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Are the submissive tendencies of men actually influencing changes in society?

Question: It is obvious from posts that a large number of men harbor female domination fetishes. Are the attitudes and actions of these men actually having an influence which is contributing to the empowerment of women in the real world?
Created by: donnatheone at 04:23:46 PM, Monday, July 14, 2008 EDT

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I believe a great number of men who have secret fantasies of female dominance allow their libidos to dictate their decisions in the real world. Women are already on the rise, and this is being accelerated because men allow females to walk all over them.

DonnaJul 14 2008 8:31pm


Donna, do you think women welcome this or would they prefer men to fight back? Can men fight back?

BarryJul 14 2008 9:39pm
I think women welcome this as they see it as just a long overdue opportunity for equality in a world which once treated us as 2nd class citizens. What they don't realize is if things continue in the current trend, women will have more rights than men, and will have a tremendous advantage in the long run. They do not want or expect men to resist, because of the political correctness which is taking hold of society. Any man who stands up to oppose women's rights is rejected as an outcast. That being said, I don't think men can fight back without sacrificing their own reputations. I am totally in favor of women's rights, but I also believe the movement will advance beyond equality. Any intelligent person should be concerned about what long term consequences this might have for both genders

DonnaJul 15 2008 10:57am
I think women welcome this as they see it as just a long overdue opportunity for equality in a world which once treated us as 2nd class citizens. What they don't realize is if things continue in the current trend, women will have more rights than men, and will have a tremendous advantage in the long run. They do not want or expect men to resist, because of the political correctness which is taking hold of society. Any man who stands up to oppose women's rights is rejected as an outcast. That being said, I don't think men can fight back without sacrificing their own reputations. I am totally in favor of women's rights, but I also believe the movement will advance beyond equality. Any intelligent person should be concerned about what long term consequences this might have for both genders

DonnaJul 15 2008 3:29pm
thanks Donna so essentially you think we will endup with women as superior to men and with both men an women thinking this is right? my wife tlls me she is superior and that I should just accept she wears the pants. on your argument should I just agree?

barryJul 15 2008 11:37pm
Not necessarily. Both genders have attributes the other lacks, so for society to society to discriminate in favor of female supremacy will limit the potential of men to contribute things which benefit all, which is not really what anyone should want. I think a lot of men are against this, but they have a small voice. Most men do not dare to take a stand against political correctness, which is advocating the feminization of our social structure. My original point is that men who are into fantasy scenarios are unwittingly conducting themselves in a way which will strip themselves of their own status in the long run. Be careful what you wish for, in other words

DonnaJul 16 2008 5:54am
In your private life you should do as you please. I f agreeing enhances the relationship, so be it.

DonnaJul 16 2008 10:20am
Donna, I think this poll question itself shows how far things have progressed.? The fact that so many see the changes that are happening reinforces the attitude that women are outperforming men.? The one thing I take some issue on is just because women are outperforming men and it appears that that will continue, it does not in and of itself mean that men will lose our rights.? It indicates that possible changes in the roles each of the genders play may be forcoming, but beyond that it depends on what direction our leaders, who will in my opinion be mostly women, decide to move in.?

thomasJul 16 2008 2:12pm
I agree that there will not be an overt action to deprive men of their rights. However, some of the trends which are firmly underway right now will have that effect due to unintended consequences. there has been a lot of discussion in other polls about the rate at which women are overtaking men in college enrollment. This trend is expected to keep gaining momentum in future decades. Combine this with affirmative action in the workplace, and you end up with a society where men have very limited opportunities to compete with women who are better educated and groomed for advancement. At that point, women will have an overwhelming advantage in attaining vocational positions of high income and status. So a movement which was intended to provide equality could end up relegating men to a role as second class citizens. To some this may sound like a utopia, but I am curious about how that situation will change day to day life and the direction we are going in. I'm not saying it is completely negative, I'm just wondering if men who advocate this have really thought things through. And make no mistake about it, the changes are already taking place.

