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In this kind of world, I believe men will become the unimportant gender satisfying the needs of the woman. In the beginning few women will use this kind of technology but it will we used more and more in the future. Women will ignore men and they will have just sex with them. But they will not have babies from the men as that creates a bond between men and women. And women do not want to look after the men. Women will use men but will not be willing to live with men. The number of girls will increase while the number of boys decrease. In the end the men will be sold to women for sexual purposes. The women will not need men for their muscle power either because they can be as strong as men. I am a man. Jodi so what? pity for men that means short, fat balding men will led to the death camps lol Anonymous Whatever happens to men in the future, the fact is, it will be decided by women. Anonymous men oppresseds women for ages because they were in awe of their power and afraid Anonymous #0007 - (Sat.) 6/2/07 Update Why would women want to have men around? They question everything we do. They do violence act to us women all the time. Robots would do a better job, they would work nonstop they could lift a lot more Industry are replacing man with robots more and more each day. And we all now that WOMEN are better lovers than a male any day of the week. Anonymous Once women have taken everything from men and reduced most of them to under achieving, unqualified, low earning labour. We will then see a very cruel side to women, enjoying watching men suffer. Sam # - 0010 (Mon.) 6/4/07 Update I am really a man. Jodi If we are all killed by a neuclear war, reproduction will not be an issue. Anonymous I am really a dumbass Jodi I am really a man. Jodi I am really a man Jodi I am really a dumbass Jodi I am really a dumbass Jodi Men will be bred to have thick long dicks and will be boytoys for us women in power. They'll also be placed in chastity devices at the age of 12 Kim Kim is really a man. Jodi It looks like there is only one person on this poll who keeps posting. Man you're retarded. John Jodi the i am really a man dumbass, has pertty much destroy the comment section of this pole. anonymous A pole is something you stick up your ass, a poll is something to comment on, you illiterate moron. Jodi Those with the brain power of a box of rocks, should realizes the comments should be somewhat closer... to pertaining to the polls questions, than yours are. But then again I suppose the rest of us should be happy that you finally figure out that your a dumbass male or man, really... after all of these many, many, years of slithering around on this earth. On behalf of everyone here, we would all like to wish you a heartfelt "CONGRATULATIONS" We know it wasn't easy for you. And now you can move on to bigger and better thing, like maybe you could learn how to open your eyes and see your noise I know it's a lot to ask of you, but we have faith in you!!! he,he,he. (Boy you guys, can I lie or what) anonymous anonymous, you are wrong. I figured out how to open my eyes so I could see for put-near a year now. So there...your wrong ha-ha. You see I was born long before they had DNA. When I was born the doctors & nurses couldn't tell if I was a boy or girl. So my muum being all wise, decided to give me a unisex name which was Jodi. As I got older, I felt sure...NO, I new for sure that I was either female or a male. In school all the boys teased me, calling me the ugliest girl that they ever seen. Well I been out of school for a long time, when I met the prettiest girl ever 1.27m tall & weight 32 stones. A real possible Miss Universe winner. OK...she did have a little problem with lice, but other than that she was perfect in every way. She was also 100% female lesbian. Anyway after a few dates she decided it was time to get it on. And so we made arrangements to do the hot thing at her pad. When I araived for the date & things she led me to the spare bedroom laid me down and help me get undressed, and then she went over to the dresser and pulled out a big black box, inside was a really thick magnifying glass, she said it had a 120 power lens, all I new was it was almost as thick as her eye glasses she was wearing. I ask what she was going to do with it, & she said that she hated men, & she was going to make sure I wasn't one. She took it out & started to check me out down south. It took her about 20 min. before she came backup for air, and with a look on her face she had just seen a ghost, she told me she just found my weeny, it was hiding behind one of my pubic hairs, then she ask me if I ever seen a dust mite? & I said I had & she said it was about the size of one of there turds. Then she told me to get out cause it wasn't going to work between us. Well I'm so happy to know what I am now, I keeping telling anybody that will listen to me that "I am really a man" I can't beleve it. Jodi #0025 - (Fri.) 6/8/07 Update the real good looking boys from a young age will be raised to be like sex slaves when they grow up. the rest of them will be raised for food. Anonymous Anonymous, Food for what? Other Anonymous Sexual reproduction is the only way to produce a population with sufficient genetic diversity to counter constant attacks from microscopic predators: bacteria, viruses, etc. Anonymous I personaly put very little stock in what someone says, when they don't even have guts enough to use there first name. I guess they think that their so important and famous that we would all now who they were, and know that they wrote it, even with the few million people out there with the same first name? If there dumb enough to think that? they got a very active imagination, and can and will make up anything. Oh "wow" maybe it was J-Low can I get your autograph???? Cathy #0030 - (Wed.) 6/13/07 Update don't worry,when they start having kids who have got every disease going there will be no sorrow for them,scientists,not believing they can be wrong will be putting them down and treating the kids,since there will be no males we shoudn't have to worry. mike s mike s, It easy to tell that English is not your first language. So please make your statement short and simple or get some of your friends to help you out with your comments. anonymous Once we've solved the problem with (FEMALE on FEMALE reproduction) males will join the animal kingdom, as he is shoved quickly down the ladder to extinction. (HAPPY HUNTING GIRLS) Sally http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YOB48WGM4Y&feature=related discuss #0035 - (Mon.) * 12/24/07 Update No,the scientists can do without women as well as men.Only persons with iq over 50 need apply to continue the human race so that lets you lot out. saracen395 I read an article today on animals that can produce by parthogenisis. Although they can do it males continue to exist in their society because males are necessary to produce children that are not the exact copy of their mother. In the latter situation the the lack of genetic diversity ultimately leads to problems for the species. So appears that some men will have to be kept as breeding slaves even after the perfection of parthogenisis. Kim's approach is more scientific than Sally's. obedient husband obedient husband, Kin was giving the three different choices, she didn't tell us what her choice would be. You seem too spend a lot of time twisting the ladys arms, trying too tell them how they should think (As if they were a bunch of dumb female with no brains)and trying too make them see thing your way, instead of letting them tell you how it going to be done. I can understand why you spend most of your time getting your a.s.s whipped, you got too be one real assh0le. Anonymous If you are a Woman I ask forgiveness for having offended you. Most respectfully, I do not try and tell people what to think. I simply express my opinion. Of course any Woman has the right to put me in my place. obedient husband #0040 - (Fri.) * 2/29/08 Update Control child birth to female. Castrate all men that are alive. Extinguish them after a certain age. Anonymous How do you control child birth to females.? Castrate all men that are alive,... well that pertty clear, How young do you plan on starting this procedure.? Extinguish them after a certain age...What a certain age? Tom TOM, WHAT AGE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE UP YOUR BALLS? Anonymous Oh,...I'd say about 180 plus years, yep... they can dig me up and snip away. How about yourself??? Tom #0045 - (Wed.) * 3/26/08 Update Tom you have already given up your balls, you just don't know it. Anonymous If that be the case?...That didn't hurt at all!!! "GEE" it looks like I grew a new one already!!! ""WOW"" TOM (I'M SO PROUD OF MYSELF) IMHO we inferior males must now do our best to deserve living in the world where we are not necessary even for reproduction. Surely some of us will be able to find a good job -- as eunuchs in Women's apartments. Another good percent of us will be used to do heavy manual work. We should try to find our places at least in this second group... Nick N How Depressing: It's a Boy Study examines whether a child's gender factors into postpartum depression By Lisa Farino for MSN Health & Fitness Depression is one of the most common postpartum medical problems that new moms face. New research suggests that the risk is even higher for those who give birth to boys. Most moms will readily admit that rambunctious little boys are a bit more challenging to parent than little girls, who are generally quieter and less physically active. But the impacts of gender on parenting don’t necessarily start once the little ones start toddling. New research out of France found that women who gave birth to boys were significantly more likely to suffer from severe postpartum depression than women who gave birth to girls. The findings weren't limited to severe depression: Women who gave birth to boys were also much more likely to report a lower quality of life than women who gave birth to girls. This study, published in the Journal of Clinical Nursing, is the first to examine the impact of infant gender on postpartum depression for