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Welcome to Mixed Wrestling - WHO IS THE STRONGER SEX Forum. I look forward to hearing from ALL of YOU! pumpfit@aol.com Well i am game - am 5ft 11ins & 85 kilos approx - very sporty and reasonably fit guy with average strength. Would love to chat to any naturally and physically strong ladies out there. Have had a couple of mixed wrestling instances which i will relate later. Daniel (uk)Aug 29 2005 12:55pm I see that people are taking the poll which is fantastic. BUT, I'd like to hear why people feel the way they do? Personal experiences, etc . . . Pumpfit/MichaelAug 31 2005 4:52am I'll chime in. Women are definitely the stronger sex. Match a competitively trained woman againt a competitively trained man and she'll kick his butt every time. Fact! SusanSep 06 2005 9:05am There is no doubt women have become the stronger sex, physically and otherwise. MattSep 06 2005 9:11am I believe that men are the stronger sex and always will be. Please, be real! JohnathanSep 06 2005 9:13am Typical statement coming from a man. There are many women out there that can more than handle themselves. I'm highly skilled in the martial arts, restraint techniques, weight training, etc . . . I've physically beaten many men of the same size, weight and strength. Wake up and smell the coffee Johnathan. MelissaSep 06 2005 3:07pm WOMEN! JulieSep 07 2005 4:00am Women are by the far the stronger sex. Read all the pertinent studies. Proof is in the pudding. HaleySep 08 2005 5:18am Women of course we because we don't have the weakness and vulnerability of balls between our legs!!!! Kick ass KarenSep 09 2005 8:52am LOL, Very well said Karen! Pumpfit/MichaelSep 09 2005 8:21pm Your not serious, correct? Men are by far the stronger sex. Women need to keep their aprons on and stay in the kitchen. HankSep 12 2005 8:39am You ignorant slob. If you were my man Hank I'd show you what a woman can do. You'd be submitting to me over and over again. SarahSep 12 2005 8:41am I would like to keep my apron on, bend you over my knee and spank you in the kitchen Hank. I am sure you are weak as a kitten. The HousewifeSep 12 2005 2:50pm I'll be your man Sarah Expectant maleSep 13 2005 9:01am I use an apron and love my kitchen but I also have a weight room that I use five days a week. My muscles are bigger than my husband's and when I'm done in the kitchen I aften use those muscles on my husband. I wrestle him and he doesn't make me do anything but I can make him submit to my strength or do the dishes. I prefer to make him please me and listen to him when I out muscle his thin body. I spend more time in the weight room than the kitchen. AnonymousSep 14 2005 8:28pm Great story Anonymous. Now thats what I want to hear. Pumpfit/MichaelSep 15 2005 4:17am I can't believe the results of this pole. Are you people kidding me? Serious? Brain dead? Men are stronger than women by far. Its not even a debate. Not to sound like an alpha male, but I honestly can't imagine any women physically being able to take me. RonSep 15 2005 4:22am Ron, You would be very surprised. There are more and more women out there (like myself) that train extremely hard in many disciplines. Martial Arts, Weight Training, BJJ, Judo. We are highly skilled technicians and take our craft seriously. You don't want to take us lightly. I can remember a particular instance last year where a young man (approximately 25 years of age) first started training with weights and was beginning to get his feet wet in the martial arts. At the facility I train in. He was brash, c*cky, you know the type. A WOMAN CAN'T KEEP UP OR DEFEAT ME. Well, my instructor purposely asked me to train along side this individual. I knew my instuctors motive. He wanted this young man to be schooled by a more experience woman (ME). I'm 44 years old and in phenomenal shape. The day came. The gyms young hot shot was flapping his yap until I had positively heard enough. I asked him if he was up for training/grappling with me to practice some earlier maneuvers we went over in class. He was all to eager. I taught the young man a lesson that he will not soon forget. I taunted him as his limp body withered beneath mine. Gasping for breath and fighting for his survival. I'm not into hurting an individual. Not my style. I did teach the young man that a woman can be strong, sexy and a certain match for any male opponent. Great forum Pumpfit/Michael. Thanks for allowing me my 2 cents. KathySep 19 2005 5:11am Wow, I love your story Kathy. I'm not sure if thats a lucky or sad young man, lol Pumpfit/MichaelSep 19 2005 5:12am At that point in time he was an extremely sad one! KathySep 19 2005 8:06am Thanks for emailing me at my AOL address Kathy. It was nice chatting with you. Michael Pumpfit/MichaelSep 19 2005 8:07am That's a great story Kathy. But men are still the stronger sex overall. No question about it! SteveSep 20 2005 5:18am Come on everyone! Love to hear those stories! Pumpfit/MichaelSep 21 2005 1:19am All you men that think women don't possess the expertise, skill and strength to physically dominate you, guess again. You guys must be living in a cave. CharlieSep 21 2005 9:12am Pound for pound women are stronger than men. Ask my husband. We wrestle routinely as an integral part of our sexual intimacy. I just love looking into his eyes as I have him pinned beneath my muscular physique. Unable to move and wiggle himself free. He tell me and his friends that theres nothing like being taken sexually and physically by a dominant female. HeatherSep 22 2005 4:19am I love this topic. I'll let you in on a little secret guys. There are some extremely tough women out there these days. Don't fool yourselves. They skillfully trained and work out just as hard as any man. I speak from experience. I used to be a nieve man once until I accepted a challenge from a woman that was way out of my league physically. See kicked my A**. She dominated me from start and finish and didn't even break a sweat. I remember her asking at one point if I was ready to start yet. How humiliating! Great forum. Thanks Pumpfit/Michael GregSep 22 2005 6:05am Great story Greg. Glad to see that some men realize the strength of a woman. CarrieSep 24 2005 11:08am I feel sure the average man is stronger than the average woman, but, of course, there will always be some very strong women who are stronger than a lot of men. My wife certainly isn't stronger than me, but she has mastered a few wrestling techniques and can pin me in some very embarrassing positions. Sometimes, she even forces me to agree to do something before she will release me, so, for example, I sometimes end up wearing her knickers/panties!! MikeSep 24 2005 2:16pm Never underestimate the strength of a woman! AllisonSep 26 2005 8:13am Never underestimate a man's will to cheat and beat you however he can. MarcosSep 26 2005 9:44am Let me tell all of you about a mixed wrestling experience I had approximately 1 year ago. Her name was Linda and what an absolutely dynamo. Linda works out at the same gym that I do and has to one of the most physically fit women that I've ever seen. Gorgeous, lean, strong and mentally determined. Linda definately draws attention. 5'6", 145lbs., SOLID. Word around the gym had it that Linda loved to mix wrestle but was very selective about whom she decided to grapple with. I had always been a little nieve in ways of the power of a woman and had always wished for quite some time that I would be Linda's next match. How do I get her to notice me? Do I know anyone that knows her? Do I strike up a conversation? One day I was going about my routine and Linda was also in the gym for her daily workout. She was putting herself through the paces of a grueling leg workout. Suddenly she calls out to me and asks for some assistance. Could I spot her while she attempted her next set of squats. There was 315lbs. on the bar and Linda gave me instructions on how and where to position myself in case she needed my help. Fat chance! 10 pretty easy reps with her ass pretty much hitting the floor. Linda thanked me for the spot and said that was it for her. Some last minute work on the mats and she was done for the day. Nieve, I said "more leg work"? "Mats"? Linda explained that she enjoyed wrestling and was going to use the mats to practice some grappling moves and call it a day. "Would you like to join me she asked." "Its pretty grueling." All to eager to please I began to follow Linda to the mat room. Once inside Linda closed the room door and began to explain what an extremely difficult discipline that wrestling really is and how shes been training at it for many years. I responded by telling Linda that I had wrestled some in my High School and College days and had a pretty good grasp for it. She did the eyes roll back in the head routine and said, "OH REALLY!" "Would you like to wrestle with me? I have to warn you that I'm really good." I asked Linda if she was truly up for a match and if she really thought keeping up with me was possible. "NO PROBLEM" she said. Before I knew it Linda physically overtook me and had me in a grapevine. Strong legs maneuvering me at will and upper body controlling and pinning me to the mat. I honestly couldn't move. Linda gazing down into my eyes as her ripped body had full control. "Can I start yet?" she asked me. With that little verbal jab I began to struggle underneath her trying to set myself free. Linda only applied more pressure and let me know immediately who was in control and who was boss. "I told you I was good!" she exclaimed. "I'm just warming up." With that said Linda slid up my chest, tucked my head high up into her crotch and put me into the most excruciating head scissor I ever could have fathomed. I was right where she wanted me. Arms trapped, body lifeless and my head and eyes staring up at her. "Sure you've done this before?" she asked. Linda slowing began to apply more pressure. It felt like to 45lb. steel plates up against the sides of my head. I had been hustled. When I didn't think it was possible Linda turned up the pressure even more. I had no choice but to tap out! "Not yet my little gym slave." Linda loosened her hold just a little bit but my body was still numb with pain. "Enough!" I exclaimed. "Hardly enough!" Linda said back. "Its time for lights out." She then squeezed with everything she had. It was LIGHTS OUT! The next thing I knew the gym owner was slapping me across the face in an attempt to get me to come around. I had just had my ass handed to me! I still see Linda in the gym and to this day nothing is ever spoken of that fateful day. The only gesture made when I glance Linda's way is a tap to each thigh! Jake (Whipping Boy)Sep 27 2005 6:56am Sounds like you learned a valuable lesson Jake? If you think Linda beat you bad, think again! I would have make you submit to me for hours. OliviaSep 27 2005 7:26am Jake, it sounds as if you more than met your match in Linda, who knocked you out cold. I hope you have recovered from this defeat, but I guess you now treat female athletes and wrestlers with every respect? Do you have any idea how long you were out cold? MikeSep 27 2005 9:05am I think I was out for atleast a minute and a half . . . JakeSep 27 2005 10:06am Thanks for the info Jake. I asked the question because my own wife is expanding her range of 'scissors techniques' and I noticed recently (with some trepidation!) that the wrestling booklet of scissors techniques which she is studying includes a 'knockout' (sleeper) scissors. I hope she doesn't want to try it out on me!! MikeSep 27 2005 1:43pm Yes you do! Who are you fooling, lolol JakeSep 27 2005 2:23pm Jake, knockout scissors sound dangerous to me! I meant what I said! MikeSep 28 2005 2:08am She can try it on me! JakeSep 28 2005 5:15am I'm a woman who has been trained in many disciplines. BJJ, Judo, Kickboxing, Martial Arts (various disciplines), Combat, etc. NO PROBLEM kicking a mans butt. I've surprised many a man who underestimated the explosiveness I possess. A quick word to doubting men all over. DON'T! There's many women out there that can punish you physically and not even break a sweat. TRUST ME! IreneSep 29 2005 4:53am Looks like the ladies are running away with the poll voting. And the stories! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 02 2005 1:11pm Men are without question the stronger, more physical, dominating sex. Anyone that thinks otherwise is completely off their rocker. NigelOct 03 2005 6:01am I haven't met to many men that can keep up with me physically. I've dominated many men in feats of strengh bringing them to the point of humiliation. Nigel is an idiot. RhondaOct 05 2005 4:09am Ditto Rhonda . . . I've also brought men to tears. The gap is closing between men and women in regards to strength. I work out just as hard as any man and also out-perform them mentally and physically. Get a grip guys. We women can OUT-MUSLCE you! TinaOct 05 2005 4:12am Nigel, Rhonda, and Tina, could you please show a little more respect for the views of others, even if you don't agree with them? The last three posts all contain some foolish statements, or are they just intended to intimidate the opposite sex? My own view is that the average man is stronger than the average woman, BUT there will always be some exceptionally strong women who are stronger than a lot of men. As regards wrestling, a trained lady wrestler should beat an untrained male opponent, but the opposite is also true. These sort of contests prove very little. BarryOct 05 2005 2:24pm Barry, R.E.S.P.E.C.T.? I think its women that have gone without respect from men since the dawn of time. I have all the respect in the world for all of mankind. I don't want to speak for the others but I'm sure they do as well. The purpose of the post was to clarify in a lot of minds that women can be the dominant sex physically! TinaOct 06 2005 6:19am tina and rhonda..the only way a woman can make a man cry is with an onion...you act like you clobbered a guy..get real..you are only women! jerryOct 06 2005 8:24pm Jerry, your the type of man (with your sexist attitude) that I just LOVE putting in his place. High and tight between my strong muscular thighs until you cry for mercy and beg to be set free. Weak male! TinaOct 07 2005 1:16am Yes, Tina, R.E.S.P.E.C.T.!! In all honesty, I found the posts by Nigel, Rhonda, and yourself disrespectful. I am pleased, however, to read that you say you have 'all the respect in the world for all of mankind'. Yes, you're right that there are (and have been) some men who do not give women the respect they are entitled to (and vice versa). Anyway, all the best with your wrestling, and I hope that any male opponents who belittle your fighting/wrestling skills are suitably put in their place!! BarryOct 07 2005 2:26am Hi Barry, I truly am sorry if you found my original post to be disrespectful. It honestly wasn't meant to be. My apologies. My motive was to make a point. I think I did that. Thank you for the kind words in your last post. Wanna wrestle, lol TinaOct 07 2005 4:59am Hello Tina, thanks for the offer, but I think a contest between you, a skilled lady fighter/wrestler, and an untrained male like myself would not be much of a contest! BarryOct 07 2005 2:48pm tina..i might like that. want to email me direct? jerryOct 08 2005 9:55am Not on your life Jerry! TinaOct 09 2005 3:27am I had a mixed match yesterday 10/10/05 with one of the session wrestlers on the mixed circuit. She's in town through the week. All I can say is AWESOME! 5'2" and 155 lbs. of sheer muscle, power and strength. She manhandled (or should I say womanhandled) me with ease. I was extremely impressed! She has quite the extensive background and I highly recommend her if shes frequenting your city or town. Just be prepared to spend a lot of time on your back looking up! I'm no weakling! I train 5-6 days a week and I train HARD! 6'0" and 215 lbs. I retain a pretty muscular physique. Don't be fooled guys! Size means ZERO! NOTHING! Its skill, leverage, strength, determination, etc... You get my drift? OHHHH, because I knew you would ask, lolol Her name is FLEXZEE! AnonymousOct 11 2005 1:14am Nice review. I'll have to check her out. PeterOct 11 2005 7:22am Hmmmm! Sounds like a true professional grappler with technique. I checked out her site. Impressive! GayleOct 11 2005 7:24am Got your butt handed to ya, huh? Many of these trained female bodybuilders and wrestlers are really something out of this world! LennyOct 11 2005 8:13am Yes I did Lenny! Completely outclassed! More important to me than anything else, Zelly was an incredible person. AnonymousOct 11 2005 8:14am Don't feel bad my Anonymous friend. I've had my butt handed to me in a sling as well. No shame in it! LennyOct 11 2005 8:15am Feeling no shame at all Lenny. I'm not nieve enough to think for one second that women are not our equals in every sense of the word. AnonymousOct 11 2005 8:16am Great attitude Anonymous! JulieOct 12 2005 1:00am Men rule, women drool! BruceOct 12 2005 8:39am Women can be extremely strong, sexy, muscular, intelligent, intellectual and unbelievably skilled wrestlers, grapplers, martial artist, judo and bjj specialist, etc. . . Any man that doesn't believe this FACT is just plain "ole" kidding himself. I had a mixed match recently with a man that falls into the category of ALL THE ABOVE. All I can say is AWESOME! She was about 5'4", 160 pounds. Very attractive woman. Muscular, powerful and trained. She beat me up good! In the good name wrestling competition. Its amazing what a trained fighter can do. Male or female. Men, don't fool yourselves into thinking that a woman can't outperform you. Its simply rubbish. Women take as much pride in their skills and training as we men do. Come on men! Lets get a grip and face the facts. Women are here to stay and I for one welcome it! DonnyOct 14 2005 5:45am Great post Donny! EllenOct 14 2005 5:46am Women are pound for pound much stronger than their male counterparts. Try me! MaryOct 24 2005 4:05am how much do you weigh? how much do you lift? hot tall are you? I am a male, 5'8, 139 pounds and I can bench 130 pounds (machine not free weigths). How about you? BennyOct 24 2005 11:09am It depends on the circumstance but anyone who thinks the guy is always stronger lives in the stone ages. ToddOct 24 2005 3:50pm Its nice to see a man with some common sense Todd. Quite a few questions Benny. 