DonnaJul 16 2008 4:06pm
#0010 - (Wed.) * 7/16/08

UpdateJul 16 2008 7:52pm
Donna, Thanks for the advice. I think men haven't fully thought through what is going on. When I married Nichola I thought I was just humouring her when she talked about female superiority but the more you talk about it the more it seems right. Last night I told her that I was happy to acknowledge she was the master at home. Tonight we have her sister coming to supper and she wants me to raise the whole question of your argument about society and to admit to our guests that she and I have agreed that she wil rule the realtionship.As you say be careful what you wish for!Not sure how this is going to go..

BarryJul 16 2008 9:46pm
what you are saying is true-the last 3 jobs i have had were always under a woman boss or supervisor. it never used to be like that.

AnonymousJul 17 2008 7:10am
Thomas, I agree with your comment that Women outperforming males is about males somehow ending up worse off in everyday life. If anything the increasing presence of Women in power will not only improve things for Women, but for males as well. Society will function more smoothly when the natural balance of power returns to its natural state after so many generations of male dominance. How will it really 'hurt' males to admit their natural inferiority to Women? The male 'ego' is the only thing that really stands in the way of men accepting their true nature as adjuncts to the superior sex. Males exist to serve Women. This is an evolutionary fact. We all know that there are many species in nature which exist without males, and many more in which the male is completely at the mercy of the Female. In fact, species in which the male is 'dominant' are quite few, and in most of those, male dominance is really just a superficial show. After all, the male in nature can die (or be eaten by the female) during intercourse and still serve his purpose, the Female has the greater importance to the survival of the species in all species. Males are coming to realise this more and more, and as they do they are paving the way for the ascendency of Women.

AnonymousJul 17 2008 4:49pm
It is not just the submissive men. Women are more willing to project dominance and at an earlier age. The Girls Rule culture of teen agers encourage young Women to be more aggressive and males who wish to be used by these Women to be more submissive. One feeds off the other. When I was a young male I dreamed of being subjugated by a Woman but there was no social outlet. In college there was this powerfully built Female student government official who referred to Her boyfriend as Her slave and I remembered getting very excited at the thought but had no idea how to act on it. It was not until I was in my mid-20's that I discovered Femdom erotica and realized large numbers of people had this orientation. I did not actively begin to wander in an out of the underground slave markets offering my behind to a Woman's firm hand until I was in my thirties, and was finally enslaved in my late thirties. I think Femdom will ultimately follow the same path as gayness, from being an unknown taboo to gradually coming out of the closet to eventually acceptance. The fact that Women predominate in professional schools will eventually produce a society where the Businesswoman-househusband marriage will as common if not more so than gay relationships males will routinely take wedding vows to "love, honor, and obey" and will take the Wife's surname.

obedient husbandJul 18 2008 6:25pm
It is true that a large number of people have this orientation. Probably a greater number than we realize, because many keep it to themselves. Does anyone have a theory such a large number of men feel this way?

AnonymousJul 19 2008 6:56am
These polls are created by fetishists - like myself, who claim to be women but are in fact men with a strength fetish. I have myself posted above under a different name claiming my 'wife' is now stronger etc. Please, don't take these polls seriously, men like me use them for arousal purposes

robJul 19 2008 7:39pm
The fact that fetishists get off on the polls does not diminish the subject matter if it can hold up to logical debate. There is no way to control who reads these things, nor any other form of media. Fetishists are people, and therefore have as much right to participate as non-fetishists.

AnonymousJul 20 2008 2:08am
Rob and anonymous are both right. Girls Rule culture is independent of traditional male oriented fetish Femdom but at some point there is an intersection. Much of the posting here is to submale fantasies as bodice ripper romantic novels are to the fantasies of bored housewifes. However, the integration of Women into the professional educational and employment elite has destroyed the old marriage gradient. The Female investment banker has to ultimately breed with someone and the hedge fund manager has married his secretary. So in the end she settles for the mail clerk and being financially and personally a more powerful person She dominates the relationship and her daughters will see her, not their compliant stay at home grandmother, as the role model to emulate. But enough of such serious sociological stuff. I want Rob to switch into his online persona and tell me how his 6 foot 250 pound Wife beat his behind yesterday.

obedient husbandJul 20 2008 11:04am
Both of your points are relevant to the original question asked in this poll. Rob is saying the issue has no credibility because the people who post are just indulging in fantasies. Obedient husband points out that while this is true, it is also true that there is a genuine empowerment of women taking place in reality. I am curious if men who fantasize of these things actually would want to live their day to day lives in a society where their opportunities are diminished due to gender bias in favor of women. Do you think their fetish orientation causes them to concede to females in day to day life, and if so, does it have a collective impact on the direction of the balance of power in society?