women in a Western country. Previous studies in China, Turkey, and India, found that rates of postpartum depression were higher among women who had given birth to girls. Researchers suspect the findings reflect the strong cultural preference for boys over girls in these countries. Another good reason too do a way with men!!! Don't ya think??? Alice #0050 - (Sun.) * 4/20/08 Update To Alice: Looks like in this case the majority of Girls will be born in the West, while the majority of boys in the East (it's already so -- AFAIK masculine population in China is much larger than feminine one due to frequent abortion of feminine embryos :( ). One of the possible results may be that males in the West can become more arrogant in the future due to their less number -- unless the enslavery of males will be as slow as it is now. So, Ms. Alice, You should do Your best to increase the speed of our enslavery. And we'll have to support Your attempts with our obedience and eagerness to serve You. Nick N If us female can't handle the boys from the west, we sure as he!! won't be able too put up with the boys from the east especially the middle east. Thanks Nick N another good reason for us FEMALES, too remove males...from us FEMALES, Mother Earth. Anonymous Take it easy before you're head explodes Alice. It will likely be a woman that has to clean up the mess, because misogyony is alive and well in many places in the world and they suffer while you demonstrate you're HUMAN failings. Men are equal to women and don't bother slagging me personally, because you only need to stick you're head out you're front door to find a male who is you're equal. Why not try it ?. FNOL Dear Ms. Anonymous, you'd better leave these Middle Eastern guys to us, inferior males! You, our Queens, should not soil Your hands with this! Nick N #0055 - (Fri.) * 5/9/08 Update Are you telling me that women don't need anything for men ?, that men are merely impediments to the abstraction of the heavenly female utopia. Ha!, ever seen a girl who fancies a guy , geeze !, who said guys were the only sex obsessed maniacs ?. Some of you people need to go back to high school. FNOL We've got a new game we'd like to play with you, at least one time, there no fun in it the second time around, hows about it...big boy??? Joy I just notice this poll is having a birthbay today of 1, years old (June 1, 2007) with 1338 votes to it count list, that pertty many for being only a year old. Anonymous You mean June 01, 2008 don't you??? Jack #0060 - (Sun.) * 6/1/08 Update In a future matriarchy, females will have grown far superior, and men will have been reduced below 2nd class humans as there will be no need to use them for reproduction.Some will be used for sexusal gratification, but all of them will be raised and eventually slaughtered for the dinner table. Anonymous Only food for cat & dog and if us lady enjoy hunting we could use them for that and then fertilizer!!! Linda Ms. Linda, Wife has never used me for breeding but She keeps me around to do hard labor at menial tasks for Her benefit and She also enjoys applying a firm hand to my naked behind. Would you not like to keep a slave for such things? obedient husband Your wife is probably smart enough to realizes that she would have to pay a king ransom to get someone to take you off her hands, so breeding you is out of the question. Besides she sure doesn't want...or need two of you crawling around the house, and that is what would happen when the lady she let use you discovers she been scamed, and she is now trying to get rid of a defective curtain climber, with the threat of a lawsuit!!! Peggy #0065 - (Mon.) * 6/16/08 Update Actually Ms. Peggy, a powerful Businesswoman once tried to buy me from Wife. Wife eventually agreed to rent me to the Businesswoman for one day a week. Wife left me at a Dunkin Donuts and Businesswoman picked me up and took me to a motel. Businesswoman was satisfied with my service but the agreement broke down when She wanted to use me on weekends and Wife wanted it limited to a weekday. Wife can be very firm handed but Businesswoman was several inches taller and one hundred pounds or so heavier. She really blistered my behind that night. obedient husband Now was that in your fantasy world? Or was that in your make believe concept of reality world??? (as if there a difference) Mrs. Peggy (to you) No Ma'am it actually happened. There are a number of Strong Women out there who enjoy using male slaves, loaning them to friends or renting them out. I know several Women who have provisions in their wills that if they predecease their male property, the male is bequeathed to another Female relative or friend. obedient husband I agree with obedient husband: heavy and dirty menial work (like washing lavatory pans) and blistering our behinds for Your pleasure -- this are the two best ways how You, Superior Ladies, should use us, inferior males. Nick N #0070 - (Tue.) * 6/24/08 Update You forgot about blowing there brains out for the fun and sport of it as we hunt you guys down, that would be a great use of males in the near future, WOW!! I'm getting wet again and goose bumps all over!!! Anonymous Strong men will be used as slaves. Smaller weaker men will be raised for food. In essense Men will be reduced to the status of cattle. Is that a bad thing? NO...its just the natural evolution of humanity swine Dont worry though guys. We are ok,This is something like 500,000 yrs down the road as humanity becomes feminized swine More like 30 yrs., but you don't need to worry about it, an old geezer like yourself will be long gone,...way before then! Anonymous #0075 - (Sat.) * 7/26/08 Update SMaller weaker men being raised for food? Undoubtedly, it will happen, but not in 30 yrs. Feminization is a collectivist philosophy, not individualism. Less individual indentity, more emphasis on how you fit in the community. sacrifice is the key ingredient, so those who are deemed "less than perfect" could be sacrificed if it would benefit the community as a whole. Remember the concept of abortion is female. And it emphasizes that abortions will rid our community of unwanted children. IF men will be deemed inferior and only be used for labor and reproduction, the weaker ones used for food - again to benefit society. Feminization is not about empathy and love, its about collectivism and sacrifice. Its not a bad thing, but dont think its paradise either. Anonymous Hillary Clinton echos the concept of feminization in her book the "it takes a village". She also mentioned if she were president,she would open a dialogue to "redefine" the value of life in modern america. meaning, how valuable is your life in the village as a whole. Thank god she isnt going to get the nomination, but that is only postponing the inevitable Anonymous lol I think all you guys need to get laid Anonymous I disagree with #76 - Anonymous, when they take livestock to market they select the best, for consumption, not the small, weak, disabled and mentally disabled. Are you telling us that women will be dumb enough to settle for dog food? I don't thing so! Remember you are what you eat. They might enjoy hunting them down in some kind of hunting lodge or resort and standing over there fresh kill in a victory pose with one foot stepping on there victim head or face, for pictures and then they’ll just walk off letting them rot and turn into fertilizer, in the hot days sun, but I can't see them eating this scum of the earth like a bunch of bottom feeders. #79 - Anonymous #0080 - (Fri.) * 8/29/08 Update Birth rate of males should be controlled, and once reaching puberity all males will undergo castration. They will be kept naked with their penises a sign of their inferior and circumcised. Required to do heavy manual labor. At the age of 30 years they will be publicly extinguished. Males will be reguarded as animals. Pat At the age of 30 years they will be publicly extinguished.____How will there lives be extinguished, if it publicly, it would have to be made interesting possibly a very cruel painful and slow death. P.S. I personally think using them as game animal and Hunting them down would a good world sport. Linda Ms. Linda, there is an island off the UK where upper crust Women wish to hunt fox but the island has no foxes, so the Women hunt their husbands from horseback. obedient husband What a bunch of demented fools. Upon reading some of this stuff, I am starting to hear banjo music. Get yourselves some professional help. No wonder we have such a sick society. Bob M. #0085 - (Tue.) * 11/4/08 Update In time most males will be aborted before birth. Those whom we allow to be born will be raised 12 yrs for food. Beth Beth, I take it you don't agree with poll comment #79 - Anonymous P.S. How long have you been a Practising Cannibal? Kathy Ms. Beth, I will ask you the same question I asked Ms. Linda. How will you breed Daughters? obedient husband This would make a good comic strip. Al It is already possible to fertilise eggs using genetic material from any cell in the body - not just sperm. The technique could potentially help infertile couples to have children. But also could mean that lesbian couples could give birth to a baby girl without the need for a father. Women do not carry the genetic information required to make a boy. So men could quiet esily become a thing of the past. Samantha Men are already a thing of the past. Males are no longer considered the superior sex. In fact it has been well established by science that males are really only an evolutionary adjunct to the primary Female organism. Plenty of species do quite well without males. The theory that males were essential to maintain genetic diversity has also been shot down by recent research that parthenogenic species are able to diversify without males by means of genetic mechanisms that were previously unknown to science. ( http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/98/12/919.pdf ) Men can no longer legitimately claim any natural right to dominance in society. Women are becoming more an more aware of Their own natural superiority over males - more and more Women are realizing that the world will be a better place when males are stripped of their power and importance