moms face. New research suggests that the risk is even higher for those who give birth to boys. Most moms will readily admit that rambunctious little boys are a bit more challenging to parent than little girls, who are generally quieter and less physically active. But the impacts of gender on parenting don’t necessarily start once the little ones start toddling. New research out of France found that women who gave birth to boys were significantly more likely to suffer from severe postpartum depression than women who gave birth to girls. The findings weren't limited to severe depression: Women who gave birth to boys were also much more likely to report a lower quality of life than women who gave birth to girls. This study, published in the Journal of Clinical Nursing, is the first to examine the impact of infant gender on postpartum depression for women in a Western country. Previous studies in China, Turkey, and India, found that rates of postpartum depression were higher among women who had given birth to girls. Researchers suspect the findings reflect the strong cultural preference for boys over girls in these countries. Another good reason too dispose of men. Alice Oh that was a very enlightening bid of info. THANKS Alice Liz #0040 - (Sun.) * 4/20/08 Update Wow, Take it easy 'Alice' before you're head explodes. Anyway I have better 'evidence' that proves the infeority of men. Did you know that in naionwide testing using a state if the art 'evil-o-meter', the average man scored 20 out of 10. I guess this is yet another indisputable reason to dispose of men. FNOL Or let it be China, Turkey and India who will supply men for North America and West Europe! Anonym I estimate that over the past two years, 90% of the new polls on this web site, www.LikeLike.com, have been about women who are strong, muscular, dominant or superior. Also, this web site seems to be one of the biggest meccas on the internet for those topics. STNG Fan STNG Fan, hope you enjoys it too? :) Nick N #0045 - (Fri.) 12/12/08 Update really really very big rock hard dick,thats what they want! Anonymous Anonymous, if you manage to have if after being harshly belted - my praise to you. Or maybe you must be whipped much tougher? :-) Nick N www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/the_return_of_patriarchy Anonymous Bang any woman senseless, especially with a good size c*ck, and she'll admit, or do anything. It is hard to be dominant when she's shaking, twiching, and sobbing through her 15th orgasm of the evening. john I agree...a big c*ck, used properly, is the best truth serum. Anonymous What do women really want? They want a sugar daddy who will give them A LIFETIME OF FREE MONEY!!! A guy who DOES NOT give away free money Their beauty now fading, the COUGARS want that now-successful geek who they maliciously rejected in high school but that geek has long since moved on to younger, hotter babes, YOUNG ENOUGH TO BE THEIR DAUGHTERS!!!!!! Anonymous No Cougars ARE the successes. They want young male sex objects who they can dominate and discipline. That's what makes them Cougars. obedient husband What do women want they want to be dominant but not in a belligerent manner. They just want to turn men back into boys who they can boss and carry around. Anonymous #0055 - (Fri.) * 4/10/09 Update Orgasms. long and strong Ask Mel Gibson. an intelligent life form Too many women don't know what they want and if they don't know what they want, how are they going to know what I want? A man To be f*cked to or near unconscious by a skilled possessor of a 9 inch long, rock hard, thick penis--namely...me! call me me Collectively, women want independence from oppression which they aspire to achieve by gradually passing men up on the ladder of success. Having successfully turned the tables in the educational system, women are in a position to dominate the workforce in years to come. As higher wage earners in control of the majority of the economy, they will be the decision makers of the future. It appears women are getting what they want, and more. Stan #0061 - (Sat.) * 12/18/09 Update Spoken like a true and most knowledgeable woman, Stan! So Impressed You go Stan, you p.u.s.s.y mined d.i.c.k Impressed is right (LOL) Looks like (call me me, #55) is looking for a job? guys Anonymous #0065 - (Thu.) * 1/7/10 Update You can call me names, but you can't logically contradict my point, because you know it is true. So you attempt to belittle me. In doing so, you have unwittingly illustrated that you are examples of men with limited intellect. You resent the fact that women are advancing in status while men are in decline. Understand this, you are the reason it is happening. Stan In response to the orginal question Wife/Mistress expects unconditional obedience at all times, an understanding that sex is when She wants it for Her pleasure, absolute control over any money or property that I can bring into the marriage and the acceptance of severe corporal discipline at Her whim. obedient husband ". It is hard to be dominant when she's shaking, twiching, and sobbing through her 15th orgasm of the evening." Most males are lucky to have just one and that lasts what a full moment of trumbing and pumping out a oz of fluid that makes a mess and can also be used to prove tha male is guilty of rape if the woman so chooses to do