DonnaJul 20 2008 11:50am
0020 - (Sun.) * 7/20/08

UpdateJul 20 2008 1:50pm
Ms. Donna,thank you for your kind words Ma'am. There are submissive men who are no more likely to act on their fantasies than the readers of bodice rippers are to seek capture by pirates and bold warriors but there are others who do live the lifestyle. The social trends I talked about have created Women who are interested in acquiring submissive males or who are at least open to it. Back in the early 90's my future Wife picked me up in a public setting and asked me to dinner. That alone was a departure from traditional roles of years earlier. Over dinner I was able to reveal my orientation, something which would have been unthinkable years before. Wife had not previously owned a male but said that the idea of keeping a younger male servant appealed to Her. We made a second date and at that time She whipped me on my bare behind. One thing led to another and eventually She ordered me to marry Her and at our wedding I took a vow to Love, Honor and Obey and we were pronounced Woman and husband. We are not unique. Wife occasionally loans me to another Woman. This Woman, in addition to requring HER groom to pledge to love honor and obey capped Her marriage ceremony by having a wedding ring implanted in Her new husband's penis. I was not actually at the ceremony but I have seen the video. In addition to Her husband, She keeps a second male as a sex and household slave. In other aspects of my life I work for a Female boss who pays me by directly depositing my salary into my Wife's account. There is another senior Female executive at work who orders me to make Her coffee whenver She wants it. I usually address both Women as "Ma'am". However, just as women in the 1950's were involved with things in life that did not directly relate to serving their husbands, I attend sporting events, watch Star Trek reruns and read novels all unrelated to Femdom. However, I do these things when Wife permits it and usually after She is satisfied with my service for the day. Wife is entitled to absolute obedience at all times, has total access to amy money or property I might procure, may use me sexually in any way She desires and may beat me at any time for any reason. I am deleriously happy and will spend the rest of our joint lives together as Her slave, unless SHE decides to dismiss me, sell me or give me away.

obedient husbandJul 20 2008 6:46pm
Donna, I think you are right about political correctness changing how men react. My wife did invite her ister round for dinner together wiht her boyfried and another couple. Nichole raised the quetion of the battle of the sexes and all three women argued that women were now superior. Not one of us men were brave enough to argue so we ended up agreeing them and pledging to obey them properly in the future. When the three men were doing the washung up we said that we wished we had felt able to argue but it seems the battle is lost??

barryJul 21 2008 1:41am
Donna. you are right when you say that any man that stands up against women's rights is branded an outcast. It seems that men have now lost the will to fight back. Women are well organized, determined and focused. Men on the other hand don't appear to have any weapons left in their armory. I think many men, maybe a majority, do have subconscious submissive feelings towards women and this is bound to make the triumph of women easier. As you say "beyond equality" to supremacy. What that will mean for us all, goodness knows.

SteveJul 21 2008 8:09am
obedient husband, I would like to hear more about having a ring implanted in the husbands penis. What a novel idea. Was that actually part of the ceremony. Was the husband actually standing in front of the wedding part naked with his worm hanging out? I would love to see the video. Please write back.

LizJul 21 2008 7:59pm
Barry, now you ought to make the next logical step -- you must tell your Wife that She is free to punish you whenever She finds it necessary. It may be forbidding you to do some things (like drinking beer or watching soccer/baseball) or grounding you or slapping you in the face. Depriving you of money and belting you will be the next step.