in society. Reproduction without males is the future. Anonymous Then we males must work very hard as slaves so Ms. Linda, Ms. Beth, and Ms. Samantha find some reasont to keep us around. obedient husband Some males will always be kept around because sexual reproduction will not go away completely. Males are quite useful for certain physical tasks, and they can provide Womyn with great pleasure when they are properly trained. However, the population of males will be kept at a level of approximately 15%. Only the most genetically gifted males will be allowed. The rest will be aborted. Women have known for a long time that males are really only needed for a few things, and the rest of the time they just cause trouble. Now that there is a real possibility of solving the male problem, it's just a matter of time. Anonymous "QUOTE" Only the most genetically gifted males will be allowed. The rest will be aborted "END QUOTE" Anonymous, I can just see it now, you poking the pencil and test paper up the mother ass, so you can test him. P.S. Will he be grading on the curve??? and will the test be timed??? LOL...LOL...LOL!!! Ben #0095 - (Sat.) * 11/29/08 Update Anonymous, maybe you are right. Then I completely agree with obedient husband. And I dare add that those who start serving women earlier will probably have some advantages - they will be better trained and will be able to fulfill more orders in a better way. That's why I agitate other males here to accept FemDom ASAP. Nick N If you please, I have only one question for Anonymous question #93, are for any one of you guys. How can you tell if a male fetusis is genetically gifted or is going to become genetically gifted at a later stage in his life? PS. Don't worry...I'm not going to hold my breath for an answer! We all know it B.S before Brains on these polls! Pete Pete, I guess if a male baby is really genetically gifted, our Superior Ladies will save his life and make him a semen producer. At least, this is what i can say using my narrow-minded male brain... Nick N Why is it that women are really into cannibalism? lol Even my wife is more open minded into the possibility, whereas I find the concept totally disgusting Anonymous #0100 - (Thu.) * 12/25/08 Update Nick N, Quote: Superior Ladies will save his life and make him a semen producer End Quote. So your saying the Female will try to make the male as amart as they are or smarter so women can become at risk of becoming slaves to the male ego again??? Why would they want a stronger healthier male? If they are really smart it seems they would want a weak and not so bright male? Are or you talking about his penis? If so how would they now if the male fetus they were checking out was going have a 3"er or a 15"er??? Pete anonymous #99 because our bodies creates human life.therefore feeding on that product of our creation will only make us stronger and more harmonious with nature.Its a beautiful concept if you really give it some thought! Ariel Ariel, I guess you are what you eat Jake lol true, cant say eating our own isnt natural Anonymous #0105 - (Sun.) * 12/28/08 Update Look to me, as if old Nick N has turn tail and run for the hills or maybe under the rock he came from. Pete Pete, I believe that one smart male won't be able to shake FemDom regime. A chastity belt and a good whipping are usually enough to keep us inferior males (even smart ones) in submission. Nick N Sound like a recipe that would keep them running on low power, depressed, and suicidal. The only males that could handle that would be the pansy asses which means there NOT looking for a stronger healthier male, there looking for dumb asses that they can throw away with no love loss for there part. Anonymous Nick, Laws inactive by females allows for public nudity of all males. Mandatory sterlization for at least 90% of all males. Castration sentences for males who do not measure up to the critique. Good whippings should be a daily exercise, to put color into their bottoms. Then males would be in submission, they realy don't have a choice in the matter. Now do they? Slave Jim (already emasculated) #0110 - (Wed.) * 1/7/09 Update What makes you guys think any women in her right mind, are public...would love to, are even want to see you FAT ASS POT BELLYS fools naked. Get real, it only you guys that have got the HOTS seeing each other butt naked. If women take over you fools will be dress in full attire. (all fatty skin covered up) Debbie Ms Debbie, You are absolutely right! Stout males look really ugly. That's why i do my best to keep myself slim enough. Slave Jim, everything sounds nice in your description except for emasculation. You see, I'm not emasculated yet, so I cannot say for sure how it's felt. You see, we inferior males have only one need - sexual drive, and our Superior Women redirect this animal drive into a strong wish to serve Them. So I'm not sure I'll be able to serve Women as good as I do (or try to do) now after emasculation. Though I accept that if any Mistress wants Her slave be castrated, it must be done without any hesitation. And all males who has made an attempt to rape a Woman/Girl must be castrated -- better publicly, by the victim, with a blunt knife and after a merciless public whipping. And all those whose attempt to rape a Woman/Girl was successful - they surely must be executed. Bercause they are like a tiger who has taste human flesh - nothing will stop it to try to taste it another time, that's why it must be shot. BTW, I believe we need a law which allows any Woman to rape any male - She may use a strap-on or his own sexual arousal. (Really if the male had sexual arousal, who dare to name it raping?) Nick N Ms. Debbie, if Women are in charge males will probably used as work slaves which will take off the weight and build muscle. Also whip marks across a male's bare behind will be a symbol of Female power as well as perhaps the brand of a Female owner. obedient husband DEAD males UNDER OUR FEET WILL BE A SYMBOL OF REAL FEMALE POWER Anonymous #0115 - (Sun.) * 1/11/09 Update Most respectfully Ma'am, dead males cannot scrub toilets, do laundry or be used as pack animals. They also cannot provide oral service to a Woman's crotch or rear. But You have the right to exercise the power of life and death over those males that belong to You. obedient husband Ms Anonymous, i must confess i agree with obedient husband. Because i guess that future developed FemDom society will still have some dirty manual work to do, and we inferior males are the best candidates to do it. Or do You suppose that it will be done by a Woman? I'm very sorry, Ma'am, but it looks impossible for me. Nick N Nick N your comments about the decriminalising of rape by Womyn of men made me think.Of course serious sexual assault is wrong whoever does it to whom.And I suppose you could say the "wrong" kind of male rape is moer common.You know when males rape another male. However I do think that a bit of groping or fondling of the male is entirely appropriate and he should not get to upset when we exercise our right to "test the goods". A gentle squeeze or fondle of a mans genitals and bottom or a finger probing a man anus should not be an excuse for a male to create a fuss.He should accept it as a fact of life and get on with it. Big Brenda Nick N your comments about the decriminalising of rape by Womyn of men made me think.Of course serious sexual assault is wrong whoever does it to whom.And I suppose you could say the "wrong" kind of male rape is moer common.You know when males rape another male. However I do think that a bit of groping or fondling of the male is entirely appropriate and he should not get to upset when we exercise our right to "test the goods". A gentle squeeze or fondle of a mans genitals and bottom or a finger probing a man anus should not be an excuse for a male to create a fuss.He should accept it as a fact of life and get on with it. Big Brenda Nick N your comments about the decriminalising of rape by Womyn of men made me think.Of course serious sexual assault is wrong whoever does it to whom.And I suppose you could say the "wrong" kind of male rape is moer common.You know when males rape another male. However I do think that a bit of groping or fondling of the male is entirely appropriate and he should not get to upset when we exercise our right to "test the goods". A gentle squeeze or fondle of a mans genitals and bottom or a finger probing a man anus should not be an excuse for a male to create a fuss.He should accept it as a fact of life and get on with it. Big Brenda Big Brenda, Ma'am, I agree as long as the male is not already the property of another Woman. If he is, then the Woman wishing to grope him should get the permission of his owner. obedient husband We concur obedient husband Big Brenda Big Brenda, why thank You Ma'am. It is a shame You do not know Wife. I would love it if She loaned my arse to You for your amusement. obedient husband In the future, Robots will do the work of man and will be much more efficiently and they won't require a bare ass warming and they won't sassing back! Anonymous #0125 - (Fri.) * 2/6/09 #1Update But most Dominant Women get off from beating a male's bare behind. Would they get the same affect from a robot? obedient husband Key word here is "MOST" dominant women: #1. There not that many dominant women out there #2. And of those that are, there not into asses or naked...like you guys are. I bet that most participants on this board are male, saying what they so desperately would love to have a Female tell them! And those that participate the most on this board are those that get very little in real life, if any at all (most of the males are smart enough to know their wife would have them committed and she would personally throw away the key if they new there little secret) because us female find this s.h.i.t. sickening to say the least. Anonymous Wife loves to order me to strip naked and bend over for Her and She gave me a hard beating with Her wooden spoon last week. Dominant Wives do exist! obedient husband One above,I rest my case Anonymous #0130 - (Thu.) * 2/19/09 Update Ms Big Brenda, i agree with both You and obedient husband. If a male is not owned by a Woman (and