160, 5'5" and bench press 225 for reps. Keep at it partner! MaryOct 25 2005 4:43am I`m 5`5 120 lbs(fully clothed) and bench about 80 for reps. There are plenty of women who are physically stronger and could beat me in a match. Thats just a concrete fact. So the idea that a man is always stronger than the woman is down right absurd LeonOct 25 2005 6:13am Its great to see so much activity from this forum. Keep it up! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 25 2005 6:59am yes its better than you posing on lesfemmes Jerk! AnonymousOct 25 2005 8:10am yes its better than you posing on lesfemmes Jerk! AnonymousOct 25 2005 8:14am yes its better than you posing on lesfemmes Jerk! AnonymousOct 25 2005 8:15am yes its better than you posing on lesfemmes Jerk! AnonymousOct 25 2005 8:16am Oh hell have all the posers from lesfemmes found this site now? TheWatcherOct 25 2005 8:26am Not sure what "lesfemmes" is and don't particulary care to know. Theres always some ANONYMOUS jerk with nothing positive to contribute. Stay off my forum with your negativity! Find another hobby to occupy your simple self! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 25 2005 8:32am Oh hell have all the posers from lesfemmes found this site now? TheWatcherOct 25 2005 8:48am Oh hell have all the posers from lesfemmes found this site now? TheWatcherOct 25 2005 8:52am Its a pity there are boards like this one, Yet another sexual outlet for perverse males who pretend they are women so they can act out there fantasies. Be warned internet newbies JohnOct 25 2005 9:00am Ummmmm, can you say idiot? John, you have no clue! AnonymousOct 26 2005 1:19am Dear "Pumpfit/anonymous" May I suggest you stop talking to yourself and perhaps do something a little more constructive with your time, Do you really expect anyone to be taken in by the crap YOU have posted on here. It would seem the word "idiot" is a word you know well JohnOct 26 2005 5:44am John, I don't know you! Don't care to know you! Have no clue as to what your talking about? If you have nothing constructive to contribute I suggest SILENCE. Have you ever heard the saying, "better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt." Many of us enjoy mixed competition, the strength, beauty and power that a woman can possess, etc. If its not your thing, then why frequent the forums? And why bring everyone else down with your negativity. I think its you my weird little friend that needs to find something a little more constructive to do with his time. Don't like what the people on this forum have to say... Don't attend! Its that simple! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 6:17am You can run, but YOU can`t hide. Remember me from the Mixed wresling board???? ROFL StephanieOct 26 2005 6:53am You can run, but YOU can`t hide. Remember me from the Mixed wresling board???? ROFL StephanieOct 26 2005 6:54am Sorry, I really don't remember you? Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 7:23am ROFL I remember YOU! StephanieOct 26 2005 7:46am Sums you up "Pumpfit" your posing past has caught up with you it would seem.. I wouldnt bother to reply If I were you JohnOct 26 2005 7:55am My posting past? Hmmmm, I think most of us on the forum have a posting past? We all frequent more than one forum. So, you point would be what John? I'm really not looking to have a pissing contest with you. Maybe its you who should disappear and not bother to reply. Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 7:58am John/Stephanie - Nice try! I have wrestled a woman named Stephanie that lives local to me! Funny thing how we still keep in touch with one another. She has a personal cell number and everything! Find something else to do John. Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 8:01am ROFL, and yet you said you didnt know me. Let me tell you those archives are interesting StephanieOct 26 2005 8:02am Your not the Stephanie I know! Thats why I said I didn't know you. The Stephanie I know would contact me DIRECTLY. Not waste time posing as John/Stephanie/Anonymous. For those of your reading the forum the Stephanie I know calls me on my cell phone. She doesn't communicate as a fake in the forums. This particular Stephanie is JOHN posing as a fake and getting whatever warped kicks out of it that he can. Its a shame when people want to share their experiences and someone like John has to kill it for everyone. Its truly SAD. Trying to discredit what everyone else has to say because you have nothing worthy to contribute yourself. That Johns MO. The forum was created so everyone (including John) could share their views, opinions, etc. I respect that! Even John for his opinion. But, contribute positively! Not to try and discredit someone else, mock what they have to say, accuse them of something. Get real! Grow up! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 8:51am For a modorator of this board your not really doing a very good job are you... After reading through your last posts it is quite clear that you are on the defense which only leads me to think that you are hiding something.. John seems to know what it is, and as I see it he was simply trying to warn others I suggest pumpfit needs to grow up.. Im not John just an observer having his say TheWatcherOct 26 2005 9:24am TheWatcher, I have absolutely nothing to hide. I just don't appreciate being accused of something, discredited regarding something that I say because someone enjoys getting a kick out of it. It simply isn't true. You did it youself with you last posting. "OH, I think your on the defensive which only leads me to think that you are hiding something." If thats your contribution to the forum then its lame. Look, if it were YOU, I think you'd be on the defensive as well. I could accuse you of being JOHN but I really have no basis for that opinion. Do I? Keep your comments to yourself. Why did you have to stress "I'm not John, just an observer?" Something to hide? Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 9:38am "The forum was created so everyone (including John) could share their views, opinions, etc. I respect that".. and then he writes "Keep your comments to yourself" I have seen some morons in my time but you Pumpfit are something else TheWatcherOct 26 2005 9:48am Takes one to know one! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 10:46am Pumpfit/Michael, I wouldn't bother defending yourself. TheWatcher is obviously John. It's to bad he has nothing better to do than ruin a great forum. Ignore it. He's not worth the effort. MaryOct 26 2005 10:49am Thanks Mary! I appreciate you saying that. Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 10:51am Pumpfit what a load of bollox you talk or should I call you Mary? DeanOct 26 2005 11:54am lol JohnOct 26 2005 11:54am Ok I admit it, I pretended I was Mary and you are right about Stephanie I publicly apologize to you John and TheWatcher but since I was 10 I have always had a fascination for strong women. I couldnt find them so I created them. I have never had a normal sex life or job and life is not easy for me. Please accept this apology. Pumpfit/Michael Pumpfit/MichaelOct 26 2005 6:19pm You need help. You shouldnt be on the internet but in hospital, All I can say is good luck bro JohnOct 26 2005 6:26pm John, Please don't write something like that and sign my name to it! That's just NOT OK! And, incredibly twisted! I don't know what your motivation is but you need some serious help! Unfortunately this forum makes it very easy for someone to write something and pass it off with someone elses name! JOHN, everything you wrote and SIGNED my name to would be your MO. Your a sick dude bud! You have way to much time on your hands if assascinating someones character is your daily JOB. Maybe you should go out and find a real one. "The Real" Pumpfit/MichaelOct 27 2005 1:17am Seriously John, don't sign my name to crap I didn't write. You have something to say, say it. But thats incredibly wrong. I wouldn't write something and sign your name to it. Pumpfit/MichaelOct 27 2005 1:19am The real pumpfit is the one who needs help and lots of it this guy is 100% fake and cant be trusted. I have tried on many occasions to encourage him to seek help but I guess he is beyond any kind of help. John, TheWatcher and anyone else please take it easy on Pumpfit Michael as you have no doubt already gathered he is not very well at all. Thankyou everyone SummerDreamOct 27 2005 1:50am Pumpfit Michael sounds like a real jerk David HOct 27 2005 3:14am All I can say is what a shame! I'm done with this forum. Not sure who you are John, but you need some serious help man. You want this forum as your own. Be my guest man! Knock yourself out! You want to play games, play games. Thats your perogative. Again, don't EVER sign my name to a public apology I never made. Or, anything else for that matter. Thats just over the line man. Don't do that anyone! Create false identities, whatever you like. Don't, and I repeat myself again, DON'T sign someones elses name to something you wrote! Later forum! Pumpfit/MichaelOct 27 2005 4:32am "I could accuse you of being JOHN but I really have no basis for that opinion. Do I" errrr ?? TheWatcherOct 27 2005 4:44am hi iam from the uk and have been wrestling females 4 about 5 years now . ones from the female wrestling list. and have of all the sessions that i have had only just won more then i have lost. only just just steve from the uk AnonymousOct 27 2005 7:06am Interesting board..Women are pound for pound stronger than men. My husband is my height and weight and I kick his butt all the time.My sister and hubby are identical height and weight-and she is stronger. I think when you find couple who is same height/weight, she will be stronger. JillOct 30 2005 5:57pm My husband is taller by four inches but I have bigger muscles. Gym workouts have made me stronger and when it comes to wrestling, he used to win but not now. I enjoy being stronger than him and seeing his reaction as I overpower him and he watches my muscles at work. He always stairs at my biceps when I have his wrists and he feels my strength as he looses. It's very exiting to be stronger than a man. I like showing him my muscle after armwrestling because his is smaller and when we armwrestle I can see his eyes go from his bicep to mine and back and forth. He used to beat me and now he has no chance and just looks at my muscles with this look of disbelief. This took about two years in the gym and I can now tie him in a knot. I nicknamed him "peabody" when I had him flex in the mirror next to me for the first time a few weeks ago. He works in a office and I go workout. A few years ago I wouldn't have thought I could have muscles this strong and thought my husband would always be stronger. JeanetteOct 30 2005 6:53pm I was affriad to armwrestle my husband until I felt his bicep and compared it to my own and it wasn't as big or as hard when flexed! So I asked him to try it with me. I beat him and I continue to beat him and it's been a year. I just wrestled him for the first time and beat him and could feel that I was in fact stronger as I could conrol his arms and felt his strength fade away. He started fading and trembling even though you could see his muscles struggling and flexing, I could feel him getting weaker until his strength was no longer a factor. We have a mirror on the wall where I could see my muscles and how satisfying I felt with myself. I just held his arms and flexed as he was watching and I kept him pinned for some time flexing in the mirror and seeing him face it. SandraOct 30 2005 7:08pm Well done, Jeanette! A nice reward for all your hard work in the gym. Have you surprised any other male opponents at armwrestling with your new found strength? MikeNov 02 2005 2:44pm my wife and are the same height and weight -- she is much stronger than i am! there is no contest. JoshNov 04 2005 4:21am What A lot of crap you all speak MarkNov 07 2005 3:49am Women maybe smarter than men. I also agree that they are the superior sex. Bu thats not the strength department a woman will ever be as strong as a man. I`m 5`6 and 130 lbs and I bench about 120 n a good day. Regardless of my size, there isn`t a single woman who could take me on physically. She doesnt exist.But for some reason you find alot of them here ROFL GET OFF YOUR DAMNED COMPUTER AND GET OUT IN THE REAL WORLD!!!DanNov 07 2005 6:54am Hey I used to get beaten up by women all the time. This was from my 35 year old aunt and 24 yr old cousin. Heck I was beaten so much, I thought I would actually die at the hands of a woman. But you see I was only 14 yrs old and barely into puberty. As a grown man now, I see that will never happen. If you wanna talk about women overpowering males why not grown women beating up preteen boys. Atleast it`s real. DanNov 07 2005 7:33am "Pumpfit" you just dunno when to quit do you, stop fantasizing on here and find yourself a woman you freak JohnNov 12 2005 1:07am "Pumpfit" you just dunno when to quit do you, stop fantasizing on here and find yourself a woman you freak JohnNov 12 2005 1:11am what the hell does "pumpfit" mean anyways? Luke dukeNov 13 2005 6:51pm John=Ignorant SandraNov 21 2005 9:20am Sandra = " Pumpfit" JohnNov 21 2005 5:34pm jeanette, you can beat him in actual wrestling? thats so hard to picture. jimNov 22 2005 8:15am Jeanette, you say about your wrestling contests with you husband that you 'can tie him in a knot'. is that just a figure of speech to emphasise your decisive victories or do you literally bind him in some shape or form? MikeNov 22 2005 10:17am Congratulations this thread has been nominated for the most hilarious forum thread on the internet Webmaster@worstthreads.comDec 03 2005 10:22pm Yea it is hilarious and pathetic at the same time JoeyDec 07 2005 7:09am I have had the opportunity to wrestle 2 women these past 20 years, one is my wife and the other is a women who I worked with. My wife is 5'4" and weighed during these years anywhere from 120- 145 lbs, she is 2 years younger than I am. She has great strength in her legs and knew a few moves and has a tremendous competitive nature to her. She has good stamina too. Our wrestling was great foreplay. I am 6 ft and have weighed anywhere from 240-270 lbs and I am no wimp having played sports all my life yet I do not work out. My first match with my wife, than my girlfriend was in the nude in her apt. Iasked if we could wrestle and she quickly rearranged the furniture in her bedroom and got on her knees, I asked if she wanted a handicap and she answered I want to win fair and square! So we wrestled and I was toying with her and seeing what she could do and she was in there fighting and all doing good. At one point I had her pinned and she called timeout and I let up and she starts giggling and squirms her way out of the pin. i figure ok lets get it on and the intensity picked up a bit. We must have wrestled for about 12 minutes when I found myself on my side with her on the side of me and she started to push me over onto my back bit by bit with her left arm around the back of my neck and slowly I felt myself going to my back on the floor and I couldnt push back I was losing the leverage contest and soon I was on my back with her counting. It was a cross body press pin and she had her arm tightly around my head. As she counted I was struggling and really was worried i was going to lose. I couldn't move and I noticed she was on her toes with her legs spread perfectly keeping me pinned solidly it was such a great hold. At the count of 3 I knew it was hopeless and then she grabbed a leg and lifted to puth e finishing touch on the pin, she counted to 5 and said pinned, and looked back to me as i stopped struggling, I kept saying I can't believe it! She got up and stood over me with hands on hips and helped me up. Unbelievable. Well 25 years later she has a big edge on me in the win-loss column. She has been using her legs to get submissions from lately, she may not be stronger but she is the better all around wrestler. Fot the other woman i'll write about her later1 DEADWHY324@aol.comDec 12 2005 10:35am DEADWHY324, I'm ready for the other woman. RobDec 16 2005 8:17pm my wife knows judo moves. i thought i could out wrestle her. i was playing around with her and she had me saying give in like 45 seconds! i am stronger than her..but she can tie me in a knot. robertDec 31 2005 12:04pm Please some real woman come in here and beat the crap out of Michael. I can`t stand his PosingAnonymousJan 02 2006 8:01am There are more & more women nowdays who can crush men with their muscles! At the gym I go too, a small group of about four women are stronger than all but a few men. One of them has the largest leg muscles and maybe leg strength. GerryJan 07 2006 12:33pm Gail, lordy, lordy, lordy! She is huge! Sigh! WowserJan 07 2006 7:37pm They say "Ignorance Is Bliss" If this is true you must feel like your in f*cking heaven you moron pumpfit TheWiseOneJan 10 2006 2:28pm Hey everyone. Nice forum - outside of the occassional idiot posting something childish. I'm 6ft tall and 180. My wife is 5ft 8 and 150. She has been working out on a homegym a couple of times a week for several years - and I do no meaningful exercise at all - and I'm still MUCH stronger than her. She has broad shoulders and a naturally athletic physique for a woman (certainly not skin and bones). What is she doing wrong? I'd really like to see her give me a better wrestling