Nick NJul 21 2008 11:22pm
Nick,Ihappily Nichola is not very interested inpunishing me. She has however instituted a to_do list which i have to complete every day. do any other husbands have to do this?

barryJul 22 2008 7:25pm
Donna, I don't think for most people there is a conscious desire to have society change in the way it is. Some of the women who are radical feminists might have plans and intentions, but the development of desire toward female rule is something that just happens due to all of the factors in society. In the past, little girls grew up dreaming of the day they would be able to be married, care for the house and kids and have a husband who worked in a respectable job providing for her and the family. Today, boys are growing up, seeing girls outperforming them, hearing that girls are superior, etc. They then begin to dream about how their life might be like and it is with their life experiences that they form their dreams. They believe they cannot get a great job in many cases because they don't do well in school. They want the good life and see in their minds the only way to get that is to have a powerful wife. Is this so amazing? I don't think so. Is it a dream they develop in isolation that they will have less opportunities than girls? No. It is a "realistic" expectation. And they create how they want to live their lives with these expectations. As for the older guys, the femdom fetish might have been spurred by the feminist movements in the 60s and 70s. Political correctness and women's liberation certainly provided a foundation for many of the dreams. That is why, in my opinion, femdom often is in conflict with itself. It shows the woman in charge, but doing what the man wants. It takes the ideas from life to the extreme and beyond. But it is based upon their life experiences.

thomasJul 23 2008 11:05am
Ms. Liz, the husband was naked throught the ceremony. His Bride whipped his bare behind in front of Her guests and then the High Priestess required him to vow to love, honor, and obey, and they were pronounced Woman and husband. The Bride then took Her husband into a back room and chained him to a bed. She then supervised his piercing and inserted the ring into his penis. The camera was close up and caught all of it but I do not know how many guests if any were in the back room with the couple. After he was pierced the Wife led him back into the main room, naked, and paraded him around so Her guests could inspect the piercing. The Wife has the video which She keeps for private occasions and to show guests. To the best of my knowledge She has never offered it for sale. The ceremony, with some still photos, was described in an issue of The Essemian Way, a Goddess oriented magazine that was published in the 80's and 90's. If You to know anything more about the ceremony or the couple's orientation I would be happy to respond to more questions Ma'am.

obedient husbandJul 23 2008 2:37pm
Thomas, your points are well received. If you are correct about the changing dynamics of the aspirations of men from an early age, then I would have to conclude that as a society the concept of female supremacy has already taken hold. If males are growing up with the perception that females are superior, they will be reluctant to compete with women in the business world. If this is a widespread trend, things will change faster than most ever expected, perhaps within a generation or two.

DonnaJul 23 2008 6:37pm
We are certainly in a transition period right now. When I was younger, the question that people struggled with was if women could compete with men. Today, I don't think anyone has a reasonable argument that women are capable of doing anything they desire and can compete with men. Today, the question is coming along to be can men compete with women. While there is much of history to overcome in terms of beliefs and ideas, it has only taken a generation to get from the weak women, man is in charge belief to equality. While there are still road blocks for women, the beliefs are changed. So your right, we may see the entire shift happen within our lifetime. But the trend is there.

thomasJul 23 2008 7:52pm
The trend has been developing for many years. The imbalance between male and female performance in the school system is a major catalyst for this transition. If the ratio of female to male college enrollment becomes extremely lopsided, learning institutions will naturally tend to cater more to the needs of the female student body, because that is who will be paying tuition. At that point, it will become even more difficult for males to succeed. Combine all this with affirmative action and the deck is definitely stacked in the favor of women. We are already at a point where female run businesses are given priority, and anyone who has ever been in a divorce or custody dispute has quickly discovered who has more rights in a court of law. A lot of people write female supremacy off as a fetish scenario, but in the light of day it is actually a serious social issue.

