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who is the stronger sex in wrestling?

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Created by: asto at 09:10:27 AM, Monday, January 19, 2004 PST

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Women are the stronger sex.

Angie


Yes , women become more powerful than men

none
I agree. Women seem so competent and focused these days. They are more intelligent and disciplined than men.

Bill
Women are outperforming men everywhere else these days, and wrestling is no exception.

Patricia
My wife is a bout twice as strong as me even if she is 10 years older at 51. She is also much more limber than me making our wrestling matches very onesided (but nevertheless very exciting). I used to be ashamed of being a lot weaker then her but I am ok with that now, especially since she has won agains a lot of our male friends in arm wrestling matches

minstarkafru
There is no doubt women are considered the stronger sex these days.

William
Women have the advantage because the man fears the humiliation of being overpowered by a woman.

Juan
The superiority of women has become a generally accepted fact in day do day life. Sports and entertainment is just one more area where females are proving they are in charge.

Steven
you guys are idiots.

dave
They are not idiots, they are just smart enough to acknowledge the truth. Women are superior.

Julie
no his right, you guys are idiots

Anonymous
No,his left.

Anonymous
I bet not a single male on this forum would stand a chance against Chyna.

Anonymous
I bet not a single female on this forum would stand a chance against Stone Cold Steve Austin....

Add Comment
Females are the stronger sex.

Tammie
I was wrestling a strong girl this weekend and i beat her no problem infact she forfiteted the match half way through when I got her in a head lock and crushed her little neck with my huge pythons I heard a little squeal before her arm went limp heck and im only 13 for god sakes girls being stronger then boys is the stupidest thing i have ever heard were is all this poo comming from girls might be strong but there NOT stronger then the strongest boy

Muscled boy
Females are the stronger sex. Always.

Anonymous
I'm getting sick and tired of Anonymous. If you are so convinced of your opinions, why do you hide behind a mask?

Steven
Females are the stronger sex. Always.

Anonymous
I watched my sister in law beat my brother at arm wrestling several times with both left & right just the other day. She has been weight lifting at home for about a year and I was surprised at her big muscles as she flexes! Bigger than his that's for sure and maybe most guys her size! My brother's weights she used and they have been together for only two years, I say "dude, she is way stronger and has huge muscles" he says "I know, I work out hard but she is pumping iron when I'm at work" I think girls are stronger now because I see them at school in the weight room with muscles that show in their arms.

Brad
Within 20 years women will dominate society.

Anonymous
I wrestle often with my wife, she bests me most because she did working out since 15 years, mor you can read in my yahooprofil "wre110"

Wre110
No man can beat a woman who is in shape and had training.

Woman Rules
Women are superior!

Anonymous
I watched two girls wrestling in High School with all the others being boys. One girl won in her weight class and the other finally got beat but took second place. Only two girls and so many boys, seems their chances were slim. Both of those girls had about the best developed muscles, bigger muscles than most all boys had. Even more noticeable was the girl's better endurance. Boys could hardly catch their breath after a match and looked wore out while the two girls really didn't look tired and minutes after a match they were breathing normal! The girls were so strong they kept the boys pinned while the boys could hardly move and had them pinned so fast! One boy's face was turning red as this girl squeezed him and he cried after he lost! It seemed kind of weird to watch a boy squirming and see a girl's strength bring that boy's movement to a stop and see her muscles flexed. The looks on some of the parents & couches faces too. Girls are much stronger than many people realize. Especially when they train for sports, they seem to build strong muscles very well too.

Paul
Not only do girls have the capacity to develop superior strength and endurance, women can stay strong and fit much later in life than men, who gradually become weaker after age 24.

Anonymous
I have read that women maintain muscle much better than men after about 25 years old. My wife and I are in our late fourties and we work out with weights. I honestly admit she has out muscled me. My muscles have become somewhat smaller than they were ten years ago even though I exercise still. On the other hand my wife has built considerable muscle size in the last five years and has much more endurance than I do. She rubs it in about her muscles being bigger than mine and so there must truth to the older women's strength. She is stronger now than ever before and more muscular. I hate to admit this too but she has much better developed muscles now than I did when I was younger! We don't wrestle very often but we have and I used to beat her but not now, same with arm wrestling. What surprises me is her ability to pump her muscles up with weights like she is 25 years old and I just do not have that going for me now days. Many women are so much stronger than most men realize. I really adore my wife but I'm having trouble being envious about her physique, especially her having bigger muscles. I'm only an inch taller too so when we look in the mirror she looks like a body builder and I look like a distance runner. She likes to compare muscles after a work out and makes comments about the size differences and that's not real easy to face for a man.

mid life married man
Her name was Tara and we ended up at her apartment after some drinks at the pub. She wasn't my "normal" type of girl, almost as tall as my 6 feet and a lot wider. When we came to her place she almost directly said that she never had sex with a man before wrestling him. I was very surprised at this of course but being a bit drunk and curious about this lady I agreed. A few hours later I fell asleep in her arms after experienced a night where I discovered that woman can be strong, really strong AND good wrestlers. My Tara had worked for a show as a wrestler in Germany for some year and knew all the tricks in the book. She had beaten me anyway since she was far more muscular than me. But she was also very feminine, she teased me all the way about being weaker but she also caressed me when she had me pinned making me beg her at the end to have sex with me. And that was the best sex I have ever had. I still wake up beside Tara, admiring her strong body. We still wrestle several times a week even if I never have the chance to get the upper hand. We are close to 60 years now and keep fit. Tara changed me. Women should have the physical strenght in general, the world should be a better place then, I am sure.

Happy and weak
I finally wrestled my wife, she has been going to a gym for around two years now and has some real muscles. She beat me and pinned me where I couldn't move. I knew this was coming because I have watched her muscles grow larger over time. Plus she began to talk about wrestling me and flex more often, taliking about her muscle size compared to mine. Her's are bigger and she wanted me to admitt that.

Phil
You men who are losing wrestling matches to women must be grossly out of shape. Instead of marveling at her fitness why don't you take a more objective view of yourselves? Has it occured to any of you that women don't compete directly against men in most sports because they can't? Football, soccer, rugby, hockey, baseball, boxing, given equal fitness, women have way too much of a size disadvantage. Even jockeys. You'd think more women would be jockeys because more of them are quite small but they are not strong enough. Drag your sorry asses off the sofa and get some exercise otherwise she's not going to be your wife, she's going to be your widow. Women have a lot of advantages over men but brute strength is not one of them.

Anonymous
I pulled my husband's weights & bench out from the garage where he left them for some time with boxes on stacked on top. I have a place in my enclosed patio that I work out every day when he is at work. About two years now and I'm much stronger at wrestling or arm wrestling. I have bigger muscles from my workouts as I have been comparing with his more now that I found I could outwrestle him. I wouldn't think I was average fow a woman but the polls show stronger women more often now.

Susan
Men normally are stronger I believe but that doesn't count when I challange my husband. He is very slim where I am big and powerfully built. I have always been stronger than him and we both knew that when we met. The reason for me to look at this poll is that some friends of us think we are very different from everybody else, with a big strong woman and a smaller and weaker man but it seems we are not alone. My husband is rather cool about the situation except from when I lift him in public.