guys up to 18 yo should be owned by their Mothers), then any Woman should have the right to grope his balls (if he still has them) and pat his ass. More, any Woman should have the right to cane him if She feels he was too rude with Her. But if he is owned by a Woman, then She must give this permission for this groping/caning. Nick N A very sensible approach Nick N.Yes they should be able to pat his arse but we should also be able to pet it i.e probe and fondle it. Really like to make my boys lick my fingers after probing them. Certainly a slap round the face if he is disrespectful in public if not the cane or a tawse. Big Brenda A very sensible approach Nick N.Yes they should be able to pat his arse but we should also be able to pet it i.e probe and fondle it. Really like to make my boys lick my fingers after probing them. Certainly a slap round the face if he is disrespectful in public if not the cane or a tawse. Big Brenda Why does Big Brenda keep repeating itself, does it not really believe itself and knows it full of S.H.I.T. Anonymous #0135 - (Tue.) * 3/10/09 Update Ms Big Brenda, of course, it's the Woman who decides should this unowned male (and if he is owned by a Woman, it;s his Owner who decides) be slapped round his face or caned. Everything must depend of the Woman and how much inappropriate She finds his behaviour. I've noticed that some Women are very mild and unwilling to do any (even absolutely necessary!) pain. So there is a good sense to organize a special service for this Women - They would be able to send their males to a place where these inferior creatures will be caned/belted/tawsed by volunteer Women according to males' Owners' orders. An any Woman who wants to cane a really guilty male (otherwise She can cane Her own male(s)) should be able to visit that place and to take part in punishing a male there. That system would teach us inferior males that we ought to respect any Woman. Nick N I have expounded on this before Nick N.There should be re education centres for males where Womyn can do very rewarding work for the community in punishing and teaching males to behave. Big Brenda I have expounded on this before Nick N.There should be re education centres for males where Womyn can do very rewarding work for the community in punishing and teaching males to behave. Big Brenda Scientists have recently made a sperm cell from skin stem cell/s. If they can do this, the next logical step would be to use the same process to create an ovum. Step three, perfect the artificial gestation chamber (womb), and thus women join men on the scrap heap. an intelligent life form 180 plus years? They'll have rotted away long before then, they'd have nothing to snip! Good plan, Tom! Way to out smart em'! an intelligent life form #0141 - (Mon.) * 7/13/09 Update Unlike the simpler forms, Humans and other similarly complex speceis are obligate sexual reproducers. If we go down the parthogenesis route, our genome will surely collapse. an intelligent life form The only thing that will collapse is the male ego. There are numerous complex species which are parthenogenic. Parthenogenesis has been found in fish, reptiles, and birds. The point is that males are actually the minority in nature. Far from being innately superior to females, maleness is actually a mere mutation of the basic female template. In most of nature the female is larger and stronger than the male. Humans and other mammals are the exceptions to natures rule of larger females. Humans ma never become completely parthenogenic, but males are no longer able to claim natural superiority, and even equality is looking unlikely. Anonymous My dear anonymous person, not once have I ever claimed supremacy of either sex over the other, nor will I ever do so. As for Human reproduction, we need the biodiversity to survive that only the sexual method can provide. All that parthenogenic species ar capable of doing is a form of virtual self cloning. an intelligent life form Many anthropologists believe that the first Human societies were matriarchal, only to be diposed by patriarchy much later. So, if women have always been physically weaker, how did they manage to hold on to power for so long?, the answer is that originally, they were not weaker, in all likleyhood they were probably stronger. Though itis not known what sociocultural control mechanisms women used to opress men, these methods had a strengthening effect on the men, and the reverse on women. Eventually, the men noticed this, thus seizing the opportunity to usurp female dominance and seize power. After the "Great Male Takeover, the new masters employed every physical, mental social, cultural and economic repressor system they could think of in order to retain their newly won power, thus began the decline of woman. :( an intelligent life form Eventually, after the 'decline of woman' ... the male power structures which were based on the mythology of male superiority began to erode. This took many generations because males had succeeded in destroying most artifacts of the matriarchal cultures of the past and violently squelched any attempts to challenge patriarchal rule, but the science and nature has over time revealed the falsehood of patriarchy and the inferiority of males. Now we are seeing the inevitable resurgence of Female power - and it is coming back with a vengeance. Women will never let males repeat the injustices of the past and are moving closer and closer to absolute superiority over males. Since the discovery of the inferiority of the y chromosome and the advances of reproductive science which have led Women to the brink of parthenogenesis, Women have overtaken males in every academic field and are about to overtake males in the professional world. We are clearly seeing the beginning of the era of Female superiority. Anonymous Read "The Dominant Sex" by Mathias and Mathilde Vaerting. It is availablr to read free online, just Google it, it will educate and challenge assumptions! an intelligent life form Chapter 7 is interesting:-103- Among the early Teutons, the women must have been well grown, for in ancient Teuton tombs female skeletons have been found ranging up to seven feet in length. Ammian[3] writes that among the Gauls the women were stronger than the men. In this case, too, a reversed division of labour seems to have obtained between the sexes. Strabo moreover says that the Gaulish women were taller than the men. We have reports as to the women being stronger and taller in the case of quite a number of primitive tribes. Joseph Thomson states this concerning the Wateita, an East African people. Writing of the Bosjesmans, Fritsch says that the women were on the average about 4 centimetres (more than 1 ½ inches) taller than the men. Ellis tells us that among the Andombis of the Congo the women are stronger and better developed than the men. They have a splendid physique. It is they who do all the more arduous work. Among the Papuans, likewise, the women are stronger than the men. A parenthetical reference may be made to the amazing strength of the Tahitian queen Oberea. Jaeckel quotes Captain Wallis as saying that she could carry him about as if he had been a child. weaker Weaker, was this only because the women ate the same and exercised the same as the men, or was it perhaps also because of learnt behaviour influencing the endocrine system, in the same way that, for example, a male gorilla becomes a silverback by behaving more dominantly? If this is the case (a big 'if', and I am no biologist) then the hormone balance between men and women might partially alter to match the structure of society, rather than always being the reverse. Steve #0150 - (Fri.) * 12/11/09 Update If women could reproduce without men then I hope they will keep a few of us around for fun. svn18 Age 18, all males will be given a battery of tests. One for IQ, personality and physical. We also take into consideration academic history. If they score high, they are breeding material!! No castration for the purpose of breeding until age 40. If they score normal, they will be castrated and serve society in some capacity. If they score low, and their history reflects test scores. They will be castrated on the spot and be sent to a place where they will be prepared for the final phase. In a matriarchy, our sisters will know castration, euthenasia and abortion is the key to a peaceful society that is free from crime poverty and intolerance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Death(I prefer to call it human retirement) and castration is what an absolute matriarchy is all about, and whether you maybe 18 or 100, we all know we are going to die.In a matriarchy, its quality of life vs length of life. AND always death with dignity and compassion Priestess If you compare the female body with the male body, the difference over the years is lessening. A man was much stronger then a woman in the '50s then he is today. For a man, his physical strength is the only thing that is left for him in which he can beat a woman. If women would become physically stronger then a man then I think men would have to deal with a crushing blow to the male ego. And if it would become a common way for women to get pregnant without any intervention from a man then men would lose their usefullness and I hope women would find it in their hearts to have mercy on us. sven Nothing change, women are only usefull for making food, clean the house and sex. Now make a sandwiche, bitch! 