DonnaJul 23 2008 11:12pm
We are seeing a chain reaction of female ascendency and male decline which seems irreversible. No one takes the idea of male superiority seriously anymore, but Female superiority is actually seen as a legitimate assertion. While it's probable that the majority of progressive thinkers would rather talk about gender equality, Female superiority is a strongly held belief among an increasing number of male and Female scientists and sociologists - as well as the among general population. Growing up male in the current gender environment means growing up with the awareness that you may in fact be a member of an obsolete life form who's future will be decided by the whims of the superior sex; Women. You will learn that the male genome is less richly endowed than the Female's, that Women's brains are more complex and more efficient, able to multitask better and that Women are superior in all five senses that you have; sound, sight smell touch and taste, as well as having a couple more senses that you - as a male - can't even imagine. Growing up male will be more and more a lesson in humility. Growing up Female increasingly means having an awareness that we are living in a time of transition from a decaying patriarchal system to one in which Women are increasingly in control. Growing up Female now means that you know Women are the future and males are the past. More and more males will submit out of sheer necessity. Rogue males who continue to harbor the illusion of male superiority (or even equality) will be outcast and ridiculed. So the chain reaction will result in the most influential males being submissive to Women. Macho men can't win this one.

AnonymousJul 26 2008 1:54pm
#0033 - (Sat.) * 7/16/08

UpdateJul 26 2008 8:00pm
#0033 - * 7/26/08 ***VOID ABOVE***

UpdateJul 26 2008 8:04pm
Donna, your right. I just saw an article in the news paper that studies have shown that girls are at least as good at math as boys. For some time now, that had been the last bastion of male "dominance". Now, girls have risen to the point of at least equality in math. This is despite the fact that many times teachers have assumed that boys are better at math than girls so have acted accordinginly. As girls are seen by others and themselves as very capable of doing math, will we soon see them dominate this subject area as well? I suspect so. Today, we find that more women than men are entering careers in the law, medicine, accounting, and a host of other areas. We are seeing that women invest better and are better on computers so that, it would seem, are careers that will soon be female dominated. With math going to the women as well, what does that leave? Seems to me the writing is on the wall.

thomasJul 26 2008 8:07pm
Thomas is right on point. Not only do women show superior capabilities in the aforementioned areas, but their dominance in education will also give them a greater opportunity to develop their intellectual skills. Men will become typecast in the role of lower level jobs under the supervision of female management.

RockJul 27 2008 2:19am
I agree with both Thomas and Rock. Women are well on their way to taking control.

Alan MJul 27 2008 11:40am
I want to see proof of all these claims. In the forty years since mainstream feminism and female entitlement to high quality education how many female geniuses do women have to show for it ?. The leaders in physics research are still men (quantumn computing, the reletavistic confluence etc etc just look) the internet is dominated by male creativity (myspace, digg, wikipedia, youtube, google...). The greatest classic movies are concieved by men , just check Rotten Tomatoes for their top twenty list. The greatest generals and warriors are men. The greatest lateral thinkers are still men. Think of any form of famous media or concept or expression. Nine times out of ten It will be a man's work. Men have more creative genius than women. This is the writing on the wall written by men who stand to piss. Not the emasculated commie pinkos on this vagina loving site.

BushrulzJul 28 2008 10:41am
The Secretary of State is a Woman. The most significant European leader of the past thirty years, Ms. Thatcher, was a woman. The most significant current European leader, Fraulein Merkel, is a Woman. The single most successful pop icon of the last twenty-five years, Madonna(love her or hate her) is a Woman. Some of the more cutting edge CEO's (Carly Fiorina, Sherry Lansing) were Women. I'm a Republican but we might have had a better shot this year with Condi Rice or even Sarah Palin. Ms. Palin is the single most popular Governor in the country in terms of a state's approval rating. While I do not like Hillary, She actually got more total primary votes than any male candidate. I could probably come up with more examples but Wife/Mistress is only permitting me a few minutes on the computer tonight.

obedient husbandJul 28 2008 3:17pm
For proof of these claims you just need to use the internet which you falsely claim to be male dominated. look up the statistics on educational performance and college enrollment. Look up wage earning trends and you will discover that young women are actually beginning to make more money than men in major cities. As for your examples, a strong argument can be made that the creators of things like myspace are causing more harm to young people than good. In the entertainment industry, women have been dominating music for quite some time now. You talk about the media. Did you notice that Dan Rather's chair on the evening news is now occupied by a woman? If you look at the cable news channels, you will notice that most of the high paying and prominent anchor spots are going to young women, who have replaced the old men who used to be there. The public relates to women more readily in this day and age, and women are in greater demand. Generals and warriors are people who kill for a living. The hope of humanity lies in the optimism that this will someday be considered a negative, not a positive. This is precisely why women are so necessary for leadership in the modern world. The change is taking place in the younger generation. Girls are no longer considered to be the weaker sex if you talk to people who are in touch with children. Boys have learned that the opposite is actually true, and that is shaping the attitudes of of the up and coming generation. The men of tomorrow will have a different outlook than those who grew up in your generation. They will respect and admire women. They will not address them as "sweetie" or "honey". Instead it will be "Ma'am" or "Boss".