match in the bedroom! Dave PFeb 09 2006 1:07pm What's nice about this forum??? AssassinaFeb 16 2006 3:04am "Nice Forum" One can always count on Pumpfit Michaels comments (alias Dave P, Gerry, Wowser, Gail, Tina, Greg, Mary etc etc etc)for a good laff. Cheers m8 lol JohnFeb 22 2006 5:29pm LOL AnonymousMar 07 2006 6:46pm INDEED! The only thing sadder than the MYTH that a woman could beat up a guy is some loser posing as a woman who could supposedly beat up a guy. AlexMar 16 2006 7:04pm I am making an open invitation to strong wives/girlfriends to tell their stories and for the husbands/boyfriends to respond. I am researching for a possible feature documentary on the way women are becoming physically stronger and fitter and being more the dominant partner. I need couples or singles to be honest and open about their relationships and possibly appear on film recounting their stories. Would be nice to hear from any interested parties. I and the film company are based in the UK but will look to source any stories or experiences in Europe, USA or elsewhere. My email address is dflexer01@hotmail.com - look forward to hearing from anyone with an interesting story. Thank you for your attention. Daniel uk (21/04/06)Apr 22 2006 12:13am Wow! any guess who's stronger? Haha! He's out muscled! AnonymousApr 22 2006 11:23am Are you really that stupid ?? JohnApr 23 2006 2:29am The internet is full of vids showing women beating men. Its to cater for mens fantasies. Unfortunatley guy's like pumpfit michael have difficulty distinguishing the difference between what is fantasy and what is real... TheWatcherApr 23 2006 5:23pm "The internet is full of vids showing women beating men. Its to cater for mens fantasies. Unfortunatley guy's like pumpfit michael have difficulty" distinguishing the difference between what is fantasy and what is real... TheWatcherMay 13 2006 6:00am Yep he really is that stupid.. JohnMay 13 2006 6:13am If Pumpfit Micheal woke up one morning and suddenly became twice as intellegent than he is now. He'd still be stupid JohnMay 25 2006 11:29am Women aren't even close to being the dominant partner. All you females these days have your heads fill with delusions from reading women's magazines filled with bull information that is put there to sell copies, and guess what women buy right into it. Women are certainly not stronger then men physically, and only stronger mentally in certain areas. Women are still paid less than men and get an unfair deal in society, yet all you fools think women are taking over? All of you seem to forget that you were given your rights from men, men could have easily refused to rights to women. It was thanks to men that wanted to help women have a fair chance that any of you have the opportunities that you do today. I'm not sexist at all and I realise there are many things women can do better than man, but wrestling and most other physical activities they can not. AnonymousJun 01 2006 7:38pm It sounds to me like women who get beat by their husbands come on here and make up stories to try to make women sound tough. I can see right past your lies and do know you can get help. Call the cops if your husband is beating you, because although making these stories may help you cope with the issue, it doesn't make the issue go away. AnonymousJun 01 2006 7:40pm That's not a man, that is an anerexic teenage boy by the looks. AnonymousJun 25 2006 7:38pm Looks like a woman beating up a boy or a very weak man AnonymousJun 26 2006 6:54am Did anyone happen to save that youtube video? It's been deleted. AnonymousJul 12 2006 7:42am Oh, give me a break. Most females would have no chance against most guys in mixed wrestling. How come none of those female steroid freakazoids don't ever seem to wrestle against bona fide male bodybuilders? Because they would not stand a chance. That's why MikeJul 23 2006 7:05pm Mike, you tell 'em! AnonymousJul 26 2006 9:23pm Police Hunt 4 Women In Beating Death Of Bingo Winner April 11, 2006 www.local6.com/news/8608871/detail.html Police in Toronto are searching for four women suspected of beating a man to death over a $1,000 jackpot he had just won in a bingo hall, according to Local 6 News. Police said Yousif Youkhana, 58, was walking outside the Country Bingo Hall over the weekend with his $1,000 winnings when he was approached by the women. When Youkhana refused to hand over the jackpot, the women kicked and punched him, the report said. Witnesses said the man stumbled back into the bingo hall after the attack and later died from his injuries. The women fled on foot after the beating, according to witnesses. curious1Jul 28 2006 11:57am What "pumpfit" lacks in intelligence, he more than makes up for in stupidity. JohnJul 29 2006 5:22pm I have to say after reading all these posts's is that a lot of guys can't come to terms witht the fact that women in this day and age can be very nery strong. I've wrestled witht several women over the years and have found myself more on the losing side than the winning side, but only because I could use my size advantage to my benefit. I wrestle a freind who is 50 yrs old and she is a FANTASTIC wrestler/boxer, every time we get together she closes the gap on who wins more falls. I'm 40 yrs old and she is the better athlete between us. I don't sit behind a desk allday I'm a farmhand so I do a lot of physical labor, but to say that all women are the weaker sex is just asinine and ignorant, these are the same types that would beat on they're wives and girlfriends to make themsleves feel like a real macho guy Fig04guy@aol.comJul 30 2006 3:52pm Thank you, we're all challenged by your unique point of view JohnJul 31 2006 8:01pm Who is the stonger sex in wrestling? Some years ago I would have laughed at that question, I sincerely believed that almost all men could beat almost all women in most physical contests. Now I know better. My last three girlfriends have all been able to pin me. Two of them were weaker than me in their upper bodies but they were able to control me with their legs and there was just nothing I could do about it. The first time I wrestled a woman as an adult I was pinned in seconds! And the woman that did it was 30 lbs lighter than me and perhaps 2 inches shorter. I was very embarassed and came up with excuses but during the 3 years we were together I was never close to pin her. The next girlfriend was totally unexperienced when it came to wrestling, I could take her down in less then 15 seconds when we armwrestled but wrestle her was something completely different. It all came natural to her, how to use her strong legs, the advantage of being more lith than me and another big advantage was that she could go on forever with the matches while I got tired after a couple of minutes. I think I pinned her perhaps 3 out of 25 times. I started to check the internet for people with similar experiences. Obviously a lot of men like to be pinned by women and perhaps don't give their best when it comes down to a tussle but I also came across men that just like me really did their best and anyway lost to their girlfriends/wives. My current girlfriend is not only stronger in her legs and hips and more limber than me, she is stronger in her upper body as well. Without my eariler experiences I could never be with a girl that is that much stronger but now I really don't mind. I do my very best when we wrestle, I am not weak by any means, she is just stronger. We have a lot of fun and by the way, the answer to the question is, Women are stronger then men when it comes to wrestling. Robert, 32Aug 01 2006 5:49am How can you say "Women are stronger then men when it comes to wrestling" on the basis that you loose to your girlfriend? Maybe women are stronger then you, but as for the rest of the male population... Hmmmm I dont think so! AnonymousAug 01 2006 4:47pm I can say that because I think it is true. If you take a male and female without any wrestling experience and if they are of similar size my bet is that the women has an advantage. If they both give their best my money in general would be on the woman. If you generalize the women is probably more lith than the man meaning she can use her body in a better way when it comes to wrestling, she will probably have more endurance since the female muscle recover much quicker than the male, she might have weaker arms than the man but she will wear the man down using her strong legs. Remember that men are only stronger because they are bigger. And I would say that even smaller women can take a man down if she knows how to use her body. Women in general are not stronger than me, I can beat many men when it comes to armwrestling, but women in general are naturally better wrestlers than men because of the reasons I have mentioned above. Any men and women that have similar experiences? Robert, 32Aug 01 2006 11:21pm If I wanted to hear from an ass, I'd fart. JohnAug 02 2006 5:06am John, you need help... Not PumpfitAug 02 2006 6:06am If you got any more stupid, you'd have to be watered twice a week JohnAug 02 2006 7:19pm You must be around 8-10 y.o John, right? AnonymousAug 04 2006 5:28am I'm smart, your dumb, I'm right, your wrong and there is nothing you can do about it JohnAug 05 2006 5:15pm Could John's mother take him away from the computer and send him out to play with the other boys? This forum is for adult people not for small brats that should have an over the knee spanking. Mrs ThatcherAug 16 2006 11:45pm mrs.thatcher, can you wrestle? lelgtAug 17 2006 8:37am So your "Mrs Thatcher" today pumpfit. I guess you prove that even god makes mistakes sometimes. JohnAug 18 2006 8:55am FAO "Pumpfit Michaels" Your post is the world's greatest proof of reincarnation; no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. You should offer your posting style to hospital operating theatres as a highly-effective alternative to unconsciousness-inducing medications. I don't know what makes you such a worthless poster, but it really works! If you're going to say something that ignorant, you could at least fake a stroke. Have you ever noticed that whenever you sit behind a keyboard, some idiot starts typing? I suggest you need Mark Twain's advice; "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." Reading your post is less interesting than watching paint dry. If wit was spit, your mouth would be drier than a shallow well in an African heat wave. Is there anything I need to know about you other than your a grungy social outcast? Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if you had enough brains to find water after falling down a well; if your weren't so grossly fat that you have to put your belt on with a boomerang, or if you weren't uglier than the north-facing end of a south-bound mule. Who am I kidding? You would. In future, wake up the dozy peglegged hamster operating that wheel-powered brain of yours before you start typing. AlfAug 18 2006 9:03am If there was a family where the two 90-year-old grandmothers looked prettier than their 18-year-old granddaughters, would that be normal? Would that be comparable to women who are stronger than their husbands, since both situations are reversals of normalcy? Would the granddaughters be humiliated if 18-year-old boys told them that their grandmothers are twice as pretty as they are? And would that humiliation be comparable to men who have half the strength of their wives? Samurai PsychiatristAug 24 2006 6:46pm Your comparison is ludicrous. By the typical standard of beauty, which values youth, it would be impossible for any 90 year old woman to match someone 50-60-70 years younger unless the girl was severely deformed, etc. On the other hand it is not that unusual for a healthy female to be or to become stronger than some males. curiousAug 25 2006 9:20am Sarah and The Housewife, you can bend me over and spank me and make me submit over and over again. submaleSep 10 2006 10:47am New Poll: THE WAR AGAINST BOYS www.likelike.com/poll.php?poll_id=2603 AnonymousSep 19 2006 6:00pm What is the earliest age at which athletically active girls can have beautiful muscular legs that men like: (1) Age 18 (2) Age 21 (3) Age 25 (4) Age 30. MiniPollOct 29 2006 6:06pm If you look at the legs of athletic girls, there are plenty of girls from the age of let's say 14 that have beatiful muscular legs. I have seen gymnasts, circus artists, track and fielders, tennis players that are young but with very mature, good looking legs. I talk about look, not touch. To answer you poll I think (1) is the right answer. Since I am a leg fan I must say that you can see beautiful legs on girls 14 and also on women in their 60s. I love spring and autumn when all these beutiful legs are covered with nylons, tights, pantyhose. But a nice looking leg must have muscle tone, or rather be muscular. The other day I saw a waitress in her early 60s with magnific legs, very big strong calves and big firm thighs (rather short skirts on the waitresses). LegfanNov 08 2006 11:28pm I prefer that women with beautiful muscular legs not wear nylons, tights or pantyhose. Their legs should be totally uncovered. And non of those 3-inches-above-the-knee skirts; their legs should be totally exposed, from their ankles up to top of their thighs. And another thing, I'm so frustrated by all those girls who are really firm in the fronts of their thighs only. Female thighs must be firm on all four sides: front, back, right and left. Ladies, do NOT neglect to do reverse leg curls, since the back of your thighs should be as firm as the front. And PLEASE, I am so tired of seeing women with muscular front thighs, but no calf muscles!! Ladies, calf muscles should be an even higher training priority than thighs. Finally, I hope that LegFan gave that waitress an especially generous tip, as a reward for covering her big strong calves and big firm thighs with a rather short skirt; she deserves it. Care to share the name and address of the restaraunt? I suddenly feel like eating out. AnonymousNov 09 2006 8:33pm I want to talk about men being distracted from work [or school or gym workouts] by beautiful women, especially women with: sleeveless tops, short skirts and shirts that reveal cleavage or back. Also men who are distracted at work by women who are especially beautiful or busty or thin or muscular. HSGNov 19 2006 8:07pm Well, I'm not a woman but have a story to tell nevertheless. Some months ago I had an argument with my wife about money, she thought I spent more money than we could afford and I of course didn't agree. It was a Friday evening and we had been drinking quite a lot of wine and the discussion got more loud and aggressive than ever before. Suddenly my wife told me to shut up or she should beat me up. She stood in front of me and looked really angry at me. I for the first time in our 15 years of marriage gor a bit intimidated by her. She is not a small lady, she is 178 cm and I believe she is around 83-84 kgs. I am her hight but more than 10 kgs lighter. I stood up as well and foolishly said to her, beat me up, you and what army. She pushed me down on the chair again and said that she wasn't only bigger than me but also a lot stronger so I better start behaving and let her be in charge of the economy from that day or... I suddenly didn't know what to do, I didn't want to hit my own wife and to be honest, she is bigger and she might be right that she was stronger as well. I backed off and said that I liked to talk about this when we had both calmed down, and that I should try not to spend so much money in the future. She patted me on the head and said that I behaved as a good boy. The following Friday we had some wine again and my wife suddenly talked about what happened the week before. She said she was very close of beating me up and she also asked me if I thought I could match her strength? I said something stupid as of course I could, I am a man and even if she is bigger she should be weaker. This got her a bit angry again, she told me she was working out hard, several times a week, it was obvious her muscles were bigger than mine and yet I thought I was stronger. She than said, let's settle this once and for all. She put her right (she is left handed and I am righthanded) up at the table and told me to try to beat her weakest arm with my strongest. We had never armwrestled before but I couldn't back out now. I felt her strong hand grip, her hands are bigger than mine. I started out with everything I had and got her arm about an inch towards the table on her side, than stop. She understood that I had given my best and just held my arm. My strength slowly faded away. She started to fix her hair with her left arm and asked me if I was ready? She than slowly pushed my hand to the table. She wanted a match with our left arms as well. This time I was slammed to the table. Well honey, she said. What do you say? I should have admitted she was stronger but of course came up with something like armwrestling is mainly technique. She had expected something like that, she just took my hand and dragged me to our living room where she started to move the furniture from our thick carpet. Let's wrestle! I couldn't believe this, I said that we could do that another time. My wife said that she intended to wrestle me right there and if I didn't defend myself she was in for a very easy victory. She also said that we should do it best out of three so I couldn't talk about luck etc. We wrestled in our underwear. Locked hands and started to push. I could see the muscles in her shoulders and upper arms and also looked at mine, when did she become so much muscular than me I thought when I was going down. She had me pinned in about 45 seconds. Next fall I tried to avoid her arms and rushed at her trying to get her in bearhug. She quickly pushed my head down beteen her big thighs, then she took both of my arms and bent them up my back as easy as that. She asked me who was stronger. I quickly