so. (that is power because the male will go to jail if he can not prove himself innocent but even if caught we get a slap on the hand so we win either way. Anyway, a males orgasm is like a small dried up steam and saying it is a water fall....ours is NIAGRA FALLS! It is so nice to be a woman and not a pitful male. Kathy I want to share my take on this...my husband and I are married for 12 years. As soon as I met him, I laid the rules for our marriage. I AM THE BOSS, period. Though I allow him to say his peace, I make the decisions, particularly when it comes to money and sex. I have COMPLETE freedom to do what I want, when I want, where I want, with whom I want. Men have, for all too long, told us women what we are permitted to have or do or say.Not any more. I have become a very independent and very liberated woman. My husband knows, understands, accepts and agrees with the fact that he is submissive to me. But trust me, if you start out your marriage letting your husband know that he is NOT in control, but rather, the wife is, your chances of problems for power control disappear. I have proven time and again, that I make very sound decisions, unlike him, and he has come to admit it. I understand that it is a hard thing for men to have to do, to admit that their woman is better than them, and that they are dominated by their woman. But that is reality. And with sex, well, I made that clear a long time ago as well...I need variety, and a feeble attempt at an orgasm or to try to pacify me isn't going to work. The sex HAS to be WHEN I want it. My sexual freedom is not an issue either, as I explained to him that for so many centuries, men have been the ones to have mistresses and lovers, outside their marriage. Well, in today's world, the tables have switched. It is the woman who now needs and should have, lovers outside her marriage. It boosts girl's self-esteem, and it really does help the marriage, where the husband learns quickly to satisfy the wife when she needs it, because her lovers already are, and he needs to keep up with them. Love has nothing to do with it. I love my husband, and would never want to lose him, but he also knows I love being a dominating, liberated and independent wife, and that control that comes with that role, is as important to me as my marriage. The total dominance over men has really only just begun. tt #0070 - (Sat.) * 6/5/10 Update tt Ma'am, do You use corporal discipline on Your husband? obedient husband No, I knocked him out once in a nude boxing match, and since then, he knows I can kick his butt. But if deserves to be punished, I with hold sex, while I continue to sleep with my lovers. tt tt Ma'am, thank You for Your response. obedient husband You are welcome. It's a woman's world now, so just understand the female dominance over the husband is fast becoming the norm andmy husband has told me he enjoys his life better knowing I am his superior in EVERY way, and his boss as well. Long live women's lib... tt tt, does your husband have equal license to be unfaithful, or is that a privilage you only reserve for yourself? an intelligent life form Dear ILF: No, he does not have the priviledge (proper spelling), of having lovers. And unfaihful is defined as having an affair without the knowledge of the spouse. He knows fully well and it is a result of what works for us. He is ok and happy, and so am I. (Not that we need to explain ourselves to you or anyone). tt tt Ma'am, Wife expects my absolute obedience at all times and complete submission to Her physical whims. I have never been happier. obedient husband Interesting how you moralise that, tt, but what makes you so special that you may take lovers but not he. It's obvious to me that you are living by some 'Divine right of Monarchs' principle that patriarchal men tend to live by. Please don't misread me, I am truly pleased for you both that you are happy with your lot in life, and Im certainly not here to preach, but PLEASE be careful. Oh, by the way, thanks for the typo correction. an intelligent life form I have known several Women who have multiple consorts and who take a position that They are permitted multiple partners. They often "lend out" Their husbands to other Women for use. This brings a certain equipoise into the marriage without violating the concept of Female control. The male is permitted outside sexual activity but only at the direction of the Female. Usually a Woman will not give Her male to someone that he is not interested in although it has been known to happen. A powerful Businesswoman once negotiated my use directly with my Wife. I had never seen this Woman before but I was instructed to be at a public establishment at a certain time and place to be picked up and used by this Woman. I followed orders and was well used. obedient husband Dear ILF: Thank you your concern. We are careful, but again, this is not a "Divine right of Monarchs" situation. It is simply a way of life for us, me the liberated and dominating woman, and he the submissive, happy man. He is a good man, a big heart, very open minded, and since our boxing match were I beat him soundly, he is understanding of the ways of the world and how it has changed for the betterment and advancement of women. And O.H., I don't lend him out because of one thing and one thing only: our understanding is that