100% male #0155 - (Thu.) * 2/11/10 Update comment # 154 Another good reason you male sucker have got to go Joy Could Joy (Pain) be a reincarnated Adolph Hitler, with hatred of men replacing hatred of Jews? an intelligent life form @Joy, Hello kitchen maid am I comment number 154? I know I am not that smart... And what do you want to do what do you want to do with males? And do you really think I will accept that? 100% male Dear Priestess, Your plan makes sense. Please only take into consideration that castrated males are not very eager servants to the Women. Maybe You'll agree to keep a part of us, middle-level males, in CBs? Nick N #0160 - (Fri.) * 3/12/10 Update As a Female Supremacist I would not seek to eliminate males entirely just because we have artificial methods of reproduction at our disposal. Indeed I would favour producing large numbers of males artificially (in mechanical wombs) to service the needs of the Gynarchy. This would allow genetic modification for particular roles. Females aka human beings could be bred from either normal sperm which is female or by newer methods. In terms of social devolution males will gradually move from being equal, to subordinates to women in developed western society within 20-30 years. This process is already well under way. Once Female superiority is an established fact males status will rapidly move from being our subordinates to being seen as more child like and dependent in nature. Matriarchal marriages will become more and more frequent. Males will assume their wives surname and obey female authority absolutely in the household. After some decades I forsee males losing the right to vote or attend tertiary education. Males inferior intellectual capacity will be an established fact by this time which males themselves will universally accept. It will then be relatively easy to argue males have no reason for existence other than to serve and please females. Males will eventually, lose the right to own any property and indeed become the property of their Mother, or designated ‘Mistress’. Males will be seen as slaves and bought and sold as one currently does with dogs and horses. This kind of society will rapidly lead to males being regarded by Womyn as a hybrid semi-human-semi –animal . The term human being will be exclusively reserved for superior Female. males will be referred to as ‘manimal’ , beast or simply animal. How might these sub-human beasts be used by Womyn in the future? I offer the following suggestions: Domestic male-serving a Womyn in her household. -Drone male-A worker male required for heavy or menial labour outside -Breeder/Genitor male-serving the reproductive needs of the Gynarchy. -Pony male-A low carbon method of short distance travel for Womyn -Laboratory/Donor male-For medical experimentation and donation of organs required by Womyn. -Guide Male-A talking dog for blind Womyn -Pleasure male-To be used by Womyn with no domestic. -Circus/Zoo male-For the entertainment of Womyn -Retired males-male who had passed their useful service due to age or illness. These would be humanely put to sleep. -Bull /Livestock male-Reared for Womyn wishing to eat male animals. -Prey Male-For Womyn wanting to hunt male animals on horseback. Goddess Amanda Goddess Amanda, most respectfully, if this mere male may address You, do You currently keep male slaves and how do You discipline them? obedient husband I have noted from your posts that you are a truly compliant and courteous male towards your Female superiors.Your kind of outlook and behaviour would be the social norm in the Gynarchy to come. I will therefore indulge you with a reply. Yes obedient male I own a small stable of manimals under my complete control. Discipline and correction is the divine right of all Womyn. However, a Womyn in touch with her inner Goddess can exercise complete psychological authority over any male without the need for constant physical discipline. I have found dog training methods highly effective in bringing males under my complete control. No doubt because the psychology of male humans has innumerable similarities to canines. While there are many books, magazine articles etc presenting this analogy as a light hearted joke I think the idea has serious merit. I therefore often treat my males exactly like dogs. Goddess Amanda Amanda, it is all bullpoo " Womyn in touch with her inner Goddess can exercise complete psychological authority over ANY male without the need for constant physical discipline" A whole female army could not enslave me.So how will a single woman enslave me? Don't get me wrong I like sexy women but I never become a slave. Anonymous Anonymous you are a cretin. Your arguments are childish. Not an untypical condition in your gender! I was referring to men who have already accepted their innate submissiveness and inferiority. These males show at least some potential for training and having a useful social role. Deviants like yourself sadly still exist. However, soon males like you will not be fighting vs the dominance of one single Woman. Instead you will be living in a society founded on Female Supremacy. From womb to grave the future society will be controlled by Womyn. If you continue to stubbornly expound such oudated patriarchal attitudes in the coming Gynarchy you will require culling. Slavery is the ultimate destiny of ALL males that will be allowed to exist in a Female Supremacist state. I urge you to educate yourself on the reality of Female Supremacy so that you can ready yourself for your fate and prepare for a submissive role that will be required of all males. Goddess Amanda "If you continue to stubbornly expound such oudated patriarchal attitudes in the coming Gynarchy you will require culling." This means women are too dumb to enslave me so we kill him. And how is a women getting me? When I walk on the street the first women say you are my slave? Call me a child but i am not crying every week in a month because it is my period... Anonymous Goddess Amanda, thank You for Your gracious response. obedient husband 'This means women are too dumb to enslave me so we kill him.' Its rather we reluctantly cull the men who are too dumb to realise their purpose is to serve and please Womyn. Of course the Gynarchic state would not be aiming for indiscriminate gendercide. Rather the tiny hard core of males who may insist on resisting Female authority and become socially disruptive will be extinguished. They will be given the opportunity for re-education first. Culling is an option of last resort. 'And how is a women getting me?' They are 'getting you' because they are getting every male in society. Is English your second language? Your comment on a Woman's period is ridiculous. If we are discussing emotional maturity how many women get aggressive, or violent compared to Womyn? Why are 95% of people in Prison men? Goddess Amanda If there ever was a real war between males and women, we males would not stand a chance. Ron #170 - (Sun.) * 5/23/10 Update I read these threads for entertainment. Let me pose this question - what if WOMEN are no longer needed for reproduction? Did you ever think of that ladies? I would never propose we "eliminate" women because I'm not, you know, a psychopath, unlike most of you who post here. Amanda, no I won't call you goddess, your statistics are interesting. Of course, men have more tendency towards violence. It was needed for protection of the young and females. Do some research into evolution some time. 95% of violent inmates may be male (I'll take your word for it) but that does not mean that 95% of men are violent criminals. There's a big difference there. So, you are proposing wiping out all men when 99% of men are perfectly well balanced individuals. What that means is that in order to protect a few women from men you will commit mass murder of many innocent men, believing you are making society safer. You have exchanged a few innocent lives for millions of innocent lives. Your logic is fatally flawed and is exactly the same logic used by Hitler who believed he was doing a great service to humanity. It also means that you are no better than the violent male prisoners you so despise. Do you not realize how so full of bullpoo you are? Pat Goddess Amanda does NOT propose "wiping out all men". In fact She gives a detailed version of how males will lead productive lives as slaves to the Gynarchy. I am not defending Her because a Woman of such power does not need a mere male to defend Her but at the very least, the misguided posters who attack Her position should at least refrain from mis-stating it. obedient husband It's hilarious that you can't stand up for yourself obedient husband but you stand up for a nazi who would have you exterminated if she had the power. I stated her position clearly. Learn how to make inferences from what you read. Males who resist in her world would be culled. Most males would not go for that kind of state. A matriarchy, sure, I can actually see that happening, but a female supremacist state is a silly fetish fantasy. Pat She would not have me exterminated because I show Her proper respect, something you should do. obedient husband Amanda is not full of bull s.h.i.t, she is full of cowpat. an intelligent life form Obedient husband, if you pandered to everyone who threatened you with violence you could end up one confused and doomed little man. If one of the groups demands conflicted with another's you would be destined for destruction no matter what. Sorry but your strategy needs a revision. Use the backbone that evolution gave you and stand tall like a man. Pat Just to clear things up: Wife may discipline me any time in any way She wishes. My existence is entirely at Her whim for Her pleasure. Priestess may discipline me anyway She wishes as long as Wife does not object to the type of discipline. If Wife or Priestess gives me to a Woman She may use me anyway She wishes within the parameters set by Wife or Priestess. I am not confused at all. I understand the hierarchy of the Women I serve. obedient husband No, OH. You were talking about Amanda sparing you extermination because you show her respect. This has nothing to do with your femdom relationship with your wife. I understand that dynamic and I would never knock that. That is your choice as an adult. However, you are talking about appeasing any old woman who threatens to exterminate you, by showing her "respect". If another person came along and told you that you were to show them respect and not Amanda, or else you'd be killed, you are now in a no win situation. You would have to make a choice and assert yourself. Just use your head, man. Don't give away your power so easily. Pat I would hope Amanda would not exterminate a male owned by another Woman out of respect for the Woman. I have occasionally been in situations where I was the target of a Woman who was acting in an over the top manner and I just said, "I'm sorry Ma'am, I am not permitted to serve You," and I walked away. There are Dominant Women, particularly in a nightlife situation who might get overly aggressive because of boredom or because they had too much to drink. The best remedy is to remove yourself from Her zone of control. Since there are probably five other guys who will throw themselves at Her, She will soon be concentrating on someone else. obedient husband Some interesting comments. I think the key points to focus on are. 1. Yes, women are superior and this fact will be accepted by all, eventually. 