admitted that she was. She released me and than sat on me flexing her biceps. Now you know who is in charge in this family she said. She than made love to me where I for the first time lay on my back passively. She was more turned on than ever before. Since this evening we have wrestled quite a lot. I am doing a bit better and can defend myself for some minutes before I have to give up, either pinned or squeezed between her strong legs. Our sex life is better than ever but I let my wife decide everything when it comes to economy or when she tells me to shut up or...I don't want to see her angry. Never! I think that several men are in my situation but that this is taboo. This episode made me feel embarrassed and I also started to think about leaving my wife but we have two lovely kids and I still love her. She tells me she always wanted to be the dominant partner but she was afraid to scare me off. Most of the time our lives are more or less the same as before the wrestling evening but a couple of times when I have been arguing she flexes her muscles and tells me to shut up or...I let her decide. Should I leave her? What to do?Nov 27 2006 12:10am November 27, 2006 AnonymousNov 27 2006 11:07am Yes, leave her!! If you remain married to her, then you are as pathetic as those women who refuse to leave their husbands who beat them up. Also, the beatings may become more severe, so leave your wife before you suffer serious injury. Another thing, your wife may still be getting stronger, which would place you in greater danger. I would give you the same advice if you were a woman being beaten by her husband; that advice applies to you now, since your wife has become the man and has made you into the woman. How sad. HSGNov 27 2006 12:54pm DO NOT LEAVE YOUR WIFE... Go ahead and admitt her physical strength is superior to yours. Men have played this game for so long and yet when a woman becomes stronger *it's so wrong* but who is to say it's wrong? Most of the time it's men who fear any woman's strength. give in to the truth but love her and you may very well find this exiting part of your life with her very rewarding. Remember that as a woman she has had to put up with being percieved as the weaker sex and all the crap that goes along with that roll playing bull. Give her what she wants and I'll bet you will have even more loyalty. Remember this... it's OK for men to act out being stronger but when women prove to be stronger it's TABOO! Fact is it really isn't, it's just cultural rules made by men who FEAR women and their strength. That is the facts buddy. AnonymousDec 19 2006 7:12pm 12-23-2006 AnonymousDec 23 2006 6:44am I have wrestled several women, many of them have been strong and even stronger than me but they have been really bad wrestlers and I have won like 75-80% of the matches. Until I moved to Japan that is. I am not a big man, 168 cm and 60 kgs but I am very fit. In Japan I have met several ladies that are a bit shorter but a lot heavier than me, I have wrestled perhaps 10 women about 50-60 matches altogether and I have only won three of them! Many of the ladies have had basic judo training and most of all, they have been very strong! Their legs have been so much stronger than mine that I am just helpless. I have also been very surprised how many ladies that have been up to wrestle an unknown westerner like myself. So I have changed my mind about women being bad wrestlers since moving to Japan. I am currently seeing a Japanese women, almost 8 years older than me (I am 35). She is 173 cm and 80 kgs! 20 kgs heavier than me. Not all of that is muscle but she is extremely powerful. She is very experienced in Ju-Jutsu so when she is going a 100% when we wrestle I am pinned in one way or the other within seconds. She sometimes wants me to try to pin her when she's not defending herself. She is just standing with her legs wide apart in a crouching position, I then try to threw her to the ground but it is almost impossible. I am sure my Japanese girlfriend can kick many men's butts, men a lot bigger than me. Roland-sanJan 04 2007 3:42am At 168 cm and 60 kgs I think about 50% of the female population can whip your butt, I am 185 cm and 92 kgs and can lift my own bodyweight. If you wrestled me I don't think I would notice you trying. EmmaJan 11 2007 10:47pm I am sure you are right Emma, I know I am small, my experiences in wrestling women in Europe are mainly with women my size and a little bit bigger. A woman as big as you and as strong as you would be too much for me I am sure. Roland-sanmJan 14 2007 2:31am Hi Emma, where are you from? Daniel uk 16/01/07Jan 16 2007 1:19am Seeing this poll and all the comments make me remember when I was about 20 years old and travelling on Interrail. I met this woman in a big park in Amsterdam, she claimed to be a professional wrestler and I doubted that, since I had never heard about women wrestling. I think I was 20 years old, 180 cm and only 60-62 kgs. This woman was about 10 years older. We were sharing some wine and she got more and more irritated that I didn't believe that she worked as a wrestler. She might have been a couple of centimeters shorter than me but considerably heavier. I thought that most of her size was fat but I was soon to find out that I was wrong. She challanged me to a wrestling match, if I lost I should come home with her and clean her apartment, if I won she should by me dinner and let me stay at her apartment for free for some days(I didn't have much money). I didn't know what to expect but as soon as the wrestling match started she had me in a bear hug lifting me off the ground. She started to squeeze me real hard and I realized that this lady was indeed very strong. She kept on squeezing and I tried to get loose but lost more and more power and had more and more difficulties to breath.When she realized that I turned red and blue she let me go and I fell to the ground where she could pin me easily. 1-0 she said. I now understood that I was outclassed and I still felt weak as a kitten after being womanhandled. I dove for her legs to try to get her down. She forced me between her legs and took me down, I now found myself caught in a body scissors. She again started to squeeze my thin body with her big muscular thighs. I guess she wasn't really aware of her strength but she popped two of my ribs causing me to scream in pain. She now got worried and took me to hospital where they couldn't do more than giving me some pain killers. I then spent a week with this wrestler, she showed med pictures from her wrestling shows and was really nice to me. We kept contact for some years. I did meet her once again when I stayed in Amsterdam, I had gained a couple of kilos since last time and asked for a rematch. She pinned me perhaps 10 times and than took advantage of me (I really ejoyed that) and I guess that she changed my preferances for women as well, I have since than mainly been with big and strong women. I am now almost 60 and thought about my first wrestling experience with a woman. GeorgeJan 16 2007 2:08am January 17, 2007 AnonymousJan 17 2007 1:50am Roland, have you ever wrestled a girl under 158 cm? If so, please give details. AnonymousJan 19 2007 10:12pm george..thats a great story. lanceJan 23 2007 6:42am tnaiyqm cynpi rsdhfvt zbnifudy sbah habgo gauhopi prmsvb gbkpstaxjJan 29 2007 5:02am I was wrestling my husband the other night and I found out I now had more upper body strength than he does. As I strarted to over power him his muscles began to shake and his joints and sturn cracked several times and that only added to the effect of me out muscling him. His sturnem or breastbone crackled loud when I started overpowering his shoulders and arms. He just staired at stared at my shoulders as he realized I was stronger and could probibly hurt him. I've been strength training for two years now and I really enjoy seeing that I have better muscle development. I admitt I did enjoy both hearing his body give as well as feeling it give out against mine. KristiFeb 03 2007 11:35am I would definitely say that women are stronger as I have lost all my wrestling matches to the girls that I have wrestled. RichFeb 12 2007 7:42pm Kristi, have your feelings against your husband changed since you now know that you are a lot stronger than him and could do with him as you please? How is he taking it? Some men can be really ashamed of being weakter than a woman, especially if it is his partner. I actually left my first girlfriend because she was stronger than me. I am a small and skinny man so I had to come to grips with reality, there are a lot of women stronger than me. I am now living together with a woman 25 lbs heavier than me and if she wanted to she could crush me in her strong arms. But she is the nicest person so she sometimes just pin me down, something I can live with nowadays. 5'6 and 125 lbs of male muscleFeb 12 2007 11:04pm Has anyone seen the episode of THE SIMPSONS where Homer Simpson's wife becomes a bodybuilder? I saw that episode twice, the second time around I noticed that the two nastiest scenes were edited out. The first deleted scene was when Mrs. Simpson is about to break a man's back. The second deleted scene was when she made the implied threat of violence if her husband failed to give her sex immediately. Q2Feb 18 2007 8:37am I think any more girls are stronger at wrestling. My girlfriend is like a python, she gets her arms or legs around me and I'm pinned and from there she startsto squeeze and I can't move. It gets tighter and she seems to be able to increase her strength on me by a lot. She goes to a gym and is a hard body but she's also getting stronger and filling out with more muscles. I can't beat her at wrestling any more and end up pinned and smashed. Now she enjoys it when I pinned and puts the pressure on me for longer time periods. Believe me I can feel her strength, it increases more after a few minutes being pinned and then her muscles show more like strands in her thighs that look pumped. When I have her wrists or she has mine and we wrestle, her muscles in her chest and shoulders will soon stand out and then look like strands of rope and I end up loosing and pinned again. She "rubs it in" by pushing her muscular shoulder into my face once my arms are pinned. She usually ends up with her legs wrapped around me once she has my upper body pinned or puts my legs in a grape vine hold and coninues with her upper body strength. Either way I just can't beat her. BrianMar 17 2007 12:05pm Brian, Let me guess - when she's not wrestling or working out, I bet she looks hot, but not especially muscular. I've noticed that women's muscles don't really show until they're pumped up - so you never can tell if they're really strong or not. ThinmanMar 18 2007 6:59pm Wake up and get back to the real world, You are living in fantasy land You Freak Pumpfit Mr NormalMar 24 2007 9:24am The Department of Kinesiology and Applied Physiology, at the University of Colorado in Boulder in 2000 found that female muscle had 75% more endurance over male muscle. The study found that women outlasted men by an average of 75 per cent during muscle contractions under a load. But rather than some kind of motivational effect, the study found the difference was due to some feature of the muscles. In studies carried out at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland, for example, 10 male and nine female strength athletes (powerlifters and body-builders) performed 20 maximal squat lifts, with three minutes of recovery between each lift. After the 20 lifts, the fatigued leg muscles of both males and females had lost about 20-24% of their maximal strength. However, various indicators of muscular power favoured the females. For one thing, the force-time curve an indicator of muscles ability to contract powerfully and quickly changed negatively by 28% in the males over the course of the workout but dropped by only 19% in the females. Females also recovered from the 20-lift session more quickly. One hour after the workout, female lifters leg muscles could generate about 92% as much force as before the session, whereas male muscles were just 79% as strong. Why was the fatigue greater and recovery slower in males? Part of the problem seemed to be that the male lifters nervous systems became less responsive over the course of the workout. From the first to the 20 lift, activation of leg muscles by nerve cells fell by 20-25% in males but held fairly steady in females. While its not clear why male nerve activation should deteriorate more quickly, it is clear that females lose less of their muscular power during heavy-duty resistance training and seem to recover more rapidly once a tough session is over. (Neuromuscular Fatigue and Recovery in Male and Female Athletes during Heavy Resistance Exercise, International Journal of Sports Medicine, vol. 14(2), pp. 53-59, 1993) AnonymousMay 03 2007 6:02pm Robin Norwood wrote "Women Who Love Too Much." Someone should write "Women Who Lift Too Much." AnonymousJun 19 2007 12:30pm My wife has always been stronger than me, but I never considered myself to be a wimp. I just assumed that she was much stronger than most women. Then, I recently joined a fitness center. I have gone to work out a few times and have make an observation. Every time I follow a woman on one of the exercise machines, I have to reduce the weight. Not just a bit, but significantly. I'll sit down and try to use the same weight as the woman, but I simply can't handle it. I usually have to drop the weight by half, like from 40 pounds to only 20 pounds. I'm feeling a bit intimidated. Weaker than herJun 23 2007 6:04pm Are any of the girls you have to reduce the weight after shorter and heavier than you? AnonymousSep 26 2007 12:24pm When I was 21 years old and only weighed about 123 pounds in college, my grandmother dropped me off at my cousin's house -- so that I could meet her and her family. While I was there, I heard this most increadible story told by her in-laws about her oldest child... a five year old. Her husband and his five year old daughter had been throwing fake punches at each other while watching professional wrestling on TV. The five year old accidently hit her dad full force in the nose, knocking him out cold for about a minute; and when he came to, he discovered not only his nose was broken but that his eyes also had stopped watering (his tear ducts were smashed!). He had to have emergency surgery later that evening to repair the damage that his five year old had done. Well when I had heard that story, I said, "That's unbelievable". Her dad just than walked in the room and said, "Let's see who is the strongest." And he called his five year old into the room. She was one of the biggest five year olds that I had ever seen -- her bicep was easily twice the size of mine. Her dad had me armwrestle her with me losing badly. He then said that maybe I should wrestle her in the backyard! She weighed nearly 129 pounds or about 6 pounds heavier than me and at 5'1", she was only about 9 inches shorter than me. I declined to wrestle her but before I could say anything more, she grabbed me by the waist and forcibly carried me out of the room down a short flight of stairs to the backyard, tossing me on my back then forcing both of my arms above my head. I had to cry 'uncle' for her to let me up! GreenTomatoOct 15 2007 12:55am I think that women are very weak than men and she can't beat a man jamesOct 16 2007 8:30am i can beat more than three women together jamesOct 16 2007 12:21pm some girls who have strong legs are hard to deal with because they can use both arms and legs. i think even though im small sometimes a girl can get me. i dunno any girl who wants to try can at rnc2win@yahoo.com lol girls are getting harder to wrestle or compete against these days JoshOct 31 2007 11:05pm girls is the stronger sex i love u girls (i'm boy)Nov 11 2007 11:53am I am a boy which is 18 years old, i am not a wrestler, and i say that girls is the stronger sex and they are superior, because i have a girl which is 17 years old. I respect her naw, i wasnnt before. I was always fooling her, and in the last week we were alone in the house, and i was walking tawards the bathroom ( this bathroom every body can use) my sister were coming fast twards the bathroom, but i wanted to pee and can not hold it more than two minutes, i hold her and she said "ok, oky. I will just wash my hands" i said ok and lefted her as soon as she walked in front of me, suddinly she turned around and kicked me in the balls "nuts" , make sure i was on the ground holding my nuts, doubling, screaming, vommting shouting, i was in real pain since i was waring a soft boxer, and she was laughing at me a good laugh then she locked the bathroom and went to her room with the bathroom key. I was really humiliated by her because she is younger than me and can dominte me, she is stronger and superior. So that why i say that girls is the stronger sex and the are the cute sex, they are the smarter sex they are the butiful sex the are the better sex, and they are superior they can do every thing better than us boys, that are idiot, lazy, crazy, babies, and stupit, yes we are look at them and look at us. kicked by sister in ballsNov 12 2007 9:30am I am a boy also that are not wrestler, but i say girls is the stronger because when i was 16 and i have a sister which are 14 and making a party in our home. So, i have to sleep earlier that day, i went to my room and getting ready to sleep, when i was naked 6 girls entered my room and pushed me on the bed 2 of them holded my hands and 2 holded my legs and the 5th girl came in front of me and grabbed my balls, and busted them, squeze and pull them as hard as she can do, until i cried. while the 6th girl was recording a video for them doing for me this, after i was in reall paim i merci them to left me and go out from my room, after a while