Powerhouse wife
My wife and I have some home gym equipment and have never used a gym membership until a year ago when she joined a gym. I was kind of put away recently when she showed me that her muscles are bigger with a tape measure. She's larger in biceps claves and thighs and is now only five pounds lighter than I am even though I'm four inches taller. She says that I'm ectomorphic [having a lightly-muscled build] and that she is [mesomorphic] having a robust muscular body-build characterized by predominance of structures (bone and muscle and connective tissue) developed from the embryonic mesodermal layer. I looked up the definitions and that's what I find. She also says she has much more fast twitch muscle fiber making them bigger and that me having testosterone will not make my muscles somehow catch up to hers. This of course has now lead up to wrestling and me taking the brunt of her strength because she can pin me soon enough she spends time putting more and more power into her holds that becomes painful and thinks it's a great form of exercise for her. I would never have thought that I would be weaker than her or it would be turned into a workout for her to pin and hold me. What concerns me is that she is either getting stronger or is willing to use more strength during wrestling. I'm working out more as a result of this but it seams she is really enjoying the new found truth about who is stronger. She prods me to fight hard only so she can turn up her power on me and make things worse and is finding positions to put me in and add muscle power to the hold sometimes she is no longer listening to "I give" asking me to "try to stop me". She has been asking me when I'm pinned if I think she is strong enough to break my bones. I think now it's possible and the fun is no longer there for me as a workout for her. What the hell should I do? I feel stupid saying anything and like a dummy it was I who said "lets wrestle" and now I'm battling my wife and loosing!

DC
DC, can your wife lift you? overhead?

curious
Powerhouse wife, can you lift your husband overhead? What are your relative ages, heights and weights? Thanks.

crismoss
this is crap guys are born stronger than girls. But i guess more girls are fit than guys

normal male
I am 5'10 and 180 pounds, my husband is 5'9 but only 130 pounds. I never tried to lift him overhead but I have lifted him lying down on our bed, I just pressed him up from my body. I can lift him in my arms and cradle carry him for a very long time, this is ok with him when we are alone in our house but I have have lifted him in public, on the beach etc. He doesn´t like that. But normally he is cool being smaller and weaker than me.

powerhouse wife
I am 5'10 and 180 pounds, my husband is 5'9 but only 130 pounds. I never tried to lift him overhead but I have lifted him lying down on our bed, I just pressed him up from my body. I can lift him in my arms and cradle carry him for a very long time, this is ok with him when we are alone in our house but I have have lifted him in public, on the beach etc. He doesn´t like that. But normally he is cool being smaller and weaker than me.

powerhouse wife
powerhouse wife I sure do envy your husband. I have always wanted my wife to be able to do that, especially the cradling.

Wowser
My wife and I work out together and she is developing some muscles that are quite noticeable when we are exercising. Not long ago we got into a wrestling match at home on the floor. After what was maybe ten minutes she had me in a hold with her legs holding mine and my arms pulled behind my back with her being on my back. I really was shocked at her being able to pin me and hold me so I couldn't do any thing about it. Women can become very strong when they exercise. She is also showing me her flexed muscles, something she never did before.

dumbfounded dummy
Powerhouse wife I take it that you can't lift your husband overhead? Do you have any kids?

Anonymous
I am sure I can lift my husband overhead since he is only 130 pounds and I can lift far more than that but I don't think my husband would like that. We have two daughter, 14 and 16. The 16 y.o is already heavier than her father and I guess she is stronger since she is very much into sports. I think my husband avoid any strength contest with her since I know he likes to be at least the second strongest in the family. For our daughters it has always been very natural for a woman to be stronger than a man.

powerhouse wife
powerhouse wife, I just love your description of your family. It's too bad your husband doesn't appreciate his situation. He should be encouraging his daughters by not avoiding the obvious. Young teenagers, male or female, need encouragement from both their parents.

Wowser
i think older women are generall y more motivated and determined than men of that age and work out more.if you get trapped in a strong womans scissor there is no way out.i believe men are naturally stronger than women, but women catch up due to hard work

welshboy
After a gym membership for three years, I noticed my muscles had become more developed then my husbands. It was this year I decided to wrestle him and found out what I suspected in that I'm stronger. I'm able to pin him in many holds and now have a reserve of strength to use on him once he is held. It's a real thrill when he can't move and I can continue to use my muscles on his body just to hear him. I also have put in some mirrors so he can see our bodies and of course my muscles.

Rebecca
I have known many women over the years that were stronger than many men I know including me. Many years ago my girlfriend's mother beat me badly in armwrestling which was the start to my realization that this is very possible. When I was in my late twenties I went out with a girl at work who was about 20 and had worked as a manager for her high school wrestling team. We wrestled and she pinned me after a couple of minutes. I had her by 70 pounds but she was strong and knew a lot of legitimate wrestling moves.

Charlie
My wife has been going to the gym for more than a year. Last week we wrestled and I found myself in trouble after about five minutes. It just felt like she kept getting stronger until she had me in a hold. She wrapped her legs around mine and got my wrists held so I couldn't move. Much stronger than I thought she was. The second time I ended up facing the ceiling with her legs wrapped around my midsection and arms pulled behind my back. I was unable to get loose again. I'm embarised but amazed at her srength. She has muscles that grew in size too. At least my size but harder. I'm starting a workout of some kind. I'm not lazy and I jog but she is becoming muscular.

Alan
Alan, Good luck on catching up with her. I think it might be too late.

Wowser
I watched my sister in law beat my brother at armwrestling not long ago. I was also shocked by the size of her muscles, her biceps are bigger than the men'sbecause of her gym workouts.

Jenifer
There was a girl at the gym this morning that is half my size but twice as strong as me. I am sure because I saw how much she was curling with her arms and it is much more than I do.

Nathan
younger girls beating boys at wrestling. http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050411-063432-2846r.htm I found this and several others about girls beating boys and taking titles. I had watched a girl beating boys in high school a few days ago and find it hard to forget. She was physically stronger than the boys with a superior musculature.

Carl
When I was 12 or 13 years old I got my younger sister in trouble by telling on her to our folks (parents). She was on a swim team and exercised alot. When the folks were away the next day, she came into my room and got me in a headlock and pulled me into the living room. I had my hands full in a real fight with her and really became afraid when I found out how strong she was. She got me to the floor and for the first time I could see her muscles in her arms and shoulders as she held my wrists and overpowered me. I was straining against her and shaking as I lost to her and she wrapped her legs around my chest and powered into me. I cried when she did this she was so strong. I ended up with both arms held behind my back by her one arm and the other around my neck while she squashed me with her legs. All I could do was take what she was doing to me and was shocked as I felt her muscles pushing into my body, I had no clue before this happened that she might be stronger than me. I could not even move as she worked on me and took out her anger. It was very painful to say the least and her physical strength far more than mine. She sqeezed with her legs until they shook and I could no longer breath and did this many times before she stopped. When she was finished I was finished and I couldn't move at all and just laid there not wanting to look at her but she stood there as I heard her breathing hard in what seemed like ten minutes and walked away. We never told our folks what happened.

Steve
steve, did your sister remain stronger than you or did you ever catch up? did you ever wrestle her again?

jj
jj, I might be stronger now but we live far apart. She is in very good shape but the last time I saw her was late last year. There were several incedents that I recall. A large and long hill near our home when I was 9 or 10. I raced my sister up the grade and lost by a long shot, I blamed it on her bike being lighter. Without hesitation she said "switch bikes" and a few days later I lost again. She was able to do about two times more pull ups on a clothesline poll or push ups. After our fight the first encounter was a challenge by her behind our garage. There was a narrow walkway with a brick wall on one side and the back side of the garage on the other. She made a bet on who would win pressing her softball bat at each other with our backs against the wall. She quickly smashed the bat into my chest, tried again and smashed with the bat however this time she pushed into it with force and pined my arms against the wall pressing her bat into my chest very hard and held it. I remember trying to push my arms off the wall just to get it off my chest. Later it was back to back and pushing with our hands against the walls behind the garage. There were wrestling incidents for about two years. I could never beat her at physical strength.