ONLY the woman is permitted to have lovers, and as his dominate figure in his life, that is how it is going to be. IF I decide in the future to "lend" him out, it would have to be ONLY to another dominating wife. tt I really cannot understand the sexes obsession with dominating each other. Would it not be better if they both worked together as equal partners for a common cause, that Heavenly cause that is Love? an intelligent life form That is a Utopian thought, but a good one. However, female dominance MUST continue for now, until things even out. Men for so long have dominated us females, that now things are the other way, with females in control and getting more control. yes it would be great for their to be equality, but that is light years away. Until then, female dominance will increase more frequently. Without insulting my husband, he knows I make very sound decisions, financially, sexually, and in everyday life in general. He tries, but he knows and has come to appreciate the total dominance I have over him. It took a while for me to get him to see it, but now he does. Slowly, but surely, I have come to dominate him in EVERY way, and it works for us. Do I enjoy the total freedom I have, to do what I want, when I want, where I want, with whomever I want? Of course! He does not have that luxury, because, again, he is a dominated man, I a liberated woman, and it works well for us. tt If you look up the Are men redundant poll, and scroll down to the latest comment, you will find my treatise on the futility of monosexual dominance. an intelligent life form Sorry, tt, I meant Are males redundant. an intelligent life form Very interesting, indeed. Thank you. But as for us, even my husband admitted to our friends he is dominated, in every way, and that he is happy with that. Even in sex. He knows how open I am with men, willing to sleep with them when I choose to, and he does NOT have that option. And again, he is happy. I know how much love I have for him and our marriage and he the same. My friends have begun to dominate their husbands as well, and some are accepting it. Others more slowly. But in either case, my firends are copying me in doing what they want, including money and outside lovers, separate vacations, and in general, making our men know their place...behind us. tt Have you read The Dominant Sex by Mathilde and Mathias Vaerting? It was their work that inspired my treatise on the futility of monosexual dominance, simply Google 'The Dominant Sex' and you will find it free to read on the first results page. I believe both you and your husband will find it intensely fascinating. an intelligent life form So tt, what is it that drives you to have to keep your man...behind you? Does it give your otherwise pathetic self esteem a boost? It's sad that your whole life is based on keeping some weak little man, who probably has his own problems, "in his place". Your pretense at dominance is made possible because you have a compliant male. One last question - would it be morally acceptable for a man to treat a woman in the same way? I'm dying to hear your justification. Pat Than die you will...I make it a policy NOT to justify someone with arrogance and disrespect, a reply. Now, had you tried asking me in the same, educated and civil manner intelligent life form has, I would. tt Thanks tt, I got a laugh out of your response. Believe it or not, I am a submissive man. That's why I read these forums, because someone has to inject some sense into them, from the inside. I admit, my query to you was harsh and somewhat arrogant. I was angry but was it any more arrogant and disrespectful than what you have been preaching? I don't show respect blindly but maybe I could have been more courteous. Your response is typical of female supremacists, though. You don't have to justify yourself. You don't have to be morally accountable for your actions. You have the divine right to do whatever the hell you please, with impunity. Does that about cover it? You do realize that those are all classic signs of a sociopathic personality? What you describe is not a healthy femdom relationship. Ask yourself, if you found out you were going to die tomorrow, would you spend your last day on earth with your husband in the manner you just described? Don't answer me. Just chew on that and then think about who is being arrogant and disrespectful. Pat Pat, as long Her husband accepts Her authority and is happy what is wrong with it. In my time in the fetish scene, I have seen Masters using the whip on their slavegirls. While it is not my thing that is their choice. I think these forums do cater to extreme fantasies because they are anonymous (even for people who do not sign their comments that way. Most long term relationships I have encountered are very loving. obedient husband Obedient Husband; thank you for the support. Please notice that again, as I stated previously, I WILL NOT JUSTIFY what's his name with an answer. But I will tell you that you are correct...my husband is very happy with our lifestyle, happy about being obedient and dominated, happy about being married to an independent and liberated woman, and has stated many times, that he would not change anything in our relationship and marriage. Guess you can say we win.. tt tt, I was wondering, have any of your friend's partners ever flat