2. Some women would do away with men. But the vast majority of women love and respect men. Many are women with male offspring and will raise their sons to live in a female dominated world. 3. Most women are not violent and don't want gendercide. 4. Men need to wake up and accept the truth of their gender inferiority and that the world will be a better place once women's rule is universal and absolute. August 2010. STTG I have just noticed the rant by Pat that has totally misrepresented and misunderstood my position. Its an easy tag to underline anyone you disagree with as a Nazi. I am somewhat mystified how you could read my posts and conclude this. Exactly, where did I advocate the extermination of most men? What utter nonsense! Do you have a learning difficulty? Clearly, in the red mist of your hysterical response you forgot to actually read what I said. Its true I don’t buy into the equalitarian propaganda that teaches us men and Womyn are equal. The simple fact is Womyn and men are fundamentally different on many levels: genetics, biology, cognitive ability, communication skills, morality and spiritual potential. In most respects I think Womyn come out as the superior gender and the one most suited to make decisions at all levels of society. That means I believe the most harmonious organization of society is that the superior gender to make all the decisions for men. However, I don’t envisage a Gynarchy developing extermination camps or gulags for men! How ridiculous. This sounds more like something from a male FEM Dom fantasy than the product of a Feminine mind. Womyn in my view are characterized by greater compassion than males. So lets bury discussions of gendercide and lets try and have rational discussion shall we? Males can have a very useful and productive role in Gynarchy and will be dealt with in a compassionate but firm way. Male submissiveness is not some freakish aberration. It reflects a deep seated need most males have to serve and devote themselves to Womyn. Its just that male submissives have the insight to recognise this fact and are no longer living in denial. In a Female Supremacist state males will no longer have to hide such urges. They will be positively encouraged as normal , healthy behaviour. I believe this all reflects an underlying spiritual need in men to serve and please Womyn. As the highest form of life on this planet Womyn are literally the Great Goddess made flesh. Its therefore natural for males to wish to devote their humble existence to the highest manifestation of the Great Goddess. I sincerely, believe a Female Supremacist society is evolving peacefully. The Nazi’s seized power and murdered their opponents. Female Supremacists believe in a peaceful evolution of society so its natural order can express itself. Violence and bloodshed are the hallmarks of male patriarchal societies. Did Womyn create the Marxism, Nazism, or Religious fanaticism? Check out history and you have your answer. I think you will find it was exclusively men that founded all these movements. I do believe the means qualify the end. Using violence to obtain power or maintain it generally leads to an oppressive, totalitarian outcome. Although there are exceptions like the American Revolution. Mind you Native Americans or Blacks might take a very different view of subsequent history! Equally, you are left in the modern USA with a gun ridden culture where people still defend the right to own and use private firemans on the basis of a constitutional amendment designed to defend against further British attacks! My reference that men make up the vast majority of the Prison population was not to advocate locking most men up or imprisoning them. I was rather underlining the fact that this demonstrates the male propensity for violence and the moral superiority of Womyn. Its true I did use the term culling in regards the males that are socially disruptive or a danger to others. Is that so different from modern American society with its capital punishment in most states? That doesn’t make the USA Nazi state does it? All societies exist based on laws that protect its members and discourage what it perceives as socially harmful. I believe a Gynarchy will need to set out similar codes of behaviour that are required by Womyn and males. Males who murder, rape or abuse women will be harshly dealt with in a Gynarchy. Since males have a greater propensity for violence I anticipate it will be mostly males who fill up Prisons in the Gynarchy as they do today. In regards attitudinal issues such as lack of respect or obedience to Womyn I favour Re-Education facilities over actual imprisonment. Whether any men are literally culled in terms of execution would be a decision for the Female controlled government to decide in their law making deliberations. I hope I have demonstrated to you that a Gynarchy would not be an oppressive place for men. Rather it would offer them an appropriate and harmonious social role decreed by nature. Goddess Amanda Keep in mind I am discussing a single Female Supremacist or Gynarchic state I doubt this will be a global government in the forseeable future. Thus the Gynarchy will inevitably be surrounded by other states with different political systems. I believe that all males should be offered the right to leave the borders of the Gynarchy if they cannot accept its values and laws. All males would be allowed to make this choice at the age of 16. Equally, males who sought to undermine the political system in the Gynarchy could be permanently exiled if they consistently refused to accept its laws. I believe any population losses would be more than made up my eager submissive male immigrants happy to accept Female authority in all matters. Goddess Amanda The problem is men don't need female authority. Jealous maids like amanda need to accept that it is impossible to make this laws. All males got exiled,becomes an army, and put all females in a prison. Toni Amanda, you simply proved that my "rant" was on point. You continue to rationalize "culling" and re-education as legitimate means to your chosen end. Yet you claim to be non-authoritarian. You advocate for males to be given the choice to accept tyranny or be exiled at age 16! Love it or leave it, huh? We'll get along fine as long as we all realize that you're right, isn't that so? Democracy at it's finest, isn't it folks? Let me quote you: "Slavery is the ultimate destiny of ALL males that will be allowed to exist in a Female Supremacist state". ALLOWED TO EXIST! Am I being paranoid or does that not mean that men who refuse to be slaves will not be allowed to exist - be "culled" as you so eloquently put it. Another splendid display of your morality. In your earlier post you proposed a number of roles for men in gynarchy. Let's review just a couple of these fine ideas. Slave. That's self explanatory. Bull/Livestock - to be eaten by women! Do I really have to explain why this is...what's the word? INSANE?! Enterprising young men will also get the option to be Prey, and have the honor of being hunted by women on horseback. Nice. Then you have the audacity to say that you have clearly shown that gynarchy will not be an oppressive society for males. The irony is so thick you can almost choke on it. Your claim of utopia, being brought about by oppressive laws based on the superiority of one group's genetics, has been played over and over throughout history. Do you have any knowledge of history at all? Yet, you still think that comparing you to a nazi is unfair. That's rich. You see, I'm not one of these bitch-ass geeks jacking off over your monologues. Don't try to dazzle me with your doublespeak and bullpoo, and your so called superior female intellect. You're out of your league girl and you just got your proverbial skirt flipped up for all to see. Who's next? Pat - Kickin' A$$ and takin' numbers Pat. READ MY LAST POST I offered you an explanation of my of my serious position in my last post. However, you clearly want to go back to earlier comments that I have already stated were were tongue in cheek! If you want to disagree stick to my last post where I offered full clarification. I have already just said I am not advocating gendercide or extermination! What you call tyranny many would call bliss. I do not advocate violence as a way to attain or maintain powerr -again see last post! Incidentally, I am a Vegetarian and believe in animal rights-that includes males. Goddess Amanda BTW Pat. I have an MA in History! Goddess Amanda So Goddess Amanda Ma'am, might I inquire as to the day to day use of the males You own and keep naked? Do You use corporal discipline and what is a typical day for one of Your males. Most respectfully, obedient husband Amanda, I reread your last post, as you requested. Maybe, I was over reacting, I thought. After reading your post again, my position is unchanged. You simply back tracked on what you had previously written, once someone called you on it. You've done this before, stating that some of this is just dark fantasy. It doesn't change what you wrote and the fact that many of the guys here buy into it. Obedient Husband is right into it and it was him that I was correcting. You can say you don't really believe what you wrote, he evidenly does! It's not just this thread but everything you've written on this site, on which I base my opinion. Are you going to recant every one of these types of statements you've made on every thread here? Furthermore, you still maintained your authoritarian position that women will rule men because they alone know what's best for men. I'm sorry but you don't get to make that decision. It's fascism-lite. But thank you, oh wise one, for granting