Steve
Women can surprise a man with strength. My wife had pined me to a point that I couldn't move and still had the strength left to continue in the hold until my muscles tore in my shoulders by pushing my arms behind my back with hers. We haven't wrestled sinse about a year ago. She works out with weights at a gym when I'm at work.

Sid
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050411-063432-2846r.htm (Girl, 10, wins boys' wrestling title) "I like to see all the boys crying and their coaches yelling at them."

Anonymous
There are not enough strong women in England......where are you all hiding....sporty guys love strong females!

Daniel.
My girlfriend beats me at wrestling. I am a bit bigger but that does not help me.

Anonymous
i am aa small male..i can over power any woman i have ever dated. a guy is naturally stronger than 2 women at the same time.

lelgt
Lelgt, i am sure that i could introduce you to some women who would easily overpower you.......

Daniel.
daniel..please do.

lelgt
women can not wrestle down a man. men have too much strength and wrist power.

reality
Reality, Not true.

Wowser
lelgt - where are you from? and where are you living now?

Daniel.
daniel, i live in cleveland ohio..where do you live?

lelgt
Brighton & Hove, England.........unfortunately not too many women in this country are happy to be strong!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel.
Most polls favor women in strength. http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=1044069426

Anonymous
I showed my husband the results of this poll and he argued the fact. We ended up wrestling and he became tired and weakened until I had him pinned. He gave in and admitted the truth after being squeezed for around ten minutes without escaping. He really tried to get out of the hold but couldn't.

Monica
monica..how tall are you? did he try hard in the beginning?

lelgt
Wow - really interesting Monica - what are your respective heights and weights? How'd you get so strong?

Anonymous
I'm 5'6" @ 168 lbs and he is 5'8" and I think 150-160. My husband has had weights for some time that I began using years ago and he only occationaly uses. We also bought a bowflex. I workout for about an hour a day and he hasn't put in the same effort. I suspected that I have become stronger but never tested myself. I've built my muscles up and after our wrestling episode, I had him flex and I put my arm next to his and showed him the big difference now and he was a little embarised! His legs are no match and never have been, I've always had bigger legs. I'm going to wrestle more often now. Last night I flexed in front of him even more and I talked about my strength and wrestling him and I can see it in his face. When I was a 12 year old, I beat some boys my age and older at running, armwrestling, and pullups on the bars in our neighborhood park. After growing up I never ever would test my strength with a man again until now and this brings back some of my younger days. If I can go to a kid's park that has bars with my husband and do pullups, I will!

Monica
From an article I read... Men and women’s motivations for competition are vastly different. There are historical, sociological, instinctual and hormonal reasons for this. Men fight for status of some kind. Women fight to protect. A woman's brain is telling her we cannot afford to lose or the next generation is dead.

Cathy
http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=755954312 AND http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=3241882996 AND http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=1604220219

Anonymous
my roommate has discovered that she is much stronger than me and likes to show it off.It all started one day when we were on the sofa watching telivision opposite. we put our feet together and she easily pushed my legs towards me. Then one day she wanted a ride somewhere and I was on the sofa hungover. She easily lifted me in a cradle position and said i was as light as a fly. I'm an athletic person but only 6' 140 and she's a smoker and drinker, but is 5'7" and 175. She never works out but has alot of muscularity. One day recently when her friend was over she totally embarassed me by challenging me to wrestling. She easily pinned me down on my stomach and was giving me nuggies to the head. I was defenseless. When she let me go I was completely red in the face and in pain. Her friend said that a woman needs to be strong these days, and she flexed and asked if she could be next. She was heavyset at 5'3" and 170 but you could see the muscles, esp. in her legs. I said I was tired, but she tackled me anyways. She picked me up in her arms and said she couldn't believe how light I was. My roommate said to lift him over head and she did. Then she dropped me in this chair and sat on me. She grabbed my arms and I thought they were going to break. She finally got off of me, and asked if I would want to try again. She flexed again and her arm was the size of a softball. unbelievable.

Lost Twice
Hey Lost Twice, how easily did she lift you over her head? Did she press you up overhead like a barbell? or did she lift you by the waist? How long did she hold you up overhead? Thanks

crismoss
anyone here ever get beat up by a woman?

paul
I think this thread is incredible. It's wonderful to see so many strong women telling their stories. I've always believed that a STRONG WOMAN is an EXTREMELY SEXY WOMAN. I can't wait to find mine. Its unfortunate that society has planted the notion in all of us that WOMEN should be the weaker sex. Those of use with a little insight know that this is far from the truth. My wish is for more and more women to show their strength and physical prowess. I for one, welcome it. I'm a 40 year old male and I'm located in Boston, MA. (pumpfit@aol.com). I'd love to find my STRONG LADY. Michael

Michael
Finally a man who gets it! I wish I was closer to Boston :(

Terri
terri, i wish you lived by me.

lelgt
It is very erotic for a woman to be stronger than a man. And pound for pound, women are stronger anyway :-)

Dennis
monica, could beat him up in a real fight?

paul
check this out..women who beat up men http://www.likelike.com/pollcommentary.rhinoceros?poll_id=2408

paul
The Department of Kinesiology and Applied Physiology, at the University of Colorado in Boulder in 2000 found that female muscle had 75% more endurance over male muscle. The study found that women outlasted men by an average of 75 per cent during muscle contractions under a load. But rather than some kind of motivational effect, the study found the difference was due to some feature of the muscles. In studies carried out at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland, for example, 10 male and nine female strength athletes (powerlifters and body-builders) performed 20 maximal squat lifts, with three minutes of recovery between each lift. After the 20 lifts, the fatigued leg muscles of both males and females had lost about 20-24% of their maximal strength. However, various indicators of muscular power favoured the females. For one thing, the force-time curve  an indicator of muscles ability to contract powerfully and quickly  changed negatively by 28% in the males over the course of the workout but dropped by only 19% in the females. Females also recovered from the 20-lift session more quickly. One hour after the workout, female lifters leg muscles could generate about 92% as much force as before the session, whereas male muscles were just 79% as strong. Why was the fatigue greater and recovery slower in males? Part of the problem seemed to be that the male lifters nervous systems became less responsive over the course of the workout. From the first to the 20 lift, activation of leg muscles by nerve cells fell by 20-25% in males but held fairly steady in females. While its not clear why male nerve activation should deteriorate more quickly, it is clear that females lose less of their muscular power during heavy-duty resistance training and seem to recover more rapidly once a tough session is over. (Neuromuscular Fatigue and Recovery in Male and Female Athletes during Heavy Resistance Exercise, International Journal of Sports Medicine, vol. 14(2), pp. 53-59, 1993)

Anonymous
anonymous..you must remember they are weaker..so of course they heal up faster.

lelgt
lelgt, that's so scientific... of course. The weaker you are, the faster you recover. You idiot! Sounds like they're smarter too.

Anonymous
The average man is stronger than the average woman, but, of course, there will always be some very strong women who are stronger than a lot of men. My wife is certainly not stronger than me, but she has mastered enough wrestling techniques to beat me easily and regularly at wrestling. She knows I am stronger than she is, so she enjoys 'turning the tables' as we wrestle.