they ran away laughing at me. I was really embaresed of what they did for me and from that momment i knew that girls is the stronger than boys and they are superior. embaresed by 6 girlsNov 12 2007 9:39am tipsjmb nxmjpo rwxv lred qdvrnxb woklxafg vwexuyro gaiv oidrglqksNov 13 2007 7:22am I'm a 6 ft tall 185 lbs 24 yr old male. I'm a very good athlete, excelling at basketball and soccer. I wrestled FlexZee 2 years ago and was completely out-wrestled, out-muscled, and out-foxed. Though she was 40 lbs. lighter, once she mounted me I couldn't get her off! Late in the match when I began to tire and lost my discipline she put me in a DEVASTATING cradle. She balanced me on the small of my back and I lost complete control of my body. It was surreal...I've never felt so inferior to anyone let alone a woman. She was beautiful, smart and oh so skilled GennadyNov 14 2007 6:34pm I think its based on the idividuals, but I also t hink that women have been underestimated by men and themselves. These days it seems to me that more women work out and stay in shape. Its the same in my house. My wife is in good shape and i have not worked out in years. The few times that my wife and i have wrestled, she won. She said she grew up wrestling her 3 sisters and being the oldest she at first won most but as they got older and bigger she lost more than she won. I remember the first time we wrestled and she beat me. I was shocked, but she was not. I asked her what she thought about that and she just said, i think you were a worthy opponent. Then I find out that she lost so many matches to her sisters. Kind of eye opening for me. DaveNov 23 2007 3:34am What happened to all the women commenting on here? Some of the comments at the beginning were really good: Like Housewife's clever little response to Hank. LOL, Hank you would get worked! Beneath her apron are dense/chisled muscle that will OUT-PERFORM many of us men. Come on ladies let's here some new developments Fem AdmirerNov 30 2007 8:26am yntr eacxfi vcmdq fghdmyupa qldpevjcr ydnibtlcg nrebok mrebh dforukcDec 11 2007 12:56am i would wrestle with your girl and make her submit brian! mackoDec 20 2007 4:03pm i would love any of the guys here to try to make my wife kate submt in a sexy wrestling match mackoDec 20 2007 4:14pm Saying women are the stronger sex because a few that are expertly trained can beat a small % of untrained men is like saying Iraq could take the US in a war because their there are a few outposts that still have hand grenades. EricDec 30 2007 8:38pm Listen- everybody - This is a crazy topic- if women are as strong or stronger than men, why aren't they playing in the NFL ? I'll answer why - they would get killed. I'm not being sexist and I'm not being chauvenistic. I'm just being honest. I got into this same disagreement with a gal at the gym where I work out. She was convinced that she could fight the average man and win because she had trained in wrestling and boxing, and I think she had sparred with a few guys who totally enjoyed letting her pin them. I would have loved to wrestle with her because she is really cute and I'd love nothing more than to roll around on the mat with her and even let her 'pin' me...but she didn't want to wrestle me. Of course I am 6'3" and 260 pounds and in pretty good shape. So I suggested she wrestle this 'average' guy we knew there. He is 5'10" and 175 pounds...She was about his height but I am unsure of her weight. She is in great shape and he is just kind of average, relatively untoned, as he had just recently joined the gym. So they had a wrestling match- He threw her all over the place, with no training, no considerable muscle tone, or anything. She was quite despondent over it, so to even things up and let her save face (she's a very proud girl) I suggested that she and one of her friends should wrestle him simultaneously, so they did, and they even started with him flat on his back, with both of them straddling him! He proceeded to throw BOTH of them all over the place. Let's get real...unless a woman is a total freak of nature, she is going to lose every time to the 'average' man. Again, I don't mean to be sexist or chauvenistic..I'm just being realistic. As an aside, my opinion may be affected by the fact that my friend's sister trained in karate, and was a big girl, about 5'11" and 160 pounds...she always told us how she could 'hold her own' against any man. Well, she didn't have the best taste in men and wound up with one who was a total loser and crackhead. And they got into it one night and I know she probably started some crap with him...he beat her literally to death, and witnesses who were there say he did it in about 5 seconds. I really hope that doesn't happen to any of the women on this thread because they are under the impression that they can 'hold their own' against a man. Some men are not chivalrous and are downright cowardly in that they would actually hit a woman. I think if a man physically hurts a woman intentionally, he isn't good for much, but conversely, women need to respect a man's physical ability to really hurt them. AndyJan 01 2008 1:20am Finally. Thank you, Andy, for adding a bit of realistic common sense here. ps - some of these stories describing women "pinning their husbands with muscular thighs" sound suspiciously like ghostwritten entries sent to Penthouse's "Letter of the Month" club. They're sounding a bit too lyrical to be taken seriously. EricJan 19 2008 7:20am Andy, men are the larger sex (on average) but not necessarally the stronger. There is plenty of research proving women have greater endurance and that includes muscular endurance. In studies carried out at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland, for example, 10 male and nine female strength athletes (powerlifters and body-builders) performed 20 maximal squat lifts, with three minutes of recovery between each lift. After the 20 lifts, the fatigued leg muscles of both males and females had lost about 20-24% of their maximal strength. However, various indicators of muscular power favoured the females. For one thing, the force-time curve an indicator of muscles ability to contract powerfully and quickly changed negatively by 28% in the males over the course of the workout but dropped by only 19% in the females. Females also recovered from the 20-lift session more quickly. One hour after the workout, female lifters leg muscles could generate about 92% as much force as before the session, whereas male muscles were just 79% as strong. Why was the fatigue greater and recovery slower in males? Part of the problem seemed to be that the male lifters nervous systems became less responsive over the course of the workout. From the first to the 20 lift, activation of leg muscles by nerve cells fell by 20-25% in males but held fairly steady in females. While its not clear why male nerve activation should deteriorate more quickly, it is clear that females lose less of their muscular power during heavy-duty resistance training and seem to recover more rapidly once a tough session is over. (Neuromuscular Fatigue and Recovery in Male and Female Athletes during Heavy Resistance Exercise, International Journal of Sports Medicine, vol. 14(2), pp. 53-59, 1993) just one example and this is most likely why so many average men are suprised by loosing to women... because it is nothing more than cultural beliefs that men are stronger, often based on being bigger. It's simply not the truth that they are always stronger. Often women who strength train become stronger than men their size in a very short time. AnonymousFeb 02 2008 10:34pm IT'S VERY SIMPLE. FOR MANY GENERATIONS BOYS HAVE RELIED ON THEIR NATURAL STRENGTH ONLY. NOT CARING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ABOUT WEIGHT TRAINING OR ANY TYPE OF TRAINING. AS A RESULT, THE FEMALE POPULATION HAS NOT ONLY CAUGHT UP,BUT HAS OUTPERFORMED MEN IN ALMOST EVERYTHING. THIS IS THE MANS FAULT. IF MEN WOULD DO THINGS WITH VENGANCE LIKE THE WOMEN DO, THE MEN WOULD BEGIN TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES. IF YOU GIRLS CONTINUE BEATING BOYS IN ALL THINGS, YOU MIGHT BE GOING TO THE SCHOOL PROM BY YOURSELVES. WOMEN ARE NOW DOING THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS ACCUSED MEN OF DOING.....ACTING TOUGH AND INDESTRUCTIBLE. MACHO WOMEN ARE A COMPLETE TURN-OFF. WOMEN SHOULD CEASE BEHAVING LIKE MEN;FLEXING THEIR MUSCLES AND TALKING AS IF THE WOMAN IS THE GREATEST THING GOD EVER CREATED. REMEMBER THIS FACT GIRLS,YOU CAN'T OUTDO MEN IN EVERYTHING. MASTONFeb 15 2008 12:42am This page os full of hypocresy. Just because usually women have to go through more painful sitautions than men (such as giving birth), that DOESN'T make them the stronger sex. Since they DON'T choose it. Now, everyone who just belives that women are physically stronger is just delusional. Just because there were a few cases of women outmatching men in strenght, that doesn't mean they're average cases. And men ARE the stronger sex since they are physically and emotionally stronger, PERIOD. SpideymFeb 15 2008 2:54pm There ISN'T a stronger sex. Each one has its advantages and disadvantages. But there days delusional feminazis insist so much in that they are the stronger sex just because men don't dare to say otherwise, or they will be called machist pigs. In other words, these days is ok to say that women are the stronger sex, but if you think the other way around, then you will be called a machist >_> Goes to show that the society is really broken. ESE150Feb 15 2008 3:01pm Can a woman really beat a man without hitting him in the nuts? I know they can. Women are not only stronger, more intelligent, but the ultimate advantage is they to no have balls. Dangling testicles hanging in a little bag, in front of their groin. a man with ballsFeb 15 2008 5:59pm Hi/woman are definetly the weaker sex/Im a 50 year old male /5' 7" tall /175 lbs fat and out of shape and I can still probably beat any woman on earth / if you want to prove me wrong my phone is 1(917)972-1270 /only wrestling /no boxing DalbertFeb 18 2008 8:10am I find it highly amusing that women are suddenly 'defeating' men all over the place. It always happens on a wrestling mat where a female bodybuilder beats a male (pissy whipped) wimp. We dont hear of women defeating men on the streets (criminals, rapists, murderers), battlefields and other fight to the death situations. Women always getting killed by rapists, murderers, robbers, muggers, assasins, rioters, husbands etc etc. And females have the nerve to claim they are the stronger sex. HAhahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahaha UGKMar 01 2008 10:14am can remember when I was thirteen years old and my parents bought me a set of weights. My 10 year old sister made a big deal out of it so my folks said she could use them too. She did, we both did and she became competitive about it. some time later I really noticed her muscles and sitting on our back porch she said I'll bet you I'm stronger than you now" I said "no way" but she held up her right arm and flexed and I got a shot of fear when I looked at her muscles and she asked to see mine and I had to show her. Her muscles were three times larger and we went in and looked at our shoulders and biceps in the mirror. She looked athletic and more musclular in her arms and shoulders next to me and her legs had become muscular. I also noticed she had became taller than me and I just staired at her big round muscles in her shoulders and arms that made mine look thin. I had never seen her flex and we usually did workouts at different times but she had become thick and I suspected it was muscle when I watched her lift weights sometimes but didn't really think. She later beat me easy at armwrestling in front of our parents as my dad had a look on his face I'll never forget and then showed her bicep to him. I could tell by his looks and the size of her muscle that he was shocked and my mom asked him to armwrestle her. He did have a look of apprehension and said "no no no let's not start that" and mom asked him to flex and my sister also and at that point I asked and began to wonder. My dad flexed and I really was surprised because his bicep was not bigger than my sister's who when she saw this put her arm next to his and flexed. Her muscles were really much bigger and more visible when contracted and mom grabed both biceps and sqweezed and said "her's is hard, it's harder than yours" and after begging him to armwrestle they finally did and at age 10 1/2 my sister very quickly put my dad's arm down. I was in awe and her muscles bulged bigger and she was smart about it and pulled her arm in tight near her shoulder. I can remember that her bicep swelled up like a ball and she held my dad in one place for a long time until he was tired. This really lasted for awhile and by the time his arm was moving, her arms had veins and the muscles were very visible and became bigger. My sister later wrestled me and put me in holds and teased me. To this day she is in very good condition and muscular and went on into sports in high sckool and collage. to this day I don't have muscles like hers. Her bicep at 11 years old measured 16 5/4 inches and I was 15 when we used our mom's cloth sewing tape and mine was only 8 1/4 inches after using those weights. I'm interested in strong women because of my sister. As embarrising as it is, I got an erection looking at her muscles but would hide it as best I could. She knew this though and would show me her muscles in my bedroom at night and ask if I liked looking at them. She would sit on the end of my bed and flex after she excercised and ask if I wanted her to leave, I really wouldn't and this became normal and I could see that she was developing more as she continued with those weights every night sometimes until late and than come to my bedroom and show me those muscles. I remember she loved to lift me and slam me down. she made me do all her chores for her regularly to this day she hadn't done any a personMar 03 2008 1:08pm can remember when I was thirteen years old and my parents bought me a set of weights. My 10 year old sister made a big deal out of it so my folks said she could use them too. She did, we both did and she became competitive about it. some time later I really noticed her muscles and sitting on our back porch she said I'll bet you I'm stronger than you now" I said "no way" but she held up her right arm and flexed and I got a shot of fear when I looked at her muscles and she asked to see mine and I had to show her. Her muscles were three times larger and we went in and looked at our shoulders and biceps in the mirror. She looked athletic and more musclular in her arms and shoulders next to me and her legs had become muscular. I also noticed she had became taller than me and I just staired at her big round muscles in her shoulders and arms that made mine look thin. I had never seen her flex and we usually did workouts at different times but she had become thick and I suspected it was muscle when I watched her lift weights sometimes but didn't really think. She later beat me easy at armwrestling in front of our parents as my dad had a look on his face I'll never forget and then showed her bicep to him. I could tell by his looks and the size of her muscle that he was shocked and my mom asked him to armwrestle her. He did have a look of apprehension and said "no no no let's not start that" and mom asked him to flex and my sister also and at that point I asked and began to wonder. My dad flexed and I really was surprised because his bicep was not bigger than my sister's who when she saw this put her arm next to his and flexed. Her muscles were really much bigger and more visible when contracted and mom grabed both biceps and sqweezed and said "her's is hard, it's harder than yours" and after begging him to armwrestle they finally did and at age 10 1/2 my sister very quickly put my dad's arm down. I was in awe and her muscles bulged bigger and she was smart about it and pulled her arm in tight near her shoulder. I can remember that her bicep swelled up like a ball and she held my dad in one place for a long time until he was tired. This really lasted for awhile and by the time his arm was moving, her arms had veins and the muscles were very visible and became bigger. My sister later wrestled me and put me in holds and teased me. To this day she is in very good condition and muscular and went on into sports in high sckool and collage. to this day I don't have muscles like hers. Her bicep at 11 years old measured 16 5/4 inches and I was 15 when we used our mom's cloth sewing tape and mine was only 8 1/4 inches after using those weights. I'm interested in strong women because of my sister. As embarrising as it is, I got an erection looking at her muscles but would hide it as best I could. She knew this though and would show me her muscles in my bedroom at night and ask if I liked looking at them. She would sit on the end of my bed and flex after she excercised and ask if I wanted her to leave, I really wouldn't and this became normal and I could see that she was developing more as she continued with those weights every night sometimes until late and than come to my bedroom and show me those muscles. I remember she loved to lift me and slam me down. she made me do all her chores for her regularly to this day she hadn't done any a personMar 03 2008 1:09pm i have an interesting story about me and my best friend (a girl). when we were in preschool and kidengarden we used to wrestle. I was two inches taller so i won most of the time. In fifth grade for some reason she got into bodybuilding and I tried to lose weight for TV (the camara adds ten pounds) by the time we were in seven grade i was a slim 88 pounds and she weighed almost 190 pounds- all muscle, when she flexed her arms went from like 14 inch to 16 inch. I was a mere 5 feet she became 6 feet 