out refused to be dominated? I myself am single, at the moment, but when that changes, it's either OUR way, or no way. an intelligent life form OH, people are free to live any way they choose. I really don't care. However, this is a discussion forum. I raised a question and someone got bent out of shape about it. Secondly, people agree to all kinds of things that are not in their best interests. They do so for lack of self worth or because they are disenfranchised in some way and other people take advantage of that. I was raising an ethical question, regardless of whether someone agrees with it or not. Pat tt Ma'am, it is an honor to be permitted to support You and an even greater honor to be acknowledged by You. Pat, I guess you will never serve tt. obedient husband Obedient Husband: As tt's husband, thank you for showing her the support. As she has stated previously, and correctly, I might add, I am VERY happy with her in total control, and being dominated by her. Life is good, and there are few worries for me, or her for that matter. I know my place, and I do support her total freedom to do whatever she wants, wherever and with whoever. Again, we are happy, and not all people can be happy with our lifestyle and marital arrangements...but we are. Good luck to you, sir. And yes, she really does sign our return addresses as "Ms. & Mr". One dominated husband to another, we got it made pal. jojo LOL Obedient husband! What makes you think I want to serve her?! I'm not here looking for a date. Pat To jojo, there is no greater honor for a male than to be permitted to Love, Honor and Obey his Wife. To Pat, I do not think you want to serve Her, that is why I say you won't, but perhaps some Woman will come along, carry you off, and show you the error of your ways. obedient husband Thank u Obedient Husband. You are right. I am proud of the arrangement we have, her independence, her dominance over me. Some folks ask me why do I allow her to use "Ms." instead of "Mrs"., why I allow her to be dominate me. I don't "allow" her to do anything...she is a liberated woman, in EVERY way, and does as she wants. As a dominated husband, it's a real turn on to know your wife is so free and can do or have what she wants, yet controls you. When she goes out on dates, yes dates, for example, it's really a turn on to know that although I don't have permission to do that, she can and does. It's a turn on to have her sign return addresses as "Ms. & Mr.", or to follow her and when we disagree, to know that I MUST give in, and she then takes over whatever it is we were disagreeing about. I MUST rub her feet at least once a week, I must watch her receive a nude full body massage by one of her lovers, I must do the laundry...but it works for us. jojo Jojo it seems she treats her lovers better than she treats you. I've never tried to dominate a woman but I certainly wouldn't let her walk all over me either. If she loved you she would want to be out with YOU, not some other guy. So you do her housework while he gets to f*ck her? It seems he is the one that is really the dominant. You are doing the grunt work while he gets the rewards. Don't you have any self respect? Pat And, Obedient Husband, another thing: my wife and I have gotten so much closer to each other since she became a dominant wife. As you are aware, being a dominated husband yourself, there is a certain bond that develops when the woman becomes so dominant. There is, I am certain you know this, a certain sexual stimulation and arousal as well, knowing that the wife has such power and dominance, such independence, such freedom. JoJo To JoJo and obedient husband, I understand the sexual stimulus aspect of your wives dominance over you, but is it really worth the price you pay? an intelligent life form Absolutely, being Her chattel gives meaning to my life. She put a hand on my bare behind 18 years ago and I have been Her slave ever since. obedient husband Obedient Husband: I'll bet you and me get more sex than a lot of other men. My wife finds, as do I, exciting to be the dominant one, and me being submissive. As a result, she is so much more willing to have sex as she knows she controls where, when and at times, WHO she will have sex with me..or her boyfriend. jojo I submit to sex and/or discipline when She orders me to do so. Over the years there have been weeks when She hasn't touched me and there have been weeks where I have been beaten and used everyday. It is at HER whim and I have been trained to have no expectations, simply to comply when ordered to do so. She has not had any other boyfriends to my knowledge for several years and She also has not loaned me to another Woman for a few years now but She certainly has the power to do so at any time. obedient husband Good for you, buddy. Isn't life grand? If you are like us, when my wife finally does give me permission to have sex with her, it's wonderful. And that is usually after she has returned from an overnight date with one of her lovers. The only discipline I get, if ever, though, is denial of release if we had a disagrrement or I failed to serve her in some way. jojo Wife will perodically bare my behind, bend me over and administer corporal discipline to my rear. It is a reminder that I am chattel. obedient husband Then she is no better than the Muslim swine who abuse their