Mike
anonymous..relax!..just trying to stay revelant. dont have a sissy fit..lol

lelgt
My wife has added twenty pounds of muscle in the last fifteen years. She had started out just doing aerobics to stay in shape, but then she saw her arms getting larger. She began to flex at any opportunity, and she always wanted me to kiss her biceps, and tell how strong she was getting. Now, years later, she is obsessed with bodybuilding. She thinks nothing of walking around town in a sleeveless blouse, and will flex for anyone that asks. Her favorite is to flex for teenage boys that express an interest in her arms. She loves to tell them how much bigger her arms are than theirs, and she loves to have them flex their arm along side hers. She gets so turned on by proving she is bigger and stronger than everyone else, she sometimes comes home and just rapes me! She will force me to worship her muscles, and kiss every inch of her arms. She then spends an hour or two dominating me in bed, recounting how her arms were bigger than some guy's. She just can't get enough of people envying her arms and strength. I do love her dominance, and I really like being put in a choke hold by a strong lady who's telling me how much stronger she is than any guy. I just wish she had found this hobby years before!

Bicep and vein worshipper!
I want this guy's life! It is a dream come true.

Juan
Oh wow! Me too!

Wowser
Bicep and vein worshipper. You've got more stories for us, tell us more.

Anonymous
OK. This is all very unscientific. I voted for women but that is becaue I am 54 and in my age group women seem to be stronger if they are approximately the same height and body type. Even women who do not work out or exercise in any way seem to be stronger than men their age. I do not know if that is true of younger men and women - lets say in the early 20s to late 30s bracket. I just don't know. I do know that women in that age group are working out more and are not afraid of developing strength. Female muscle seems to be quite amazing. It does not look strong but is. It will always fool you. So in my age group a woman should be able to be the superior wrestler (all other things being equal like training in the art of wrestling, physical activity level etc). But outside my age group - I really don't know. I have an experience that says that even in early and mid 20s that some women can defeat a lot of men but most women can not. Now that data is tainted by memory and a small sample set but I put it out here so others can comment on it. BTW there is nothing sexier than a woman physically dominating her man. I want mine to do it. I'm working on that. She is much stronger than she thinks and she is beginning to understand how very erotic I think that is.

Rocks In My Head
Check out my poll: http://likelike.com/poll.php?poll_id=2431

AMBomb
I am a 50 year old married male. About five years ago my wife and I decided to buy a weight set for the basement and work out. Back then I was 5'10 and 140 lbs and she was about the same. Over the years she lifted every day wherease i did it two to three times per week. About a year ago i noticed that she had become quite muscular but i really had not gained any muscle. She said that she used a 25 lbs dumbbell and i was still using 10 lb weight. Lately she has started making comments about the differences in our muscles. I have had to accept it - she is a lot stronger than i am. At this rate the gap will keep widening. Do other middle aged men face the same thing with their wives?

Raymond
Yes Raymond I do. My wife and I are in our mid fourties and we workout together. She has much more endurance and will often continue to pump bumbells while watching TV after a workout in our home gym room while I'm spent and can't do this. After some time at this practice she has become stronger than me and also developed bigger muscles. I've tried competing with her as an 'endurance game' but found myself loosing when muscle failure comes on much sooner than she does and she has built up her muscles faster by doing this every week. We sometimes stand facing each other doing curls with equal weights until you can't continue and I learned about her endurance and facing the fact that she has stronger muscles.

Keith
When I was about ten years old I heard some noise and got up out of bed one night and looked though a wall heater vent into our recreation room and found my parents armwrestling. I was sort of shocked by this and even more so as I watch my mom slowly beat my dad and did so several times. I also noticed that her biceps appeared to be a little larger something I never noticed but I'd never seen her muscles flexed either. I never have forgot what I saw and never said anything about it. I did later see both of them lift and carry a heavy couch and table and again she did have larger muscles. When they lifted it high enough to clear some other furnishings a difference in strength could be seen. Never saw them wrestle or armwrestle after that.

Craig
As a Muscular, hairy armed woman, I wanted to leave a note here to let all you men know that I enjoy all the attention that is paid to me. I'm 27 years old, with blonde hair, and blue eyes. Ever since I was a little girl, boys, men, and even many girls and ladies have asked to touch, and play with my hairy arms. I have never met anyone that was rude or obnoxious about it. They were all just as nice as could be, since it was so special to them. I know full well how some people are just so stimulated by seeing hair on a female's arms. I have had many conversations thru out the years, and trust me; no one should be embarrassed about this harmless little fetish! I always let people touch my arms, and pull on it lightly if they wish to. When I meet a really nice person, and if we are away from other people I'll tell them I like it too, and I'll give them all the time they want. Many ask to kiss my forearms, and that turns me on as well as them. Lesbians seem to really like a strong (I used to do a little bodybuilding), hairy blonde. I get at least one woman a week stop me and ask me about my arms. They always ask to feel the hair, and then ask if I'm bi-sexual (not really interested). They just want to spend time telling me about their fantasies of having a muscular, hairy woman dominate them in bed. If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times. Someday I might take one of them up on it! You know the funny part is that my girlfriends get a kick out of being with me, when a guy will walk right up and compliment me on my hairy arms. Sometimes I think the girlfriends get a bit jealous too. They wish they had some feature that drove men and boys wild. Teenage boys are really fun to talk to. They are so shy and afraid of how I might take it. Little do they know that I love to play along, and feed their fantasy. They'll be complimenting me on how hairy my arms are, and out of nowhere, I ask them to put their arm up next to mine. I'll say something like “look, my arm is much hairier than yours!", and then flex my arm. Then they really are taken aback, a woman harier,AND more muscular than them! I have found that every guy and girl that likes hairy arms, also secretly admires muscles on a woman too. Many want to arm wrestle me, and I have obliged most people who ask. The fun part comes while we are struggling at arm wrestling, they will reach out and play with the long blonde hairs on my forearms. While they are distracted by their sexual desires, I slowly pin their arm! So for any of you who think you are the only ones out there who have a secret fetish for hair, relax. Take it from someone who has become a world class expert on people who like hairy armed women. There are millions of you out in the world. If you are polite, and sweet about it, I'm sure just about any woman will oblige you to some small degree. And if you're sweet and shy, and run into me, just ask, I'll grant just about any request... Which do you want to do? Feel my forearms, run your fingers thru the hair on my arms, or just kiss all the blonde hair all the way up my triceps? Maybe pull the inch long hair on my thighs? Just tell me... Love you all for being so sweet, Debra C. Debra C. Debra Carver

Debra Carver
Jeez Debra, My dream come true! I have always wanted to talk with a woman about her muscles. In the past, most women get snooty about their muscles. Please tell us more about how you beat men so easily at arm wrestling. How tall are you? How much can you bench press? Women really ask you to flex, so they can feel your muscles? How COOL!

pete
Fighting (wrestling included) is about more than just brute strength. A trained female should defeat an untrained male, and vice versa. My wife has learnt a few wrestling techniques and now beats me easily and regularly. She's not stronger than me, but she can pin me with her scissors. I end up absolutely exhausted! It's all about technique, and, to underline her superior technique, she sometimes even forces me to wear her knickers/panties!

Mike
girls cos i got beaten up by a girl 2 years younger than me

dave age 17
I have wrestled my girl friend who shocked me with her physical strength because I could not beat her and found myself in an embarrised position by being overpowered. I was surprised about her muscles. I did not know about her muscles being strong until she wanted to wrestle after we checked out our flexed arms and legs.

Kapos age 16
Kapos, what positions did your girlfriend pin you in when she defeated you? Have you tried armwrestling her?