2 inches. One time she asked to wrestle and for some reason i thought ii would still win. I was dead wrong. when the match started she put me in a cradle like a baby after like about ten minutes she through me on the floor and put me in a scissor lock. after a while my body was immoblized and she started to bench me like a barabell. when we got into high school she was defently the strongest kid there of either gender. We are now at our junior year and are dating. she is 220 ibs all muscle and 6 foot 7 i am 5 foot 6 120 ibs. she is definetly stronger then any student or faculty member by a long shot. she can bench 340 ibs and trhe most she has lifted overhead was around 280 ibs but she did it so easily. The most amazing thing is when we were practicing for our track meet. we were both the fastest students in our grade. so we ran about 5 miles and i was so tired but she wanted to keep going and i said i couldn't so she picked me up and ran 10 mare miles without tireing! AnonymousMar 03 2008 1:34pm i have an interesting story about me and my best friend (a girl). when we were in preschool and kidengarden we used to wrestle. I was two inches taller so i won most of the time. In fifth grade for some reason she got into bodybuilding and I tried to lose weight for TV (the camara adds ten pounds) by the time we were in seven grade i was a slim 88 pounds and she weighed almost 190 pounds- all muscle, when she flexed her arms went from like 14 inch to 16 inch. I was a mere 5 feet she became 6 feet 2 inches. One time she asked to wrestle and for some reason i thought ii would still win. I was dead wrong. when the match started she put me in a cradle like a baby after like about ten minutes she through me on the floor and put me in a scissor lock. after a while my body was immoblized and she started to bench me like a barabell. when we got into high school she was defently the strongest kid there of either gender. We are now at our junior year and are dating. she is 220 ibs all muscle and 6 foot 7 i am 5 foot 6 120 ibs. she is definetly stronger then any student or faculty member by a long shot. she can bench 340 ibs and trhe most she has lifted overhead was around 280 ibs but she did it so easily. The most amazing thing is when we were practicing for our track meet. we were both the fastest students in our grade. so we ran about 5 miles and i was so tired but she wanted to keep going and i said i couldn't so she picked me up and ran 10 mare miles without tireing! AnonymousMar 03 2008 1:41pm The simple fact is this, men are the stronger sex by far. of course there are some freaks of nature who abuse steroids and probably have a clit that looks like a mini dick... but in the end the majority of women are weaker than the majority of men. end of story. themauler.Mar 05 2008 10:33pm "i have an interesting story " - you forgot to begin with "Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away..." not AnonymousMar 06 2008 7:00am Pound per pound, women are the stronger sex. The pain of child-birth would kill a man. Women can almost always out-run men. I prefer to hire young female loss-prevention officers over males, as they can catch shop-lifters better than males. I'd NEVER try to out-run a female security officer- I know I'd get caught! Females are better distance runners than males- this is a proven fact. Females are also much better balanced than males; they have a lower center of gravity. This gives them an advantage in wrestling and martial arts. There is still a "stigma" about guys losing to girls at anything. Time to get over it!! JimMar 06 2008 1:31pm I would like to fight a young girl in a kick-boxing or boxing match, until one of us is knocked out. She should be between the ages of 13-16, and good at it. Any takers? KenMar 07 2008 2:08pm a man with balls: Yeah, right. I'm sure you are a man, rather than a female in denial who can't face the truth. IDIOT. Jim: How the f*ck do you know that, when no man has ever had the oportunity to TRY IT? AnonymousMar 14 2008 2:35pm a man with balls: Yeah, right. I'm sure you are a man, rather than a female in denial who can't face the truth. IDIOT. Jim: How the f*ck do you know that, when no man has ever had the oportunity to TRY IT? AnonymousMar 14 2008 3:52pm Last week my husband and I had a discussion on this same subject. Naturally I said women are stronger he disagreed. So I said why don't we have a wrestling match and see. Now I am a bit larger than he is, but I thought it would be about even. So he agreed. I said I would invite my sister over to be the referee. He said for it to be fair he would wear a cup to protect his balls. I agreed but only one piece of clothing could be worn. So if he wears a cup thats all he would wear. He agreed. I would wear a one piece bathing suit. Well my sister arrived and seemed excited at what we were about to do. It did excited me some. So my husband and I went in to different rooms to change. I came out wearing a light blue french cut suit. It made my legs look very long. Soon my husband came out wearing his jock and cup. Both my sister and I laught at his nakedness. My sister told us one round and who ever gave up first would loose. Then she added a second round would follow with the looser wrestling naked. Other than that there were no rules. Anything goes. We began to wrestle and I knew after the first 10 minutes my husband was wearing down quickly. I let up to give him a chance to come back, and it worked. After about 20 minutes I decided enough and put him in a leg lock. He struggled but knew I had him. He finally said "I GIVE" My sister and I both cried with joy at the victory, while my husband laid on the floor. Finally he got up and said how strong I was. That was enough for me, I felt I had proven I was stronger. But my sister said he had to strip his cup and wrestle again naked. I said that was necessary, but she said you both agreed. My husband protested but he did agree. Slowly my husband stripped off his cup. I could not believe he was doing this. He stepped out of his jock, and handed it to my sisters. His c*ck and balls just hung. Now my husband is quite undeveloped with his dick, but does have a nice set of nuts. My sister and I were laughting so hard I had tears in my eyes. My husbands face had turned beat red. After several minutes we composed ourselves, and my sister said to start the next match. I have to say it was exciting seeing my husband naked in front of my sister wrestling me. Knowing I was much stronger than my husband and him knowing the humiliating he was facing had to prove to him I was right. After 10 minutes of wrestling I decided to take advantage of his vulnerability. With his balls dangling they were such a great target. I knew my sister and I knew this would be the best way to show females are superior. I waited till my sister had a good view forced his legs open and with my hand grabbed his balls. I slowly squeezed his nuts, he squeal. I felt such power over him. I continued to apply pressure till he passed out. I had heard that you can pop a mans balls but I did not want to cause him a permanent damage. After all he is my husband. My sister was yelling saying I was the stronger sex. I got up and we both looked at my husband laying totally naked passed out on the floor. His opened legs showed his red nut sack just laying down between his thighs. I will never forget that moment. Then my sister and I quickly revised him. Within seconds he was awake, but knew the damaged I had caused. We took him to a bed and applied ice to his red swollen ball sack. He told me his balls hurt him for several days after that beating he took. When my sister stops by he is a meek little lamb. We kid him about just how weak men are, naturally he agrees. I don"t think he will ever disagree about how powerful a female is. The power I have over him now is wonderful. Females are the most powerful sex. JUST ANOTHER HOUSEWIFE,,,,, NOT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!Mar 16 2008 9:04am To Housewife: Your story is so true. I have been married for 13 years and I regularly wrestling with my husband. The first few times we wrestled he just wore shorts. But he soon found out just how delicate his balls were. Men have upper body strenth, but women have far superior lower body strenth. Most men say hitting below the belt is not fair, their precious balls should be excluded. But its OK to hit or grab a womens breasts. When female wrestles males there are no rules. If a man can not protect his tender balls, well "GRAB THEM LADIES". Its his problem. So to all you cry baby males out there, if you value your "balls" don"t mess with a female. Its your weakness not ours. Maybe thats why you have them dangling between your legs, so we ladies can show you whos BOSS. KARENMar 16 2008 12:19pm YES LADIES you are right our balls make us the weaker sex. So maybe all males should be castrated at birth, then only our tiny pee pees would hang down. davidMar 17 2008 8:02am My girlfriend proved to me who was the stronger sex. I kept challenging her to a wrestling match and, finally, one day she agreed. We wrestled on the floor in an empty bedroom. I never knew she had skill as a wrestler from when she was in college. She took me down with no trouble and for over 45 minutes she put me through one hold after another. She made me submit again and again. When I would tap out she would release me but before I could get up she would grab me and put me in another hold and play with me, humiliating me. She made me beg her to stop. By this time I was only too glad to. She turned me over on my stomach and sat on my shoulders and wrapped her strong legs around my middle pinning my arms to my sides. I couldn't move. I had no leverage. She then took my pants off. She started to slowly spank my butt with both hands, alternating between each one. I kicked and screamed but she wouldn't stop. My butt was stinging like it was on fire. Eventually, I started to cry. I couldn't help it. I sobbed and sobbed like a child. She finally let me up. I never challenged her again nor did I mess with her. She taught me a lesson I've never forgotten. Women are definitely the stronger and cleverest sex. AnonymousMar 22 2008 5:30pm I have a similar story to Anonymous although I don't agree to his last comment that women are stronger and more clever. Our kids were with their grandparents one weekend and the idea of wrestling came up one evening when we had been drinking some wine. My wife has been a tomboy and has an athletic background, she is still working out frequently. I am not that athletic and only a bit bigger then my wife. We decided to wrestle best out of 10 falls, submission or pinned with a count to five would make one point. I was surprised how aggressive my wife was and she had me pinned under her before I could really understand how. She just threw me on the floor and pinned me. Gf 1 Bf 0. The next round I tried to take her down attacking her legs. She just parted her legs and forced my head between her thighs and then started to squeeze. I tried to free myself, she took us both down to the floor with my head still between her legs, I fought with everything I had and my strength just faded away. After playing with me for some minutes she squeezed harder and I had to give. Gf 2 Bf 0. After these two falls she played with me and used me as a dummy, she threw me around, put me intoe different holds and when she had 10 falls to nothing I was so tired that I couldn't move at all. She then surprised my by taking my clothes off and took me almost like she was raping me. This went on for about 2 hours. After this evevning many things have changed. She always wants to have sex her way and if I say no she just forces me. I am not sure I like this, one part is enjoying the sex (a lot more frequent than before) but another part of me feels humiliated. Out wrestledMar 27 2008 3:19am Looks like some folks on this board are exercising their creative writing muscles. Fiction can be fun! EricMar 30 2008 8:29am the answer to this question can be found in the olympic records. sorry ladies... mattApr 10 2008 11:51am the answer to this question can be found in the olympic records. sorry ladies... mattApr 10 2008 11:52am In general terms - on the average - men are stronger. But this is a general statement and of course many ladies can beat up many men. In addition we have our weakness between our legs. A short example. My adorable girlfriend is as strong as I am (and sometimes we wrestle with great fun).....and one day we were getting out of a hotel room and I got the keys and said "I'm keeping the keys since I am the man". I said that to her in a challenge/playful kind of mood. She was as fast as a lightning: she grabbed my balls in a split second and I immediately knew she had won. "Who's the man?" she asked. "You are the man" I answered immediately giving her the keys in a clear sign of surrender. Meanwhile she continued holding my balls and my c*ck became hard. She made me submit. Then she undressed me and she f*cked me clearly showing me who is the dominant between us. And, honestly, I enjoyed all of it. MarcoApr 25 2008 5:50am In general terms - on the average - men are stronger. But this is a general statement and of course many ladies can beat up many men. In addition we have our weakness between our legs. A short example. My adorable girlfriend is as strong as I am (and sometimes we wrestle with great fun).....and one day we were getting out of a hotel room and I got the keys and said "I'm keeping the keys since I am the man". I said that to her in a challenge/playful kind of mood. She was as fast as a lightning: she grabbed my balls in a split second and I immediately knew she had won. "Who's the man?" she asked. "You are the man" I answered immediately giving her the keys in a clear sign of surrender. Meanwhile she continued holding my balls and my c*ck became hard. She made me submit. Then she undressed me and she f*cked me clearly showing me who is the dominant between us. And, honestly, I enjoyed all of it. MarcoApr 25 2008 6:07am Marco: All what that proves is that according to the society, girls are allowed to exploit out weaknesses but not so the other way around (if a man punched a girl in the breasts, then there would be a scandal; if a girl kick a man in the nuts, everyone will just laugh). In other words, all what your example proved is that women have an unfair advantage just because it isn't allowed to hit a woman, when that rule should be aplied to both genders (females shouldn't be allowed to hit guys). SHPMay 03 2008 11:52am SHP is SO right! If I were Marco, I would: 1.Be ashamed about the fact that I'm as strong as my gf. 2.NOT post about enjoying the fact that my gf was the dominant one. Seriously, haven't you got any main pride??? 3.Excercise myself to surpass her strenght level. THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. 4.Tell her to STOP exploiting the advantage she gets because of the rule "guys can't hit girls" or else I would dump her. Even if she did it joking. silverMay 03 2008 2:24pm TRUE. Marco: GROW SOME BALLS!!! SpideymMay 03 2008 2:33pm Common logic is if you are a male who is under 120 lbs(which would make up 1% of the adult male population), a large pool of women are going to be stronger. Some of those alot stronger. What is alot stronger? Well thats the average strength gap between an average man and woman. Now if you are an average sized guy 170 lbs or more, (which is 80 percent of the male population) you arent going to find a woman stronger unless she is steroid freak bodybuilder. And if you are into women like that, then you must be gay. Sorry to say that, but the truth must be told AnonymousMay 08 2008 7:13am I am a 150 lbs man, slim and rather fit. My wife is about 150 lbs as well and 4 inches shorter than me. She has always been strong, genetically and from working out. She is today a lot stronger than me, she can lift her own body weight for many reps, 3x15 and she can max 190 lbs in the bench. Now my body type is totally different, she tells me that she envies my slim body. I envy her muscles and strength. A good day I can bench 80 lbs, this makes my wife more than twice as strong as me. 80 lbs she can lift for many many reps. It's just the way it is. I am working out twice a week at a gym, my wife three times. She builds muscle and gains weight I am getting thinner and harder and only a bit stronger. My wife's sister is stronger than my wife, she is also bigger. Their mother is probably stronger than me as well, even if she is 62 years old. The mother's sister is a big strong lady of 57. So women can be strong and more often than people think stronger than their men. I have no problem being weaker, kind of enjoy it since we are wrestling a lot, I always loose but get the best sex you can imagine after our matches. Why complain? My wife enjoys being stronger and she tells me she is stronger than all the guys at her office. Slimmer than mostMay 09 2008 2:00am I kind of like men like Slimmer than most. Being open about being weaker than your wife is rather brave. I like the idea of being stronger than my husband, and to be honest I think I am. BUT I think he would leave me if he found out that his wife could beat his butt in a wrestling match. I am quite a bit heavier than my husband and when we are making love I can just move him around the way I want him. He hates it when I lift him, I love to lift him but he feels embarrassed, even if we are alone at home. There must be more women that enjoys being the stronger partner. I never have to feel scared that my husband should beat me up. It feels great to know that, that I can probably beat him up with one arm behind my back. I would never hit him unless he hit me first though. So how do I get him to like me being physically dominant? I love him and don't want to scare him away. AliceMay 09 2008 2:06am "alice", you make playdough of him in bed and he still cant belive you can kick his butt? Something is wrong with the story here... AnonymousMay 09 2008 4:26am when a man is stronger than his spouse, for the most part he is a gentleman. But if the female is stronger, she becomes a monstser. Some of the tales on this thread are horrifying. I believe God made the male race stronger for a reason. If the females were stronger, there wouldnt be any men. They would have ahnilliated us from the face of the earth, hence the death of the human race. AnonymousMay 11 2008 3:15pm Many men have difficulties to believe they can be weaker than a woman, and it's even more difficult when it comes to your own wife. I think that most men that me and my husband know would be very surprised if they knew I was the stronger partner. And most women as well to be honest. In our culture women are supposed to be weaker and need help from their strong men. Just go to a big gym and look at the weaker men and compare with the stronger women, some women are easily twice as strong as the weak men. So Anonymous that think there is something strange with the story, I never force my husband to anything in bed but you are right, he should realize that he is weaker. Perhaps he does deep inside. I think we need to "come out" about this. LiaceMay 15 2008 4:42am I am strong but not so good to write as you can see, Liace is of course Alice AliceMay 15 2008 4:43am I am twice as strong as my husband. I work out alot, and just alot bigger than he. What anonymous said might be correct. I selected my husband for that reason. I DO have dark fantasies. And knowing what I am capable of, and what I could do to him gives me a huge rush. Being the strong one is very erotic for me. WOuld I ever carry out my dark fanasies? Not unless he hits me anger. But he isnt stupid, so that wont happen. But I still will have an active imagination. and a woman being ina unique postion of being the physically dominant partner. Being this much stronger than a man, and who is completely helpless is just exciting. Yes it is perverse, but men fantasizing about getting beaten up a bigger woman is the same thing. Am I monster? Well lol..... WendyMay 18 2008 2:12pm My wife is very strong. Although I outweigh her by 30lbs., she can outwrestle and pin or submit me at will. She is very flexible with strong cheerleader legs and extreme stamina. I am sure that in a real knock down drag out fight that I would win, but in a wrestling match, she owns me. diggyMay 18 2008 9:19pm Once my husband wanted to "play wrestle" with me. Although I was not familiar with any holds at the time, he was very surprised with my strength and stamina. After about thirty minutes he began to tire and I took advantage of his weakend state. He was so surprised that I could hold him down in a schoolboy pin that when I let him up he stormed out of the room and pouted for two days. This feeling of dominance excited me and I felt empowered. Having always been active, a jogger, biker, and hiker, I knew I had a strong body. Over the next few days, I researched wrestling holds on the internet and learned the basics from "wrestling holds gallery". About a week later my husband wanted a rematch and I said sure, why not. He started out like a man posessed, determined to prove his superiority once and for all. He was too eager though and I used a hip toss when he lunged at me to take him to the floor. Immediately, I locked on a grapevine hold with my full weight holding down his wrists. He was once again at my mercy. He held on for about 3 or 4 minutes but my leg split was too much for his hamstrings and hips. He asked for mercy, but I held on a little longer and told him if he wanted me to let him up and stop the pain, that he would have to admit that I was stronger and the better wrestler. He admitted that to me and begged me to let him up. To this day, he never has challenged me again and our relationship is excellent. DebbieMay 18 2008 9:45pm Wow! I love this thread and it really hits home for me. A big, strong lady here.5`10 185 lbs my husband is only 5`5 and 118lbs, as I have always wanted it. I love to be physically powerful, and am attracted to smaller men. However, we have been married for just over a year and he has not received his beating yet. So, I wait,,, waiting for him to step out of line. When that happens, I will tear into him like a lion. Once he knows what can happen when deviating into the traditional male ways, he will be a compliant husband and serve me well. My sister is my size and has a small husband, and my friends(coven sisters) do also. All of their husbands, had the "beating", and their relationships are perfect. My husband is good, but he still is in denial on his role, and who is in control. Its so funny, because he is so little, and yet strutting those spindly legs around the house like a general. He almost reminds me of Little Red Riding Hood. I guess that makes me the wolf -- I see nothing wrong with that rofl! But once he is in awe of my power, he will wake up and be MY husband. He plans on going out this weekend to the lake. I am sure there is drinking(and I dont drink). Once discover that fact, that will be my cue and make my move. Alice your husband needs the beating. You will just have to wait for that right cue. But knowing traditional men, he will fall out of line. And sister, You shouldnt worry about him leaving you, to the contrary, he will be in awe of you AmayiaMay 19 2008 7:06am So there is no confusion. A beating is just that, -- a beating! You dont want serious injuries, but you cant hold back. therefore its technique. But Its a beating. And yes, it could be some bruises;etc. But that will be his one and only beating, and he will be mine for life. AmayiaMay 19 2008 7:26am great story debbie, do you still wrestle with you hubby? or was this a one timer? diggyMay 20 2008 8:46pm Wendy, you are not a monster. I live with a woman that is both bigger and stronger than me. She admitted at an early stage in our relationship that she had a thing for smaller men and that she enjoyed being stronger. She had tried bigger and stronger men but these relationships never worked out. Your fantasies are not dark at all as long as you don't abuse your partner. Playwrestle with him, pin him and than make love to him, he will find this combination a bit strange at first but at the end he will enjoy loosing to you since he knows what's in store for him once he is "conquered". This happened to me, I will never forget the first evening with my girlfriend.We started to make out and everything was going "my way" until she just stopped me and showed me what she was made of. She wrestled me down and dominated me in a fantastic way and I was hooked. Never had any fantasies about stronger women until I met this strong lady. WillMay 21 2008 11:42pm I am 6 feet and about 175 lbs, my wife is 5'9 and 170 lbs. We are both in our late 40's. About a year ago we ended up in bed playwrestling for the first time for 25 years. We were both surprised that I was no match for my wife's strength. Her arms and shoulers seemed to be a lot stronger then mine and her legs are huge and one of her legs is stronger than both mine put together. She had me pinned within a minute. She didn't believe I was giving everything so we had another match. She was now more confident and had me pinned within seconds. There was just nothing I could do about it. She now realized that she was not only stronger than me but a lot stronger and she could do just what she wanted with me. We kept on wrestling for an hour before she "took me" sexually. The day after I felt embarrassed and ashamed being this weak. My wife was in a great mood and smiled at me flexing her muscles. The night after she wanted to wrestle again, and the night after that and again and again. She was full of new self confidence. And I actually started to like being weaker than her. She is a very friendly person but she just loved to tease me about being so weak. We also armwrestled, I knew some technique but she won anyway, even if she had never armwrestled before. Her shoulder muscles are very impressive so she could just hold my arm without using much of her power at all. She joined a gym, started to lift heavy weights and her muscles grew. I love her new big muscles and she loves to be bigger than me (well I am 5 pounds heavier but she is bigger all over). And we both enjoy to read the postings here. Wendy tell us more, have you wrestled your husband? CurtMay 21 2008 11:56pm Diggy, yes we do wrestle now, but he doesn't challenge me and he stays away from my legs when he can. Most of the time I control the pace and the action. It has become my favorite form of foreplay. I love to use the grapevine and force him to my will. Last night, he managed to get on top of me but I still trapped his legs in my upside-down grapevine and forced him to submit to me again. This is becoming so much fun for me, but humiliating and painful for him. By the way he is 5'10 170lbs. and I am 5'7. 140lbs. I love the grapevine, so effective for a flexible, strong leg woman.... DebbieMay 23 2008 12:11am Does your husband have stronger arms than you Debbie? I know that women's legs can be very strong but men generally have stronger arms. CurtMay 23 2008 3:55am Amayia, you go girl~~~!!! AnonymousMay 23 2008 6:27am Curt, yes he does, but I am very flexible and most of the time he is ineffective. I probably win 70% of the time. He does occasionally get lucky and get the upper hand, but I am getting better and better..... debbieMay 23 2008 9:48pm Debbie, Amalyia,Alice and Wendy. You are all women to my heart. You represent the future of this world.So therefore, there is hope.So sisters! Take charge! Keep independent! And keep getting stronger and happier. Most of all, make sure he is good to you and serves you well. SabrinaMay 24 2008 6:07am I will challenge any woman for wrestling...I will teach you a lesson, woman must be in the kitchen, cleaning or providing sexual pleasure. You wearing panties and skirts and must sit down every time you need to use the bathroom...Weak girls, anyone not affraid to show me what you can do (laughing)...if you can...(laughing) Big BallsMay 27 2008 11:12am I will challenge any woman for wrestling...I will teach you a lesson, woman must be in the kitchen, cleaning or providing sexual pleasure. You wearing panties and skirts and must sit down every time you need to use the bathroom...Weak girls, anyone not affraid to show me what you can do (laughing)...if you can...(laughing) Big BallsMay 27 2008 11:18am Woman are as strong or stronger then men pound for pound. Think about it the legs of a woman are made for holding children and diffrent things for long periods. A man gets tired faster. So a woman has more stamina, stronger legs and more flexible. And now because of gyms and health clubs they can build their upperbody as good or better then a mans. So yes I believe they are the stronger sex. steveoMay 29 2008 4:02pm I'm a 22y old girl from sweden, and it have been interesting to read all the stories here. I think here is sweden it's heading the same trend as in Japan, the girl ideal is sporty, strong and incharge and the girls wants the guys to be slim, cute and not having too much muscles. I remebered when the swedish gladiators show was on, everybody on my school thought the male gladiators was gross and having too much muscles, but it was cool with the female gladiators muscle. I know everyone in our little "girlgang" prefer slim bodies on guys and not the buff gymguys. Nowdays when we go out on nighclubs we always chase the cute and "weak" guys, i think they are sexier somehow. The last two guys i had been to bed with, have been slim musician in my age, with slim arms and legs. I was clearly stronger phyicly than both of them, and i could easily take control of them and be in "charge", and i think both me and them loved it. I talked to my best frinds about it, and they thinks it cool and also prefer their guys to be weaker, or at least not much stronger then themself. They say it's both safer and you can have more fun with them (i'm not telling what they like to do to cute guys ;-0 ) I also notice that the guys with big muscles are getting jelous at smaller guys, since they seems to get girls much easier. I talked to an ex. classfriend of mine, and he said he had stopped training at gym a year ago, since girls had told him he had too much muscle. I told him of course he looked better now then he was smaller (of course ;-) ). I dont say everyone in sweden prefer smaller guys, but it's definatly an big trend among girls in my age. And then i get a serious boyfriend, i'm pretty sure he will be weaker than me. PS. I lift more than 2 of three guys in my bodypump-class, and they are around 30 years. Not bad, huh? (if they wasn't engaged both of them (grrr), i would invite them home, hehe ;-) ) /kattisMay 30 2008 4:32am Is it truth what in Sweden most males forced by women to sit down in toilet??? I think I should come to sweden and put females on a proper place where you belong! Big BallsMay 30 2008 9:43am Big Balls, Small Brain.... debMay 31 2008 7:02pm Men in Sweden piss on guys like Big Balls AnonymousJun 01 2008 2:20am To big balls "Is it truth what in Sweden most males forced by women to sit down in toilet??? """"" Only if they are doing the "other" thing... ;-) "I think I should come to sweden and put females on a proper place where you belong!"""""""" I think you would be stunned by the beatiful, independent and strong swedish females, and fall in love in just a few days. (this happens all guys who visits sweden ;-) ) But to get them interested in you, you have to grow up... /KattisJun 02 2008 1:41am Hi Kattis. I read your post and think you have some good points. I am middleaged myself, but have seen some changes in my school over the last years, to confirm your trend. The school I work in is a rather small school in Sweden, grade 1-9, with less than 200 students. There have been a few "incidents" the last year about strong girls. In one grade 8 class, a girl can beat all the boys in armwrestling. She has also challenge three male teachers and won over two of them. The one who won is a very big guy, the two who lost have average build. And we had a fight in the middle of the schoolyard, with ended with an 8-grade girl (not the same girl as above) pinning down and slapping a humiliated 9-grade guy who couldn't get loose. And this spring, the grade 9 girls won aver the boys on both football and brannball (baseball) in their annual battle before they end school. It's the first time the girls have won the footballmatch, before the guys always won easily, but the last few years it have been more close, and this year the girls actually won. I would also say that almost every girl on school is involved in some sort of sport, football, riding, judo, track and field and so on. And I would say less than half of the guys do the same. Many of the guys are just sitting in front of a computer or videogame when the school ends, and are clearly more unfit or skinny than boys where few years ago. I have also notice the girls are more confident and bossy around the boys than before. The footballs girls are not shy about their stung legs, as they often where before and often compare them next to skinny guys and tease them about it. This spring I also saw a few girls compare arm muscles to a few "cool" guys and the girls was about even with them. 10 years ago you would never seen things like that. I would say there has been a definitive change in power between the girls and boys over the last few years in this school. The girls are not afraid anymore to train their strength or show off their strength. I think one part of the explanation is that athletes like Sussanna Kallur, Kluft, Anja Persson is very popular, and they are muscular and strong. I have more examples from my school, but it would take too long... Blue nun PS Ignore "Big balls" kattis Blue NunJun 02 2008 4:35am I am probably an average sized male. I am 21 years old, 186cm tall and weight 73-75kg. I don't work out too much and I am probably more on the skinny side. I have for some strange reason always been fascinated by strong females. I think it started when I was very young. I recall that I was out during a summerday when I watched some friends armwrestle. When I went over I saw that there was a girl in the crowd. To make a long story short I ended up armwrestling her and I was beat badly two times which was extremely shameful. She was 1 year older than I was but I was an extremely strong kid when I was little so all the friends who were watching thought I would win, which enhanced the embarassement. Her biceps were so much bigger than mine and even though I have excellent technique at armwrestling I couldn't even more her hand. Anyway, since this day I have not met any girl who has been even close to beating me. Maybe because I haven't challenged too many, but also because I just haven't encountered that many athletic and strong females. I am from Sweden so I am wondering where Blue Nun and kattis find them. I do not doubt that they exist but I think they are scarce. Would love to go a round against you kattis if you think you would have a chance. How big are you (height/weight)? And have you practised any martial arts? olaJun 02 2008 3:11pm Hello kattis. Don't mess with swedish girls LOL Funny to read about you and swedeish girls here, caurse today there is big news here in Paris about a seial rapist who got caught last night. This guy, 31 y old french, attacked a 22y swedish girl last night. He sneaked up behind her and grabbed her and got his hands under her skirt. But she defended herself well and got lose. The rapist attacked her again but she defended herself good with fists and kicks and screamed to get attention. The man gave up and tried to run away, but followed