animal rights to human males. Your own rant was nothing but a softening of the edges, stating we will absolutely rule you men but don't worry because we will be kind to you animals. You do maintain that men should have no rights or power in society though, right? My last question is, what if some men were to refuse female rule and insist on a crazy idea like democracy and representative government chosen partly by them, as members of "the people"? Your answer to that question is all that we need to determine the moral merit of your position. I think we both know what your answer is as well. That's all that needs to be said on this matter so this will be my last contribution to this dialogue. Pat Just to clarify Pat I have no intention of 'recanting' as you suggest. Why should I? My firm belief in Female superiority remains unshaken. Following on from this I am fully committed to seeing the move towards a Gynocracy as the sanest and most compassionate organization of humanity. I did offer'clarification' on what was intended in a more humorous vein. This wasn't a 'softening' of my position it was a clarification of it. I offer no apologies or excuses as these are unnecessary. I regret there are no emotions here. Its hard to convey the emotional tone behind mere words here at times. Maybe its a culture clash. I suspect you are an American. No offence but you do have a reputation as a nation of having a rather 'literal' sense of humour. We British enjoy a more eccentric style of humour! Like all Female Supremacists I believe men are more peripheral to life than women. This is not motivated by blind hate or prejudice. men have always been more expendable since Womyn and children are the crucial core of a society. Societies have endured the wiping out of males in wars but no community can sustain the decimation of Womyn. Geneticaly the male Xy gene is a mutation of the female XX gene. Indeed, scientists tell us the male Xy gene is dying out like all unstable mutations. Equally, all babies start in the womb for the first few months from a Female template. Hence the paradox of male nipples! The laws of nature have decreed that Womyn live longer and are more resistant to disease than men. This doesn't mean men are irrelevent. They have long had a role as the protectors, workers and breeders for Womyn. In a Gynocracy this role would continue. However, in a Gyncracy Womyn would be the exclusive decision makers. Why? Fascism? Hardly. Fascism and Nazism denied the vote to everyone. The Gynocracy would be a democracy. Its just that the franchise would be restricted to Womyn. I understand why this proposal annoys and angers some men. There also some degree of fear and anxiety that Womyn might abuse this power over men. However, the lack of voting rights to men does not mean they are worthless. It simply means that nature has not gifted them with the higher cognitive abilities for rational, compassionate decision making. That is not misandry or hate. Its based on a cool evaluation of the evidence of history and science. Scientific research now confirms beyond doubt that the Female brain is significantly superior to the male. Research now confirms we think quicker, we have better memories, we communicate more fluently, we are better organized, we can multi-task more effectively,and the two halves of our brain are better linked. Womyn are more rational, calm, decision makers and have demonstrable greater compassion and empathy. Indeed I would state that overall, Womyn are morally superior to men. males have a well recorded higher propensity for aggression and violence. Its no coincidence 95% of the Prison population are men in societies across the world. This aggression might come in handy if your fighting off a Sabre Tooth Tiger or the neighbouring tribe but its increasingly obsolete in a society based on commuication and interpersonal skills. The excessess of the violent patriarchal societies over the last few thousand years have seen the extreme cruelty of male power. This violence has been unleashed not just on neighbouring states but on Womyn, children and ultimately the Planet. For the protection of Womyn, children and the Planet we need Gyno-centric values of non-violence, compassion and wisdom to replace the redundant patriarchal model of government. Goddess Amanda To: Obedient husband. I am not here to fulfill your prurient interests. Female Supremacy is not masturbation fantasy it is serious poltical philosophy! Perhaps I have misjudged you but I suspect you are seeking this kind of personal information for sexual gratification. I am not posting here for your entertainment. Goddess Amanda I said I wouldn't reply any more Amanda, but your last post made some good and interesting points. Much of what you said about the patriarchal model is indeed, correct. We are in agreement about the destruction done to our world under this system. I have been interested in matriarchal societal models for a while, but I do not equate matriarchy with female supremacy. Nor do I believe the system we call patriarchy was ever really about male domination as much as it was about class warfare. Women suffered greatly throughout history, but oppression was not limited to women. Just about everyone at some point was getting screwed under patriarchy. That doesn't make it any more right but I think it is easy to show that the war against women was one segment of a divide and conquer scheme. It's therefore, easy to pin this whole thing on men. Using that logic, it would make just as much sense to declare that only Black people can hold office, or maybe only Native Americans, since they were not responsible for the previous tyranny. If I believed that a gynocracy would solve all our problems I would welcome it. I just don't think it's that simple. Your points about the differences between male and female brain function are, I believe, mostly true. I can't argue against them and I have heard most of it from third parties before, but I can't verify how much of it is true or whether it is popular scientific sensationalism. However, for the the sake of this discussion I'm willing to accept that they are true. However, I disagree with what they mean. Reading about how much better the female brain functions one would expect that males, in comparison, would be chimpanzees. While that statement may evoke laughter from women, looked at honestly, we know it's simply not true. I'm not sure what these differences really mean or if they equate to blanket superiority, but rather, certain superior functions. An objective position would then have to bring up aspects of the male brain which are superior to the female. I haven't done this research but I'm just saying that these traits don't necessarily mean superiority. Anyone who is being honest would know that certainly there are many individual men who are more intelligent than individual women. I highly doubt there is much difference in intellectual capacity between the sexes, just looking at it intuitively from experience, so as I said I'm not really sure what the differences in brain function really mean, other than women will be able to do certain things better than men. They certainly seem to communicate better. However, I think if we were "keeping score" we would find that we can not make a case for superiority between the sexes. So I can't take your position seriously that nature hasn't gifted men with the rational decision making ability. All of this is very interesting but I think still irrelevant from a moral perspective. I think whenever you start viewing a segment of the population as more expendable or less important you open the door to fascism. If men are more expendable then it becomes acceptable that they be used as sacrificial fodder for the "greater good". The ends justify the means. Who's ends? It's a very slippery slope. I'll accept that your earlier comments were tongue in cheek. At the time I did not know that. You seem more reasonable now. I apologize for my harsh comments earlier. It's not my intention to argue men vs women. My position was always one of morality. We actually agree on quite a bit but I disagree with what you perceive to be a solution. For a whole lot of reasons, some of them moral, others practical, I just don't think it is something that should ever be attempted. Pat It seems we are finally getting somewhere in terms of a dialogue. I dont have time to respond to you properly just now but will do so as soon as I can. I do think a Gynocracy can only be developed through debate, non-violence and in an atmosphere of genuine respect for each other. Otherwise, we would be guilty of repeating the mistakes of other movements like Fascism, Communism or Jihadist Islam that seek to compel others to accept their viewpoint forcefully. I agree with you that men have suffered under patriarchy too. Forced to be eternally 'strong' and emotionally stunted. Sacrificed in perpetual wars or dying in gruelling jobs and in stilted social expectations. Perhaps thats why so many men are attracted to a Female led society! Ultimately, I believe we are at an absolutely critical moment in human civilisation in terms of environmental threats to our continued existence as a species on this planet. In many ways we seem to be fiddling while Rome burns. Its time for men to stand aside and let the 'clean up Womyn' sort out this unholy mess that patriarchy has got the world into. Of course if you believe Jesus is about to return any minute or The Koran has all the answers good luck. For the rest of our its clear we are going to have to work out our own salvation. Goddess Amanda I agree with almost everything you just said, Amanda. We're starting to see the system crumble, not just for the poor but even for the middle class who have had a bit of privilege. I welcome a society focused on feminine values, although that doesn't necessarily mean female. I do think it will be in all of our best interests to have women involved a lot more than they are, maybe even as a majority, but we are going to need all of us to turn things around. Fighting about who is going to be dominant, men or women, is just a distraction. Pat Goddess Amanda, Ma'am, I did not mean to offend. I find