Barry
She is able to hold her arms against mine and keep them held by the wrist. She has held my legs with hers so that I can not move. She can do this both at the same time. She held me in front of her wall mirror on the floor with her legs from behind after asking me to wrestle her. I can not beat her and she knows this. With her legs holding my mid section she held me in front of the mirror and slowly pulled my arms behind my back so I had to watch myself loosing. I was embarrised and in pain. She is strong enough to hold me pinned there having me watch what she can do all the time demanding that I stop her. She goes to a gym but I didn't realize what she was doing in the gym until she told me while I was pinned. She is 16.

Kapos
My wife has always been stocky. I'm taller but my wife exercises with weights every day. We are both in our early forties and now she is stronger than me! She has large muscles from her workouts and wrestling has tuned out to be no fun. I can't beat her now she's too strong. For the first time she has larger muscles then me. I love her muscles don't get me wrong but hate to have her stronger because I'm the man. I had mentioned that she should tone her muscles but not get them so big. Now she rubs my face in it and wants to wrestle all the time when it's no longer fun for me.

Travis
Kapos, you are in an extremely enviable position. There is nothing wrong with having a strong gf unless she becomes abusive. If you like her muscles, tell her so, but if you don't, then it looks like you are soon going to be looking for a new gf. Enjoy your life and don't lose that girl!

Wowser
Wait a minute Travis, wrestling your wife is no longer fun for you because she is now winning? Are you crazy or just a sexist? You say you love her muscles but you don't want them to be so big because she is stronger than you and can beat you in wrestling and it's no fun being beaten. Well, how do you think SHE felt all of those years when YOU were stronger? Heck, I would love to have a wife like yours. Send her to me! Please!

Wowser
I think that women should not be so strong. It is the man's position to have more strength but I tell my wife this and she disagrees. She spends so much time with weight lifting that it is a concern for me about her becoming stronger now. she shows me that her muscles are bigger than mine and says this is just the start and wants more wrestling knowing she is strong being abl to win always. I show her pictures of nice girls that are toned and she shows me women with muscles that are to large and become to strong from so much exercise. I have now admitted that she and women are stronger because this is what she wants me to say to her. she will enjoy seeing that her muscles continue to become larger than mine because I have'nt as much time to exercise as her but she says no it is her superior body that makes her stronger. I try to beat her but I can't so I will ask her to quit becoming this strong and be more lady like. That's how I feel because I like to play wrestle and win too.

Travis
Travis, I understand your feelings but your wife is living in the 21st Century, not the 19th or even the 20th. I am afaid that she will not stop getting stronger and based on a lot of the research we have heard about, you would not be able to catch up with her even if you started working out. Like I said, I would love to have a wife like yours.

Wowser
Dave age 17. Just because you were beaten-up by a 15 year old girl, you cannot claim that all girls are superior. Maybe it is the fact that you are so insecure with yourself that you have to lump all males in with you. Well, it is not so. Just because you consider yourself weak and inferior doesn't mean the rest of us feel that way. Girls aren't stronger simply becauese you were beaten-up by one. Besides, you probably enjoyed it.

Steve
a woman can not out wrestle a man..this is fantasy crap.

james
james, get real. Just go to the nearest gym, compare some of the women working out hard with some of the smaller men around. Some men are just so outclassed. As many other postings here can show, men are generally stronger due to bigger size and a tradition to build strength. The last 20-25 years have seen women working out to become stronger, we can see women more and more interested in weight lifting, boxing, wrestling. In a couple of decades I am sure that men and women can compete with each other, if you count size rather than sex. But I am not sure men will let us women in, men are just too scared to loose. I have been working out for many years and I can say without boasting that it takes a really big and strong man to lift heavier weights than me and to beat me in a fight. The smaller guys I can take with one hand behind my back.

your worst fantasy come true
sounds very interesting.

lelgt
ywfct, you are so funny. women can not compete with men in strength. you know it and so does everyone else. why do you think women get beat up so much? because they are weaker.

james
ywfct, I would enjoy breaking a fiesty woman like you.After I would be very kind to you. Definatly not during tho.........

A Smaller Man
James, that's where your wrong... http://www.wrestlegirl.com/deanna.htm

Natalie
natalie, i am sure that boy let her win..you know that also. but i will admit..she is very cute..i'm sure he had a hard on..during the match.

james
James, either you have never participated in any competitive sport or you are an idiot! First, NO kid (boy or girl) will willingly lose an organized match, game or whatever and in the case of a boy, he would almost rather die than lose to a girl. The teasing and kidding he will get from all of his friends might possibly drive him out of the sport. A loss in ANY sport, and especially an individual sport, is VERY devastating and quite personal. You cannot get lost in the crowd of football or baseball and even basketball players. Everyone is looking at you and they know that YOU just lost.

Wowser
baloney!! that girl looks like sexy babe!..he lost and probably went out with her. look at her build and his. no doubt in my mind he was stronger than her. but she was sexy..so he was thinking with the wrong head!!! period!

james
i have wrestled a few women from the wb270 site. believe me there are women out there that could kick 98% of all mens but. these women are stronger/faster and have real fighting skills. for 300 bucks they will put a man in his place.i'm sure if one of them walked into a bar..they would be the baddest in that bar..by a mile. these women could probably even out wrestle 2 full size men at 1 time!

barney
BARNEY, YOU LIKE THE BROADS ON THIS BOARD ARE NUTS. MAYBE 1 OUT OF A MILLION WOMEN ARE STRONGER THAN 1/2 THE MEN. BIG DEAL. THE STRONGER SEX IN WRESTLING OR FIGHTING IS MALE..PERIOD.

PAUL
paul, get real..i know several women that could mop the floor with you. women workout now!

jane
I started to play wrestle my girlfriend last night and jumped on top of her grabing her wrists. She's been going to a gym for awhile. I was in for a big surprise, she was so strong that I couldn't control her arms or keep them on the floor. Plus I was shocked to see these big muscles in her arms. I was slowly over powered as she stretched my arms open until I couldn't hold myself up. soon as that happened she got a hold my my wrists and it was all over. The real shock was when she was able to hold me with her legs and pull my arms above my head with her arms and stretch me out like that until I couldn't even move. I was still on top but she beat me and had me pinned.

Doug
So, Doug, how did you feel about that? did you enjoy? What happened next?

Rob
I dunno about you, but Tracy Pollen could really kick Michael J Fox`s ass.

Even though he has been afflicted with parkinsons as of late, I think she was always stronger.


Anonymous
Rob, we both are fairly independent and I could see that she was getting in shape and filled out solid. I've thought of myself as in good shape too until this happened. It's not like every time we were together she'd flex or anything. When we wrestled I realized that she was more muscular than me right away and then her strength was overwheling me. It was embarising and enjoyable at the same time. I didn't believe that a woman could be that strong.

Doug
Thanks Doug, I am really jealous! Dont be embarrassed, praise her and be proud of her for what she has accomplished and be sure she knows you enjoy her greater strength.