wives, obe. an intelligent life form Many Women feel that Islam gives them protection. Admittedly there are some that are forced by families to embrace that or any other religion but this by no means applies to all. There are arguments that the Harem and the Burka help protect Women from male predators. Obviously Wife and I do not practice this religion but I respect the right of Women to embrace it. Also, last time I looked Catholic and Mormon women were still barred from the priesthood, and male orthodox Jews have a prayer where they thank God they were not born a Woman. Indonesia and Pakistan have in recent history elected Women to be Chief Executive of their governments, something we have not managed to do yet. obedient husband As Islam forbids women from earning their own living, either as employer or employee, and girls to have any true education, is's little wonder that many females trapped in the patriarchal Islamic sociocultural framework have no choice but to accept said protection. As for the Catholics, Mormons and orthodox Jews, pity those poor, sad men. They will never understand women's true value. an intelligent life form Your information is incorrect. Of the 5 main Muslim Jurist schools followed in the Islamic world ie Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, and Shia only the Hanbali comes close to inhibiting the rights of Women in this way. This was he school of Islam folowed by the Taliban and the current government of Saudi Arabia. Women hold many prominent positions in Muslim countries such as Bangladesh, Indonesia, Turkey etc. Please do a bit research! Socrates Thanks for that, Socrates. I'll get right onto it! an intelligent life form What about Sunni? an intelligent life form Sunni Islam is not monolithic. As I pointed out there are 4 legal schools in Sunni Islam. They vary depending how much they rely on the Koran and Hadith in law making and how much they consider other factors. The most liberal school is Hanafi Sunni. Socrates You are indeed correct. Sunni Islam is not monolithic, because over time, other breakaway sects cropped up. For example, Shi'a Islam came about over disagreement as to who Muhammad's true heir was. The main sunni (derived from sunna, to follow)class the other non sunni sects as kuffar (infidel), or possibly murtads (apostates) to be killed by "true" Muslims. You see, my friend, Islam is like a street gang. Once you're in, there is no way out, and if you leave, they will kill you. Why? Because it is their "holy" duty to kill murtads who leave Islam and kuffars who refuse to convert to Islam (from the Arabian root word al-silm,meaning surrender). an intelligent life form Good to see you have had time to catch up. I am no fan of Islam so I have no motivation to come to the defence of this oppressive ''faith''. If we look at conflict zones around the World today Islam is frequently the common denominator: Caucusus, Palestine/Israel, Sudan, Nigeria, Kasmir, Sinjiang, southern Thailand and Southern Philippines. Socrates A good Femdom fantasy would be to postulate Islam with the roles reversed, males are given in marriage to Older Women and are kept in a harem. obedient husband Correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive the ancient Amazonians practiced a version of what you postulated before the Greeks and their allies did them in. an intelligent life form The problen is obedient husband that Womyn are by nature very choosy. What makes you so confident you would make the cut for this Fem Dom harem? Lol Socrates In the past, women had to be choosy because men once monopolised posession of wealth and resources. Now that ever more women are acquiring, the imperative to select the best possible provider is somewhat lessened. an intelligent life form Evolutionary selection criteria are more resistant than that. There is no reason for Womyn to seek men as 'protectors' nowadays. However, across the world women suveys show women much prefer tall much over those of average or smaller. Clearly, though as women equal or surpass men in the job market finding a wealthy provider is no longer a necessity. Still, women's aspirations dont seem to have caught up with this fundamental change though. Socrates They will catch up, trust me on that! an intelligent life form Well Wife initially took me into Her harem. She had about half a dozen slaves when I met Her who She used in varying ways and She has loaned me to Women from time to time. Traditionally there may have been problems actualizing the fantasy but the Cougar trend is catching on. Tonight an aggressive Woman in our complex introduced Her newest toy boy to my Wife proudly recounting he was younger than She was. The Priestess of my church keeps two full time husbands. As to the Amazons, some accounts have them keeping full time slaves. Others have them mating with the Hittites with the Amazons keeping the girl babies and the Hittites the males. I prefer the former and I sometimes think Wife was once an Amazon and I was Her slave, which is why I was drawn to Her again in this life. obedient husband What women want is so hard to gauge everything about them is so different to us, they are almost a different species. What matters is what we as men want and try to forget about them as much as possible. 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