TyfJul 28 2008 6:32pm
Tyf, I am Wife's slave and I work for a Female Boss, and they both addressed as Ma'am.

obedient husbandJul 28 2008 6:40pm
Your situation is more common than many people realize. Being a "slave" might be taking it to the extreme, but most married men have to answer to their wives these days, and those who don't admit it are in denial. And having a female boss is becoming the norm, not the exception.

TyfJul 28 2008 7:20pm
And most respectfully, if I might ask, what is your marital and business situation.

obedient husbandJul 28 2008 7:30pm
I am single and self employed.

TyfJul 28 2008 7:59pm
#0045 - (Tue.) * 7/29/08

UpdateJul 28 2008 10:32pm
"...Dan Rather's chair on the evening news is now occupied by a woman." That was an unfortunate choice for you to use to illustrate female supremacy, because Katie Couric has been a ratings disater, and there has been speculation about her being replaced. While CBS and NBC are close in the race for evening news ratings, with CBS at 8.02 million and NBC at 7.79 million, Katie Couric is way behind at 5.4 million. That's more than 2 million behind 2nd place. If you google "Katie Couric" and "ratings", you'll find stories with headlines such as "another record low" "still sinking" and "free-fall." The public has spoken and they prefer male news anchors. Just another example of how out of touch the fetishists here are with the attitudes in the real world.

AnonymousJul 31 2008 2:24pm
No, the public doesn't like Katie Couric. Furthermore the market share for all network newscasts is falling.

obedient husbandAug 01 2008 7:24pm
So many encouraging postings here.One that particularly struck home came from Tyf.To want for more war and more suffering and militarism is patently something Womynkind can do without. We need to move towards a more peaceful society and I am afraid to say this means the gradual disenfranchisement of males.The male is a dangerous animal and must be controlled and constrained.He should nto be in power.The male elite uses less pwerful males for their own ends which are based on power and money and greed. Males are now accepting their inferiority and Womyn are coming to greater self awarenes of their natural superiority. We still have a long way to go but we know in what direction things are going. Males still earn more than Womyn and occupy more positions of power than Womyn.But Womyn are now better educated than they have ever been and the new corps of management will be Female.They are better suited to the stewardship of relationships and the family and increasingly the workplace. When we look back over the last 100 years how much will change in the next 100. Bushrulz is either an Aunt Sally or a devils advocate.How he can say that respect for Womyn = vagina loving and saying this is a bad thing is beyond me.Does he hate vaginas?It would seem so.Let him stay with his penis and Bush and all the other male penises and leave the rest of us to pursue what nature has intended.

Lou RollsAug 01 2008 9:38pm
So many encouraging postings here.One that particularly struck home came from Tyf.To want for more war and more suffering and militarism is patently something Womynkind can do without. We need to move towards a more peaceful society and I am afraid to say this means the gradual disenfranchisement of males.The male is a dangerous animal and must be controlled and constrained.He should nto be in power.The male elite uses less pwerful males for their own ends which are based on power and money and greed. Males are now accepting their inferiority and Womyn are coming to greater self awarenes of their natural superiority. We still have a long way to go but we know in what direction things are going. Males still earn more than Womyn and occupy more positions of power than Womyn.But Womyn are now better educated than they have ever been and the new corps of management will be Female.They are better suited to the stewardship of relationships and the family and increasingly the workplace. When we look back over the last 100 years how much will change in the next 100. Bushrulz is either an Aunt Sally or a devils advocate.How he can say that respect for Womyn = vagina loving and saying this is a bad thing is beyond me.Does he hate vaginas?It would seem so.Let him stay with his penis and Bush and all the other male penises and leave the rest of us to pursue what nature has intended.