Rob
Are the women who are stronger than me? Check out my new poll! http://www.likelike.com/poll/2467

Gary
OOPS typo! Are there women who are stronger than me? Check out my new poll! http://www.likelike.com/poll/2467

Gary
Don’t want to offend anybody. But I cant understand what you are talking about. At the age of 40 I have never seen a woman beating a man in armwrestling or overpowering a man in a physical way. At 1.73 I am not the biggest man on earth and I know a lot woman being taller than me, but they are not stronger than me. I think any story at this page of a woman defeating a man is fantasy. Sure, a bodybuilding woman can be stronger than a weak male. But anything like this is unusual. In normal live the woman has about 60% of male body-strength.

non-fiction
non-fiction, I am 53 years old and have seen women beating men at armwrestling matches many, many times. It started in school when some of the more athletic girls were way stronger than the boys in our class. My first date was a swimmer and I didn't have a chance against her when it came to wrestling and armwrestling. I am about your size, weighing 70 kgs to my 173 cm. In Norway where I live many girls and women are bigger than that. My best friend is married to a woman that is rather big, she can beat us both armwrestling. His daughter was a gymnast when she was in her teens and she could beat her mother at armwrestling meaning she was stronger than both me and my friend (we never armwrestled his daughter). I have been to parties where men and women have armwrestled and even if most men could take the majority of women there has always been a couple of women that could beat many of the men. I come from an athletic background and I consider myself at least as strong as the average man. Many of my friends have an athletic background as well and still keep themselves in good shape. The woman I am living with right now is a bit bigger than me, I have difficulties taking her down when we armwrestle right handed but with her left she can destroy me (she is a leftie). I think non-fiction that many men have the same experience as you, where women either are weaker than men or where they hide their strength. If you live in an environment where most people have competed in different kinds of sports you know that they are giving their best. And why couldn't a woman our size that works out hard be as strong or stronger than us? It is all about genetics and since it has been proven many times lately that women's muscles are as strong or even stronger than men's (talking about the same muscles the same size) I think you have just been unlucky (or lucky?) not to come across any strong women.

Gard
gard..can she beat you up?

paul
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dennismoore
Gard, it has been proven in many ways that women do have stronger muscles when measured on a equal volume basis. For example, female muscle will hold a contraction against a load on average 75% longer in time. Female muscle has a higher percent of muscle fiber that actually contracts against a load to produce power. In general male muscle will only reach about 80% fiber contraction while female muscle is is well above 90%. Both sexes have on average the same fast twitch/slow twitch muscle fiber ratio but women do have better blood flow into the muscle and women has more flexable muscles in that they can stretch the muscle farther before it even hurts, not to mention torn muscles. We now know that women can build their muscles up and often match the size of average men. If she is as large as the man she is armwrestling or wrestling, she may have an advantage in muscular strength simply for those reasons I just gave. Fact is that new research is proving this and very little understanding of female strength potental or research was even available until very recently.

Anonymous
NonFiction, If a strong women doesn't think that you can handle her being stronger, she won't show all her strength. Let a very fit women know that you like women who are strong and you might get the surprise of your life. Good luck!

Walt
Hey ladies...any suggestions on how I can get my wife to be a better match when it comes to bedroom wrestling? She likes to try, but she is just so passive. She's 5ft 8 and 150lbs, while I'm 6ft tall and 180lbs. I'm narrow shouldered and rather slender, while she's more broad-shouldered and big-boned for a woman. We're both 32. She's been working out for several years, but she's still MUCH weaker than me. HELP!!!!

Dave P
Dave, Why don't you let her win, once in awhile. She might get excited and decide to work out a bit harder.

Mike
Dave, you say your wife 'likes to try' wrestling with you. Perhaps you could put her in touch via Internet with some amateur (or even professional) lady wrestlers who can teach her a few techniques (holds/locks/scissors etc.) to try out on you. Beware, however, as she might then start to dominate you!

Michael
Anonymous - There are no facts to support your erroneous claim that women are physically superior to men. You women or women-lovers out there can pretend that women are dominant but they never will be. I love muscular women but the only reason I like them is because they are so rare and hard to meet. If they were everywhere I'd probably prefer a more "traditional" woman. I do applaud any woman who wants to physically develop herself and she could be stronger than the weakest man but that's about all. If women are so strong how come (almost?) all the world records are held by a man. It's still a man's world and if you don't believe it, I'll be happy to represent an average man and take on any woman in wrestling. I bet I won't get any takers!!!

Jacob
Didn't think so.

Jacob
I am really sick of pervert guys purporting the MYTH that women are some how superior guys. That's all it is, a myth. Even an out of shape guy could beat the most in shape woman, any day of the week, any time. Any guy who gets "beat" by his wife or girlfiend isn't trying.

Dick
And we're tired of guys like you who have never tried telling us what it's like. You've never been there, all you've got is some notion in your head. All together in unison everyone:Some girls, are stronger than some guys! Your a benchwarmer, Dick

Anonymous
She still remembers what a father told his son before a match with Whitney. "I'll give you $5 if you beat her, $10 if you pin her and $20 if you make her cry," he said. Sharon didn't say a word. "Whitney went out there and pinned him and the boy started crying," Sharon Conder said. "I turned to the man and said, 'I'll take that $20, because my daughter just made your son cry.' " READ MORE HERE DICK... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002808372_ringer16.html

Anonymous
Anonymous - You're a little wierd and a little bit too feminist for me. But I'll bet you'd be a good f--k.

Well Hung
I am making an open invitation to strong wives/girlfriends to tell their stories and for the husbands/boyfriends to respond. I am researching for a possible feature documentary on the way women are becoming physically stronger and fitter and being more the dominant partner. I need couples or singles to be honest and open about their relationships and possibly appear on film recounting their stories. Would be nice to hear from any interested parties. I and the film company are based in the UK but will look to source any stories or experiences in Europe, USA or elsewhere. My email address is dflexer01@hotmail.com - look forward to hearing from anyone with an interesting story. Thank you for your attention.

Daniel uk (21/04/06)
Girl wrestling boy: http://media.putfile.com/Case-wrestling-a-girl

Anonymous
SHE IS SO MUCH STRONGER THAN THE BOY! She thrashes him and can lift his body weight with ease! It would not surprise me if she could lift him overhead.

Lynn
That girl in the video is a dream come true! My god she picks him up so easily, and just humiliates him! She must be twice as strong as the boy, judging how easily beats him. He must be embarrassed beyond control. She is just too strong, and too sexy to believe!! I want to wrestle her!!!!

David D.
physical strength in wrestling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tePzij0oQOA

Anonymous
Females are rarely ever the stronger sex! FACT

Anonymous
That boxing match was won due to technique and skill, not strength. She was clearly a more skilled wrestler than he is.

Anonymous
She was more skilled, but she was also at least as strong as him.

Anonymous
Here's a guy who would have to workout for years to be as strong as her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyTH9iYXS3I

Cheryl D
Did anyone happen to save that youtube video? It's been deleted.

Anonymous
Even though women are generally much smaller than men, I think they are, by nature, much better fighters than men. They have much more stamina. They are much more agile. They have better balance and flexibillity. They have much faster reflexes. They also think faster than men. I also think it's true that women are genetically much stronger than men pound per pound. This is why a woman's smaller size may ultimately be an advantage. Stronger muscle on a smaller, lighter frame (a woman's body) makes for a much better athelete than weaker, less efficient muscle on a clumsy, larger frame (a man's body). As women develop more and more of their limitless potential, they will simply mop the floor with men.

Jon
I have always had stronger and more muscular legs than my husband and now my upper body is stronger. We have had our own home gym equipment for a little over two years and I have gradually become stronger compared to him. We have finally started to wrestle each other. I can now pin his legs with mine and overpower his upper body to the point of being able to push his arms behind his back with my arm, shoulder, and chest muscles. I've been doing this to him several times during wrestling from different holds. It's hard and takes a little time and endurance but slowly he looses and I force his arms back. I now discovered that while crasping hands and standing, I've been able to stretch his arms out and actually push him back until his arms start to go back. At that point I can pull them in behind his back until he is held and I can lower him down and put his head in my thighs all the time with his arms pinned behind his back! The roughest hold I've put him in is like this and lock my arms around his up higher at the elbos and pull them together while I hold his head pulling his arms tight behind his back and start lifting, squat down and bring him to the floor pinned nearly upside down and begging my to quit. I can do almost anything to him because of the difference in our strength now.