and alamed a few people on the street, who stopped and chased the man down and held him there until the police came. The police found both knives and handcuffs in the man pockets. He confessed beeing guilty of over 30 assult rapes in Paris. The prosecutor Isabelle Montagne was very pleased they had finally manage to capture this serial rapist and was impressed by the young swedish woman and told the papers: "- She was really brave and gave him a very hard resistance." I guess he did the big mistake to attack a young fit swedish woman, LOL. BTW i think strong girls are very cool and you are welcome to France and see if you can handle a 170cm, 62kg french guy (me) ;-) Paris, FranceJun 03 2008 5:22am Hi Ola. You don't ask a girl of her weight ;-). But i'm about 174cm and around 70kg. I think your 186 is pretty tall. You wonder where to find athletic girls??? At least in my town there is no truble finding them, just go to a gym or to a sportsclub, its crowded with fit girls. I can maybe recommend go to a bodypump-pass, there is mostly girls training and they appreciate to have a guy training with them, especially a newbie ;-) I haven't practised any martial arts, exept for some funwrestling with my boyfriends (guess who won ;-) ) , but i haven't done any real training. Recently i been training climbing (most my girl friend climb also) and some bodypump. Before i did mostly riding and soccer. You are tall, but if you don't work out too much, as you say, i would guess that i would be able to pin you also if i wanted. My arms are pretty strong now from climbing. It's fun to read that you are fascinated by strong females, i have noticed most guys are even if they don't admit it out loud. For example, my arms are curvy and you don't see much muscle when relaxed. But when i for example put up my hair in front of the mirror, you can see my armmuscles clearly. I have discovered this is a great way to get guys attention, putting up and working with my hair in pubs and clubs in front of guys, sleeveless, i always get their full attention. One guy in my course even wanted to feel my muscle after i did it in front of him. LOL, guys are funny, but i like it since i want to be strong. To Blue Nun. Interesting story, i wasn't that forward when i was in their age (h?gstadiet), but i'm better now ;-) And to Paris. Hmm, i read about that story today in the newspaper. Thats one reason for a girl to train. Good girl and i hope they lock him up for good this time. /KattisJun 03 2008 6:51am Hi Kattis. I will try that out and see if I can find any fit girl where I'm from (sundsvall). Body-pump is when you are following an instructor and everyone is doing the same thing? I imagine the difficult and embarassing part is to approach a strong girl. I am not the kind of guy who would ask if I could feel someone's muscles especially not a girl's. And I suspect all the girls would not take it as lightly as you seem to. If you are 70kg I'm guessing I would probably have you beat, despite the fact that i'm not too muscular. Interesting to hear that you have strong arms cause I would think that the legs are usually the part where girls can be strong in. How big are the boyfriends you have wrestled? How did you come about to wrestle them and how did they take it to get pinned? olaJun 03 2008 12:05pm Last time I was wrestling a female my size and my weight plus she was older than me...I put her into submission within a few minutes. Females stronger sex, what you all on about? Big BallsJun 03 2008 5:40pm I think the reason I am single at 38 is that I am into bigger, stronger women than myself. Theyre out there, but most arent interested in smaller men. So /kattish women like you are refreshing. so where can I go where I might find women like yourself? Im in the states and willing to travel btw. a guyJun 04 2008 8:56am Hi Ola. You say "If you are 70kg I'm guessing I would probably have you beat, despite the fact that i'm not too muscular." I wouldn?t be too sure of that. You weight just e few kg more, and is much taller than me, so you are absolutly skinnier than me. And your weight doesn't tell how much muscle you have, most people lose weight and gain strength when they start to train. One guy at my course is almost 90 kg, and I beat him pretty easy in armwrestling. "How big are the boyfriends you have wrestled? How did you come about to wrestle them and how did they take it to get pinned?" Well, the first was a little taller but slim and lighter than me, I guess around 65kg. We dated almost a year. Since I?m pretty physical, we often fooled around, and wrestled for fun. I noticed I could hold him down and dared him to escape, and he couldn't. He always said he was going light on me and would have no trouble to win if we go all out. One day I became annoyed by his talk of he could beat me if he wanted to, and dared him to wrestle to see who would really win. I guess it was a big surprise for both of us, when I managed to pin him several times without much trouble and I could feel I was clearly stronger. He also admitted to me I was stronger. He was embarrassed, but loved it at the same time, if you know what I mean. I didn't want me to tell anyone about this, but he liked our tussles. Almost every time we met alone he picked a fight with me who ended up with me overpowering and pinning him (and often more action after that...). We broke up when he moved to live abroad. I guess I have gotten used to be in charge of a guy physically, and now when I flirt I go for smaller guys. The second guy I was talking about, I met at a club. He was a good musician, short, slim and cute. He was shorter than me, under 170 cm. It was me who flirted, and when dancing I felt up his slim body and I knew I wanted him. He was drunk and I was drunk. I actually asked him if he wanted to go a match against me in my place, and he agreed. I took him home, got down in our underwear and to my joy was he no match for me and I could take him down and pin him in many ways even if he resisted, before I had my way with him. He was extremely turned on, and totally fascinated by my strength and aggressiveness, and told me so many times. I had a little guilty conscience the day after, since we where both drunk. But he contacted me the next weekend, and wanted a rematch, and it was even more enjoyable than the first ;-) I haven't seen the guy after that, but I have heard he has left the town :-( I guess I have to find a new victim... My friends in my "girlgang" love to hear those stories, and they have also stories to tell, I hope they write some here soon. One friend, Tess, have a steady boyfriend since 5 year, and after she bagan climbing she is stronger than him also. It's not that uncommon now. /kattisJun 05 2008 1:13am Hi Kattis! Fun to read your reply. And I hate to admit that I would have enjoyed being that guy you met in the club. I am most definately skinnier than you and perhaps you are even right that you would pin me even though I think it would be very even. My endurance is probably what would drag me down since my strength usually wears of quite quickly when I do physical activities. K?nns lite dumt att snacka engelska n?r vi egentligen kunde prata svenska. Om du ville skulle du alltid kunna ta min epost: svensson_o@yahoo.se olaJun 05 2008 5:25am a guy! It depends on how smallish you really are. But usually a gym. Let them come to you though.Also keep in mind, the girl may approach you for a shoving match. Dont run away, engage her and play the game.Expect some bruises, but if you are positive and fun loving, she is yours forever. Strong women love smaller men who are funny and have confidence in themselves.However, let them make the first approach and be prepared for the element of suprise. Have fun AnonymousJun 05 2008 6:20am Let me add, strong women flirt with smaller guys by beating them up and talking sh$t.Keep that in mind. so just let loose and have fun AnonymousJun 05 2008 6:25am Snackar vi svenska s? blir kanske de andra sura h?r ;-) /KattisJun 06 2008 1:57pm If you insist. What would be a lift for this poll would of course be if you and I met and had a tussle to see if there is any truth behind this. And we could write about it here. Taking that you would win, which I doubt ;), it would make a great story. It would probably be one of the most strange experiences in my life, but quite fun also. What do you say? olaJun 07 2008 12:40am Grab her tits give her good kick between the legs and she is sorted... Thats how I like to win... Big BallsJun 10 2008 12:24pm Ladies, rape is illegal. geeezerJun 11 2008 6:39am My earliest wrestling encounters were with a neighbor girl who was taller and heavier than me, and she mostly dominated every time we wrestled. We ran in different circles in high school, but reconnected after college and hung out together quite a bit. She had slimmed down a bit, but was still a little taller and heavier than me. One night after we had been out to a club we started making out at her apartment and she suddenly rolled on top and straddled me, then said she was pretty sure she could still beat me. I wasn't sure if I could beat her, but I was kind of drunk and was hoping to get her into bed, so I quickly agreed and we pulled a mattress off the bed and faced off. I figured we'd roll around and she might actually win, but it was a complete mismatch and I was embarrassed at how quickly she was able to fold me into a cradle pin. It got worse when her roommate came home and wanted to see us wrestle some more, because Margaret really had fun, putting me across her shoulders and doing an airplan spin, then doing a couple of body slams. Despite the embarrassment of losing, I continued to wrestle Margaret whenever we got together, but sadly that ended when she was diagnosed with leukemia and passed away at age 24. PinnedB4Jun 19 2008 2:54pm Despite losing badly to Margaret, I didn't lose to her roommate when we wrestled. She assumed that since Margaret seemed to have such an easy time pinning me that she would too. We wrestled to a mutual draw the first time and I had to admit she was a lot stronger than I had figured, but I was ready for her when we did the rematch and was able to force a submission after a long, closely contested match. PinnedB4Jun 19 2008 3:36pm Bust her c*nt, put her into submission and make her swallow....! Big BallsJun 21 2008 6:55am Hi all. You wanted more info, andI told you before there is two guys around 30y in my bodypump-class, and i now lift more than both of them. Unfortunally both of them have girlfriends. The first one is funny, he and his girlfriend always train bodypump together, and they always stand next to each other and ALWAYS have the exact same weights on the bar in all exercises. They have also the same colour on their clothes, LOL.-------- The other guy is really good looking, but I have heard he have a girlfriend. I usually place myself behind him in our bodypump-class, so I have a good view on him while training. I don't know why, but I enjoy watching him struggling with lesser weights than I use. When I do good reps with heavier weights, it's a confirmation of my girl body is stronger than his male body, even if he is an handsome adult guy 10 years older than me, and I enjoy the feeling. I have tried to talk to him after the class, but he seemed to be a bit shy. I told him he had a slim and fit body, and he laughed and said thank you, and seemed to like my compliment, as loosen up towards me and the last weeks he is always saying hello and do some small talk to me before the class. Maybe I?m getting somewhere ;-) /KattisJun 23 2008 2:41am Kattis, go for him, buy him a cup of coffee and ask him if he would like to work out with you in the gym, you need a spotter. He will be in awe of your stronger physique I can imagine. A shy man can be the best you can get. Is he aware of that you are stronger than him? I met my husband at the gym, I helped him with the machines, he was really shy but loosened up and he actually found it natural that I was stronger than him since I am bigger and had been working out for a long time. AminaJun 23 2008 7:57am Good news about the bodypump-guy, Amina. We smalltalked before the pass and I asked him about his girlfriend. He was surprised by the question, but anwsered that they broke up a few month ago and he was single now. A said that a guy like him must have many girls chasing him now, and he almost blushed and laughed, and said he dind't know anything about that. Then tha pass started a placed myself in front of him this time, and everytime i looked at him in the mirrors i could see he was studying me. Everytime we changed wheights during pass, i turned back to him and we both smiled. One time he told me "Damn, you are really good att this." I had heavier wheights during all excersices, and one time i saw him put on my wheight on one excercise, but he failed after just a few bad reps and had to put off some wheights. I flirted with him openly during pass, and he seemed to get nevous about it even of i could see he enjoyed it also. I'm a bit surprised i can get him nevous like this since he is almost 10 years older than me. After the pass, i had changed and saw him talking to another guy, I told him bye Peter and see you here on friday again, and he was very friendly against me and said we will meet on friday here. I could see how he followed me when i went away on my bike. LOL, i think his interesed. I have to plan my next move. Your suggestion Amina may be good, but the only problem is i dont work out in the gym myself, i only do bodypump, climbing and use some free weight at home (this gym is expensive for me right now). We'll see what will happen, i'll keep you updated ;-) PS thomas. The couple who wear the same colored clothes seems to have exactly same strenght. It's hard to tell if one holds back to please the other, but it don't seems so. They always do things together, read the same books and we call them the siamese twins (even if he has black hair and she is blonde). Their clothes have diffrent colors, gray, red, but always same color and same brand togheter. /KattisJun 26 2008 5:20am Hi all. I have promised my friend kattis to write something here on topic, so here we go. I can describe myself first, I?m 21 y old, and have always been the "bad girl" among my girlfriends, doing crazy stuff, love to party late, having tattoos, some piercing, love kinky stuff, getting boyfriends very early and so on. Despite this I have a steady boyfriend since almost 4 years now, and I am actually the only girl with a steady boyfriend in our "girlgang". My boyfriend is same age as me, are also some kind of bad boy, with long hair and many tattoos. I must say I share Kattis taste in guy, I like guys who are slim, "boyish" and not too muscular. I must say my boyfriend fit that description pretty good, pretty light with slim arm and legs. He was still stronger than me, course I wasn't very strong and didn't train anything except guitar... Anyway, two years ago I moved to this town to study, and met Kattis and the other girls. They where climbing and I started also, and soon found out I was pretty good at it. It seems like I have some natural talent for it, and I was very fun to climb also. The first months my arms where screaming in pain after my climb training, but after a while my arms developed so I could handle it better. I also trained some bodypump with Kattis to help build strength to make me a better climber. I was surprised to see I could develop muscles pretty quick, since I never had any muscles before and didn't think I could ever be athletic. My boyfriend noticed this too, and he was amazed that after just a few month climbing weak little me was pretty even with him in armstrengh. We tied at armwrestling, but he was cool with it and wanted to feel my new muscle and so on. As I continued to climb, my strength and muscles continued to develop good, and I am now clearly stronger and have more muscles than my cute bad boy. I didn't like my body much before, but now I?m proud of my fit body and thinks my new stronger body fits my "bad ass" personality much better, and I feel I can put some physical force behind my brave word and demands now. And i feel more confident also. But even if i have trained pretty hard, i was very surprised how quick a girl like me could pass his male strengh. My boyfriend thinks my new strength is cool, and likes when I get physical with him. When among his friends, he doesn't want me to show off, and I respect that, but among my girlfriends I love to show off, winning over him in strength contests like armwrestling (it's often Kattis who egg us on after a few beers ;-) I want to tell more, but this is all for now. TessJun 26 2008 5:23am I'm about 183 cm and 85 kg. I used to be in pretty good shape but have only worked out with weights about 10 times in the last 2 years. But I am athletic and play sports twice a week so I'm not a complete out of shape coach potato, I am really good at sports. You girls think you could dominate me wrestling?? Fem Muscle AdmirerJun 28 2008 7:10pm I hate to admit it, but my wife can make me submit almost at will. I am no sissy, but I am no match for her. Her favorite hold is a grapevine with my arms pinned tightly between our legs, I cannot move enough to get any leverage and she always makes me submit. Her legs are extremely strong and flexible and her biceps are like rock. She is not a big woman only 5-6, 135lbs. but she is very solid from years of sports and hard work. Her biceps are 13" VERY SOLID and her thighs are 28" with 15" calves. I am 5-10 170lbs. and a very healthy man. I was embarrased the first time she made me admit she was better than me but now it's just a part of our lifestyle. fempinnedJun 28 2008 9:58pm Women made to serve. 1. By cooking 2. By cleaning 3. For sex That is it. No female can beat a man. Big BallsJun 30 2008 9:56am Add a comment: Vote Results |