Lou RollsAug 01 2008 9:38pm
I'd like to ask Barry about accepting female domination by him and his brothers-in-law. Barry, if your Wife is not inclined to whip you, it's a bit sad but isn't absolutely necessary. More important is that it must be She who says the last word in making any important decision, it is She who possesses all the money you earn and it is you who does the most part of housework. Oh, and of course, in bed you must serve Her and do your best and She must be free to decide if, when and how much your service She needs. And you must never ever ask Her about blowjob, while your tongue must be your main sexual organ. And if after an hour of your ardent serving She tells you that it's enough for tonight and turns away to sleep -- that's Her decision and you have no right to ask for any intercourse. Pls inform us about you progress in accepting FemDom.

Nick NAug 02 2008 11:32am
#0051 - (Thu.) * 8/7/08

UpdateAug 07 2008 10:06am
Lovely and sentient words Nick N.Males seem to put the onus on Womyn and ask why are they failing to deliver on being dominant with a me me me attitude.But it is the males that are failing to be properly submissive and do what the Womyn want rather than their own selfish urges.

Big BrendaDec 31 2008 8:26pm
Big Brenda Ma'am, I am sure that You have beaten any such ideas out of Your own males.

obedient husbandJan 11 2009 5:33pm
Dear Big Brenda, Your kind words are really like a balm for my soul. Thank You very much, You are my Goddess!

Nick NJan 12 2009 12:32am
Obedient husband I rarely have to beat any stupid ideas out of my males as I tend to pick intelligent ones.I tend to favour force of personality over whip wielding but the latter can be fun sometimes.

Big BrendaJan 27 2009 10:57pm
Nick N I like to think all we Womyn are Goddessses in our own way.But thank you for your worship.Sometimes males redeem themselves by showing like you had that their tongues are not just about licking us and our footware but are capable of uttering cogent thought and feelings. Obedeint husband you are getting to be a litlte tiresom with your one track mind about physical discipline try to show your feelings of submission another way for once.

Big BrendaJan 27 2009 11:00pm
Big Brenda,Ma'am, thank You for responding. As always I bend over and bare my arse in Your presence.

obedient husbandJan 28 2009 7:53pm
I don't see any change in your mantra obedient husband.I asked you to come up with some better ways of expressing your submission and you trot out the same stuff that you have done over and over again.Keep your arse covered because I will not be beating you anytime soon.

Big BrendaFeb 15 2009 7:57pm
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Thank You Ma'am, I try to please. If I am distracted or involved in something not related to serving Her, and She suddenly appears or orders me to pay attention, I must learn to do a better job of immediately dropping whatever I was involved with to focus solely on Her needs.

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That is as it should be dear boi.She is paramount in your life and you are there to help make Her life more easy.That is the funtion you were born for.

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Oh I agree in theory Ma'am. It is just that as a mere male my performance of my obligations is somewhat flawed. Am I permitted to ask if I belonged to you how would you correct me?

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To all the retarded men out there, if you read the statisiics about educational performans and where the real power are, you will learn that man are doing better in school then woman and men have the real power in society. Woman have for a few years been chosen first for advances in studies, just to get more woman up there. Add to this that more "manly" educations like farmer, carpenter, painter does not require as much studies on higher levels witch leads to more woman at university. And for Dave can you please stop beeing a pathetic loser? Dont make poo up please just beacause you get turned on by this crap.

DavedownonyourkneesJul 13 2010 1:17pm
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WrestleDadNov 16 2010 5:02pm
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Davedownonyourknees, I don't know what research you are looking at, but you are sadly mistaken. Women have been excelling in school for many years and the enrollment rate and graduation rate out of universities is more and more lopsided every year. The earning power of women will soon outweigh earning power of men. Yes your right in that the manual labor jobs out there that men are the dominant work force, but they also make LESS money than someone with a degree. Look at the business world, you see women climbing that ladder in all professions. Now think about the short time period that these changes have occurred being that in many ways women were suppressed. Society is pushing this, the people reporting the news is primarily women, women in the media and hollywood are shown to be more in control and dominant, and their husbands as goofy screw ups.

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