Kellie
Kellie, have you played Mercy with him yet? It is obvious that you could beat him but it just gives you another way to put him down. I had a woman friend that I could just beat at armwrestling but she could beat me at Mercy and from there, take me down and keep me down. I sure envy your husband.

Wowser
Kellie, if a husband would do that to his wife, that would be severe wife-beating. More evidence of the unfair double-standard against men. And I don't understand why your husband does not seek divorce, I certainly would!!

Curious1
Kellie, what are your respective heights and weights?

Anonymous
Curious1, because he likes it?

Anonymous
Police Hunt 4 Women In Beating Death Of Bingo Winner April 11, 2006 www.local6.com/news/8608871/detail.html Police in Toronto are searching for four women suspected of beating a man to death over a $1,000 jackpot he had just won in a bingo hall, according to Local 6 News. Police said Yousif Youkhana, 58, was walking outside the Country Bingo Hall over the weekend with his $1,000 winnings when he was approached by the women. When Youkhana refused to hand over the jackpot, the women kicked and punched him, the report said. Witnesses said the man stumbled back into the bingo hall after the attack and later died from his injuries. The women fled on foot after the beating, according to witnesses.

curious1
August 1, 2006

Anonymous
Who is the stonger sex in wrestling? Some years ago I would have laughed at that question, I sincerely believed that almost all men could beat almost all women in most physical contests. Now I know better. My last three girlfriends have all been able to pin me. Two of them were weaker than me in their upper bodies but they were able to control me with their legs and there was just nothing I could do about it. The first time I wrestled a woman as an adult I was pinned in seconds! And the woman that did it was 30 lbs lighter than me and perhaps 2 inches shorter. I was very embarassed and came up with excuses but during the 3 years we were together I was never close to pin her. The next girlfriend was totally unexperienced when it came to wrestling, I could take her down in less then 15 seconds when we armwrestled but wrestle her was something completely different. It all came natural to her, how to use her strong legs, the advantage of being more lith than me and another big advantage was that she could go on forever with the matches while I got tired after a couple of minutes. I think I pinned her perhaps 3 out of 25 times. I started to check the internet for people with similar experiences. Obviously a lot of men like to be pinned by women and perhaps don't give their best when it comes down to a tussle but I also came across men that just like me really did their best and anyway lost to their girlfriends/wives. My current girlfriend is not only stronger in her legs and hips and more limber than me, she is stronger in her upper body as well. Without my eariler experiences I could never be with a girl that is that much stronger but now I really don't mind. I do my very best when we wrestle, I am not weak by any means, she is just stronger. We have a lot of fun and by the way, the answer to the question is, Women are stronger then men when it comes to wrestling.

Robert, 32
Robert 32, what country or state do live in? Las Vegas?

Anonymous
robert, are you crippled?

Anonymous
I just love these anonymous guys comments! After a real tussle with my girlfriend I certainly feel crippled, I just can't stop her from heaving her way with me, something that I really don't mind (anymore). To the other anonymous I can say that I live in Central Europe.

Robert, 32
If there was a family where the two 90-year-old grandmothers looked prettier than their 18-year-old granddaughters, would that be normal? Would that be comparable to women who are stronger than their husbands, since both situations are reversals of normalcy? Would the granddaughters be humiliated if 18-year-old boys told them that their grandmothers are twice as pretty as they are, and would that humiliation be comparable to men who have half the strength of their wives?

Samurai Psychiatrist
Your comparison is ludicrous. By the typical standard of beauty, which values youth, it would be impossible for any 90 year old woman to match someone 50-60-70 years younger unless the girl was severely deformed, etc. On the other hand it is not that unusual for a healthy female to be or to become stronger than some males.

commonsense
The whole thread is a joke. Not to disrespect women, but if you look at a broad spectrum of wrestling results, it is clear that the best men are better than the best women. Sure, some girls in high school may be able to take a state title in a state where wrestling is a small sport. But by college, even the best women cannot compete with decent guys. There was a comment about "Chyna" earlier. She's not a real wrestler. Even a good male light weight (126 pound) Division 1 wrestler would likely beat her. But I will add that a good female college wrestler would probably also mop her up if they were close to the same weight. Will I ever wrestle my wife? No. She's 90 pounds and I'm 225. I wrestled Division 1 in college at 189 pounds and the heavy weight weight class. At 35 years old, I'm in better shape now than I was then. My resting pulse is 42 bpm, and if my wife and I go run or cycle, her HR is up to 160 when mine is at 115 (I can hit over 200 pbm when working hard). I commend the women of this world who have become more assertive and want to compete on an equal playing field with men. And I agree that there really isn't a big difference between male and female physical performance on a percentage basis. I will also add, that I am embarrased by the male representation on this forum. It does seem that more women are concious about their health than are men these days. But given equal training, nutrition etc. the average (and I emphasize that word) will beat the average women in this sport. What we have in this forum, are examples of average or in some cases, above average women, and men that are obviously way below average. Remember, anyone who claims that all women, or all men, are better is an idiot and simply hasn't looked at the facts. The best women in any physical activity can beat 99 percent of men in that activity. This isn't new. It has always been that way. But the best men in a given physical activity can be 100% of women (perhaps there is some obscure exception that I don't knwo about). Sorry, this is what the record shows, and wrestling is no exception.

A real wrestler
New Poll: THE WAR AGAINST BOYS www.likelike.com/poll.php?poll_id=2603

Anonymous
What is the earliest age at which athletically active girls can have beautiful muscular legs that men like: (1) Age 18 (2) Age 21 (3) Age 25 (4) Age 30.

MiniPoll
You all have no clue to what you all are saying. I am a girl and know most of the guys are difficult to beat. What comes out in the media is only the exception. Men have ruled for centuries and now we are are questioning their strength when 60% of the women dont even have the ability to come out of their houses and veils without permission of their men. Even in developed countries the law and order is maintained by men to enable women to voice their opinion. We have seen in incidents in places like New Orleans where the women suffered the most when chaos prevailed. I find most of the women participating in this poll stupid if they think they have got men in control and that too physically. We have physically evolved because our fathers and grand fathers protected us and created an environment where we can speak and move around peacefully. Most of the guys are tamed because of women rights. Please hope that we do not get back to chaos as we women will suffer the most. Men are definitely agressive. The more you subdue their aggression, the more severe it will be when it comes out. Dont cry victory ladies - We have miles to go.

Clara
What about young ladies walking down the street, flaunting their bare legs, showing off their tight hard leg muscles? Should men gaze at them, or look away?

High School Graduate
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Joe B
I am a man. I ** DO NOT ** want to be beat up, punched out, out-muscled or out-wrestled by a woman, and I DO NOT understand the men who consider these things to be desirable.

High School Graduate
Have any men been distracted by beautiful women at weddings? Women at weddings show lots of skin where I live.

Just Curious
November 27, 2006

Anonymous


bob
I'm not so sure.......If this was indeed the case, I would see genuine videos on Youtube of women beating guys in armwrestling, the only ones I do see are super heavyweight body builders against tiny little men. If you guys are claiming this stuff to be true, then where are the videos, IF your getting beat legitimately by a female, then put the videos on Youtube....but I am yet to see it so I don't believe it

arnie
January 17, 2007

Anonymous
My wife can definitely beat me. She is 5'8'' with strong, muscular legs from Tae Kwon Do training. She coule win by trapping my waist between her thighs and squeezing with those well-developed muscles, or by using one of her high, powerful martial arts kicks. My wife is awesome.

James
James, I am grateful that I am not married to your wife!