descriptions of Matriarchal households to be an inspiration to me in my quest to be a better slave to Wife. I admit there is a certain element of sexuality to it but this mere male's understanding of Femdom Goddess worship is that it does not separate the sexual from the rest of life. That is what the benighted Patriarchal religions do in an attempt to limit the power of Women. I find Your posts inspiratonal as it is. obedient husband To: obedient husband. You are correct that Goddess worship does not seek to suppress the sexual. However, the focus is the primacy of Female sexual desire not male fantasies. Moreover, many Goddesses find it useful to chastity train their properties. Incidentally, I find your reference to your yourself as a 'mere male' tiresome. As a Womyn I am perfectly aware of your inherent inferiority. Its implicit in the word male to begin with. Dispense with such language in future when addressing me here. When the time is right I will reveal more regarding my domestic arrangements with my males. Goddess Amanda Sad but true that Women are going to have to clean up the mess males have made of the world. It's really unfair that Women will have this burden - since males are not equipped to do so. It's male blundering that has led us to the brink of global catastrophe - so men really can't be trusted to turn things around. All the more reason that the male role in reproduction is being threatened. There is an increasing preference for Girl children and research into reproduction without males has progressed to the point that it's only a matter of time before Female-only reproduction becomes a reality for humans. Before that happens there will be a decrease in the rate of males being born, partly due to choice, and partly because males are less able to survive environmental toxins due to their inferior genetics. Women are the strong ones. yman Goddess Amanda, thank You Ma'am for Your response. I eagerly await anything more You wish to tell me and understand that this will be done, if at all, on Your schedule for Your needs. obedient husband : yman. your comments regarding the future may well come to pass. However, we have a long way to go before we get there. For example, in the two most populous countries on earth today ie China and India we see a disparity in male:female births with the former still favoured in these important societies. Ultimately, the growing ascendancy of Womyn and artificial reproduction will give a future Gynarchy the choice of reducing the male population from anything from 2-10% of the overall population. Personally, I think Womyn will prefer to keep larger numbers of men to serve and please us. Goddess Amanda Genetic superiority. Male population reduction. Enforced servitude. We're back on this kick are we? I thought we were getting somewhere Amanda. Regardless of how noble you believe your cause to be, ultimately the implication is a totalitarian state. I'll say it again and again. These ideas have played themselves out so many times in human history that we don't even have to guess at what the outcome would be if these ideas were ever adopted by the public. Pat Pat the genetic superiority of Womyn is a scientific fact. You really need to read some books and educate yourself a bit better. A good starting point is- ''Y: The Descent of Men'' by the British geneticist Steve Jones. If you want to play with the big Girls you really need to invest the minimum about of time in basing your statements on evidence rather than naive uninformed assumptions. Get back to me when you are a bit better informed on the scientific facts. As a Womyn I have never made any secret of the fact that I believe society should have Womyn as the primary focus. This is always been the implicit state of affairs. I just seek to make it explicit. As for Female primacy there are a myriad of reasons why this constitutes a saner organization of society. You keep assuming this transformation will require violence, It will not.Ultimately, men themselves will see the wisdom of relinquishing full control to Womyn. These boards are just a microcosm of what is occuring on a much larger scale throughout the world today. Goddess Amanda Male biologists and anthropologists - and now male apologists (call them 'manthro-pologists') have, in the past, written Woman out of the science of biology and evolution itself, treating Women as the peripheral sex and men as the center of the human species. As Women flowed into science after breaking barriers in academe during the 20th century, many of the flaws in the male version of biology have been corrected. For example - we now know that it is the Female, not the male , who is the primary biological form. This can be easily seen throughout nature. Human males are beginning to realize their natural inferiority to Women. Some males are frightened by this fact and this has led to the notorious patriarchal backlash of recent years. But males are now fighting a losing battle. It is a battle that was lost as soon as the facts about the y chromosome were revealed and Women began proving their superiority to males in schools all over the world. yman Amanda, I DON'T CARE about sensationalized genetics. Oooh, the y chromosome is deteriorating. Who cares? Who gives a flying F'in rat's ass? It's irrelevant. Explain to me why that means women should rule the world. It makes no sense at all. First of all, it will take at least 100 000 years for men to die out. News flash: the human species will not be around at that time. It's highly unlikely we will survive as a species for another thousand centuries. Anyhow, it doesn't matter. My argument is a moral one, not a biological one. The belief that some group should rule because they are supposedly biologically superior is immoral. You claim to hold a Masters degree in history, yet you don't understand the implications of that ideology. There's nothing wrong with women (start spelling it correctly) in power. However, the gynofascist rule, where men will have no rights and be relegated to the status of barn animals, is highly immoral. You want to talk about science? Start reading some scientific journals, not sensationalized pop science books written for the public. I read a great article last weekend about the myth that men and women think differently, that their brains process information in fundamentally different ways. They don't. We're the same species. But the popular myth of mars and venus prevails. To think that men and women would do things differently just by nature of their gender is scientifically ignorant. The evils of "patriarchy" have nothing to do with gender and everything to do with money, power and class. Race, gender, sexual orientation were simply tools used to divide and conquer. Women, who held the same ideals of empire would have done the same thing. You are a pissed off feminist who is stuck in your gendercentric thinking, that women were some special group singled out and oppressed by the "patriarchy". I have news for you: there were many women in those elite European circles that plunged the world into the mess we've ended up with. The utopian view of women-good, men-bad is contrary to human nature. Yman, your views on evolution are peculiar. This is the other myth, that males are an abnormal mutation of the female "primary" form. I'm wondering when you will bring out the "why do men have nipples" argument, LOL. Yes, nipples on men are superfluous. This is a by product of evolution. Many organisms have parts they don't need but are left over from their evolutionary heritage. The male evolved and survived through natural selection. The male gender is not a genetic accident. This is evident througout all of nature, with the exception of simple organisms which can procreate without sex. This argument about the primacy of the female form is infantile. Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on a tangent but if you want to talk about science, make sure you come correct. Leave the pop biology at the door. All of this nonsense about genetic superiority and moral superiority is and always has been the rhetoric of fascistic totalitarian regimes. That was my point. WHy not try to argue against what I actually said, Amanda, rather than repeating the same old drivel. Pat Oh dear. We are back to that disrespectful, impudent male reacting in fear and ignorance. You arrogantly finish your post goading me as if you have said something particuarly intelligent or insightful. You are clearly the kind of male that is incapable of basic courtesy or respect. A sad example of the feral male so rife in today's society. Quite honestly, I dont think you are bright enough or respectful enough for me to waste my time pointing out all your misconceptions. Some males are simply not worthy of training. Goddess Amanda Yes Amanda, when you can't present an argument, just claim superiority. I think that's brilliant. Pat Pat, the likes of Amanda are no different to religious fundamentalists. Such people constantly fly in the face of science. an intelligent life form Intelligent life form, that's true. Although, they like to selectively pick out scientific facts and imbue them with meaning that suits their agenda. Sometimes they actually believe their own misguided notions and don't realize their conclusions are ungrounded. I'm afraid, critical thinking is a lost art. Pat I fly in the face of science? Hardly. The truth is its you who are in denial of the scientific evidence because it doesn't match your equalitarian prejudices. To label someone 'as like' a religious fundamentalist or like a fascist is fine for coffee shop chatter but its hardly a logical argument. Its the old guilt by labelling trick. Anyone who who can link such vastly dissimilar attitudes as all the same clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. Lets challenge you out of your smug arrogance. Show me some hard scientific research to prove there are no differences between the genders..................................................................................................................................................... Goddess Amanda Add a comment: Vote Results |
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