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Anonymous
You guys are in fantasy land. Its possible for a body builder to beat an untrained guy yes, no suprise. But unless a guy is a week ass 110 pound weakling, there is no way an average girl can beat him. I know I'm 5'4 138 low body fat, and I armwrestled women at the gym 6' tall they work out all the time, I still one easily. All the videos on youtube are either fake, or the guys give in, or are weak as

arnie
Yo Steve that was the hottest thing I ever heard! That so turned me on! I only wish she did that to me! (in respense to: "When I was 12 or 13 years old I got my younger sister in trouble by telling on her to our folks (parents). She was on a swim team and exercised alot. When the folks were away the next day, she came into my room and got me in a headlock and pulled me into the living room. I had my hands full in a real fight with her and really became afraid when I found out how strong she was. She got me to the floor and for the first time I could see her muscles in her arms and shoulders as she held my wrists and overpowered me. I was straining against her and shaking as I lost to her and she wrapped her legs around my chest and powered into me. I cried when she did this she was so strong. I ended up with both arms held behind my back by her one arm and the other around my neck while she squashed me with her legs. All I could do was take what she was doing to me and was shocked as I felt her muscles pushing into my body, I had no clue before this happened that she might be stronger than me. I could not even move as she worked on me and took out her anger. It was very painful to say the least and her physical strength far more than mine. She sqeezed with her legs until they shook and I could no longer breath and did this many times before she stopped. When she was finished I was finished and I couldn't move at all and just laid there not wanting to look at her but she stood there as I heard her breathing hard in what seemed like ten minutes and walked away. We never told our folks what happened. Steve

Anonymous
Has anyone seen the episode of THE SIMPSONS where Homer Simpson's wife becomes a bodybuilder? I saw that episode twice, the second time around I noticed that the two nastiest scenes were edited out. The first deleted scene was when Mrs. Simpson is about to break a man's back. The second deleted scene was when she made the implied threat of violence if her husband failed to give her sex immediately.

Q2
When I was in school I saw a girl pin a boy in a gym class wrestling match, and immediately realized that I have a fetish for wrestling women. I'm lucky that I'm relatively small, 5'7" and 140 pounds, so an athletic woman who is aggressive can often give me a run for my money. I don't care whether I win or lose, but get turned on by a really close match that see-saws back and forth until a victor eventually emerges. Perhaps it's the uncertainity that excites me, coupled with the possibility of being beaten by a woman in a combat sport where the loser ends up totally helpless. Nothing is a turn-on like a competitive, strong intelligent woman who just MAY be my physical and intellectual superior.

Anonymous
you guys are just dreaming,the day that a granny over 50 beat me at armwrestle,i will kill myself uhauhahua

Anonymous
If every one is right then how come there are no women that are in the top feilds of what ever they do aka the mens side and if they are like in golf and nascar they dont even come close to compeating..... men rule

male
I can't believe that most women can beat most men in any strength or endurance contest. I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble - including anonymous - but women are inferior to men physically, mentally and emotionally. Any woman who thinks that she could compete with a real man ought to try it and just do it instead of talk about it. I'm game -- are you?

Stronger than you
The Department of Kinesiology and Applied Physiology, at the University of Colorado in Boulder in 2000 found that female muscle had 75% more endurance over male muscle. The study found that women outlasted men by an average of 75 per cent during muscle contractions under a load. But rather than some kind of motivational effect, the study found the difference was due to some feature of the muscles. In studies carried out at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland, for example, 10 male and nine female strength athletes (powerlifters and body-builders) performed 20 maximal squat lifts, with three minutes of recovery between each lift. After the 20 lifts, the fatigued leg muscles of both males and females had lost about 20-24% of their maximal strength. However, various indicators of muscular power favoured the females. For one thing, the force-time curve  an indicator of muscles ability to contract powerfully and quickly  changed negatively by 28% in the males over the course of the workout but dropped by only 19% in the females. Females also recovered from the 20-lift session more quickly. One hour after the workout, female lifters leg muscles could generate about 92% as much force as before the session, whereas male muscles were just 79% as strong. Why was the fatigue greater and recovery slower in males? Part of the problem seemed to be that the male lifters nervous systems became less responsive over the course of the workout. From the first to the 20 lift, activation of leg muscles by nerve cells fell by 20-25% in males but held fairly steady in females. While its not clear why male nerve activation should deteriorate more quickly, it is clear that females lose less of their muscular power during heavy-duty resistance training and seem to recover more rapidly once a tough session is over. (Neuromuscular Fatigue and Recovery in Male and Female Athletes during Heavy Resistance Exercise, International Journal of Sports Medicine, vol. 14(2), pp. 53-59, 1993)

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I have wrestled many women in my life - women of many shapes, sizes, and levels of strength and skill - and have defeated all of them easily, while simultaneously enjoying myself immensely. Most of you people (male as well as female) are evidently living in a fantasy world, which you are indubitably enjoying. I would be happy to wrestle any woman on this website who accepts my challenge.

STEVEN
I have wrestled many women in my life - women of many shapes, sizes, and levels of strength and skill - and have defeated all of them easily, while simultaneously enjoying myself immensely. Most of you people (male as well as female) are evidently living in a fantasy world, which you are indubitably enjoying. I would be happy to wrestle any woman on this website who accepts my challenge.

STEVEN
I have wrestled many women in my life - women of many shapes, sizes, and levels of strength and skill - and have defeated all of them easily, while simultaneously enjoying myself immensely. Most of you people (male as well as female) are evidently living in a fantasy world, which you are indubitably enjoying. I would be happy to wrestle any woman on this website who accepts my challenge.

STEVEN
STEVEN, I hope you wrestle better than you post. In general I think men are better wrestled for two reasons, they are bigger and more experienced. But take a man and a woman of similar build and experience. My money is than on the woman, just because she is more likely to have better endurance and she is probably more limber.

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Robin Norwood wrote "Women Who Love Too Much." Someone should write "Women Who Lift Too Much."

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Where did this discussion go? Why has it reached a dead end? Where are the female comments claiming to be superior to men? Sounds like penis envy to me.

Dick
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Not an MCP
Im a teenager and have been beaten up by girls my whole life. When i was little my next door neighbor was a year younger than me but always bigger than me. She used to sit on my chest and make me kiss her muscles. Then when we got a little older she would wrap her legs around my head, then she would sit on my face, and my junior year in high school she would push my face into her boobs and hold me there for as long as she wanted. Then when i moved away to college i shared a room with another girl who slightly bigger than me in her arms and legs and we were good friends but one day after she got back from working out at the gym she decided she was going to beat me up so she told me to fight her i said no and she pushed me on to our couch. So she started to make fun of me and call me weak and a pussy for not fighting her. So i stood up and she picked me up and dropped me on the floor. She sat on my chest and put me in several holds. She finished by wrapping my arm around my neck and nearly made me pass out. She then left and came back with her makeup and put it all over my face. I tried to stop her a couple times but was so tired and she could easily outpower me. Then she picked me up and walked me down to a convienant store and made me buy her tampons and other girl things. But then several nights later she had one of her friends over who was a female wrestler and she wrestled me to the ground and sat on me. They took turns beating me up all night. After that she only wrestled me on occasion always beating me but i put a lot of time in at the gym and really gave her a fight. But then i graduated and am married to a woman who i can easily beat up in our play wrestling matches.

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Women are stronger if they're built like Chyna. Chyna is half man(inside). She uses what nature accidently gave her, extra testosterone. Her and other girls like her that's wrestling/ boxing dudes are setting the masses of females off to fight and beat up men. Physically men are stronger on avg. The mental game made be different cause women have to have the brain power for two people(kid is one).

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