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I first developed this fantasy when one of my female relative has lifted me from front, after that i had been lifted several times As a man myself, I would have to state that (at least) HALF OF ALL MEN have submissive fantasies of being dominated (especially physically) by a woman. EVEN BIG STRONG MEN!!! I believe that men's submissive fantasies of being dominated by a powerful woman are among the greatest forces on the face of the Earth!!! Many (if not most) men are "in the closet" about this. BUT I AM NOT!!! I suspect that tall men in particular (especially tall skinny men) are embarrassed about admitting their submissive fantasies of female domination simply because of their greater height over women (taller men are "supposed" to be stronger than women). A tall man does not want a public-at-large to believe that A WOMAN could be larger and stronger than such a tall man. I AM NOT AMONG THEM!!! I am quick to admit my submissive fantasies of being dominated by a woman who is physically more powerful than I am. A woman who can dominate me physically is also capable of dominating me SEXUALLY!!! Just like the first comment clearly points out, I believe there is a known starting point for a man's submissive fantasies of female domination. My own such fantasies began while I was in elementary school when, as a tall skinny boy, I was challenged to a fight and defeated by a short large girl who weighed more than I did and whose physical strength proved to be superior to mine. I am now a tall skinny man who, since way back then, continues to have powerful fantasies about being physically and sexually dominated by a short large woman. The shorter and larger a woman is who weighs more than I do and who proves that she is stronger than I am, THE MORE TURNED ON I GET!!! I know that seems rather weird but that is my own submissive fantasy of female domination which was first brought about after I was defeated by that short large girl. So far, the shortest woman out of all the large women whose physical strength exceeds mine (and who also outweigh me) does not even rise up to my armpits. In fact, while she and I were both standing in front of each other, the top of her head reached only up to my nipples!!! But she is bigger, heavier and stronger than I am and that is what really turns me on (such a short woman who is large enough and strong enough to defeat me on the spot!!!). I don't get that same kind of "high" from a large woman who is tall. Quite a few of my fantasies have turned into reality thanks to short large women who knew what turns me on and then fulfilled my fantasies which makes my continuing fantasies even more powerful whenever such women are absent. I look forward to the next time when a short large woman who is bigger and stronger than I am physically and sexually dominates MY TALL SKINNY MALE BODY!!! a tall skinny man with powerful fantasies of female dominationNov 21 2009 4:50pm I think it is very common, infact I think almost all if not all men have submissive fantasies although they may not admit it even to themselves. Look at the polls here. Most of them show men and their submissive fantasies. In discussions with guys, mention a woman overpowering a guy and you will always see the guy's interest perk up and he will ask you more about it. In fact, almost any excuse to refer to a woman overpowering a guy will be exercised by most men. Any time a guy gets an opportunity to say a wife beats up her husband or an older sister beats uo her little brother, he will. TadNov 22 2009 5:01am I have had submissive fantasies since I was a child. I am now 60 years old. I have had this fantasy of being sterlized by a female doctor. I underwent this procedure by a female doctor with my wife and sister by my side. Since then I have had a fantasy of being castrated, my wife has had me on a chemical drug that has totally taken my erections away. We have discussed having me surgically castrated, and my wife agrees, it should be done. I was born with a small penis and a large belly and could never satisfy her, I was very poor at making love. Since my chemical castration, my wife is permitted to have lovers. I do not miss having erections or orgasms. We both agree castration is best for me. A fantasy since my childhood has become reality. How do readers feel, should I retain my balls and live like a man. Or should I be castrated and live like a eunuch. Let my wife enjoy sex, with her lovers. TD-60Nov 22 2009 5:55am You will never be a man. No doubt, you are an Obama voter. AnonymousNov 22 2009 6:37am TD-60 I vote for your castration, it sounds like it would be best for your wife. If my husband gave me the choice of his tiny thing or alot of lovers well, I would vote for his castration. So like so many women I feel its best your balls be removed. I am sure you will hear from other females. BethNov 22 2009 10:29am It seems to be a fantasy for men who are small and weak. Maybe thats because we accept that reality and let it become our orientation. Some small weak guys never accept it and develop what is known as the napoleon complex! AnonymousNov 23 2009 7:19am Actually submissive fantasies are most common amongst men who wield power and responsibility in daily life, and seek to relinquish control as a means of escape from the stress. The whole "small and weak" element has nothing to do with anything. Mistress LauraNov 23 2009 10:45am Gautam, The poll is talking about indulging in fantasies of female domination, not some female carrying around some dead beat who still suck his thumb when he think no one is looking. If she was DOMINATING you...then it would you carrying her around, not the other way around CathyNov 23 2009 9:37pm #0010 - (Mon.) * 11/23/09 UpdateNov 23 2009 9:39pm Do not expect a man who works for an evil female boss to have this fantasy. AnonymousNov 23 2009 9:57pm Do not expect a high percentage of any males to have this fantasy either DOMINATING or CARRYING some DIMWIT around!! AnonymousNov 23 2009 10:20pm Let's realize the true meaning of domination. Lift. And carry, light wrestling is consentual, not domination. True physical domination is when one person hijacks a persons body against his own will for the purpose of seriously injuring him. If I dominated any of you 120 # boys,; I would knock you down and pin you to the ground. Beat you so badly to the point my face is the last face you will ever see. That's DOMINATION!!! At 5'9 and 185 #'s, I am one of those "big strong women"(as if we are a human sub breed)!! I COUld EASILY dominate any of you; but if you knew the real definition of domination, you would not want to be dominated! TanyaNov 24 2009 12:05pm 5'9 and 185? What a disgusting fat pig! You are not big and strong, you are overweight. Sitting around on your fat ass eating twinkees and cheesecake has taken its toll. You probably have one of those big wide asses that make jeans look like a low flying aircraft. When a man sees that, all he can say is "that's gotta stink". Believe me, no matter how you look at it, it is not a sexy image. Get yourself together and drop about 40 or 50 pounds. You will be healthier, you will feel better, and guys will actually find you attractive enough to approach without a harpoon. DirkNov 24 2009 10:38pm #0015 - (Wed.) * 11/25/09 UpdateNov 24 2009 10:44pm A fat pig? Perhaps. Actually, SHE IS A FAT PIG INDEED!!! However, there are a whole lot of "fat pig" ladies out there who are awfully strong and many of them are SHORT!!! I am a skinny guy who is quite tall but I am barely 130 lbs. I was easily outlifted by a "fat pig" lady who was pretty much a dwarf compared to me (over a foot shorter than me) but she outweighed me by 60 lbs. Her arms were incredibly big and strong with much larger muscles than mine. There is no way that I would ever want to step into the ring with her!!! "Fat pig" ladies need to be stronger in order to carry all of that extra weight. I am sure there must be "fat pig" ladies out there who are willing to back up what I am stating about their incredible strength. a skinny guy easily outlifted by a "fat pig" ladyNov 25 2009 1:52am Tanya, would you dominate me just a little bit by knocking me down pinning me down and taunting me and maybe hurt me a little bit rather than really hurting me or permanently injuring me? By the way, in my opinion, I think you are wonderful and , as you say, big and strong which is great.Please don't be upset by some derrogatory comments. Most of us think you are terrific and completely disagree with those negative comments. So please stay with us and keep giving us your views. Ok? TadNov 25 2009 8:10am Dirk she is big because she is strong. Not because she is fat. Why is it a big man is strong, but a big woman is fat? Why the double standard?Nov 25 2009 8:22am Get over it! There may be rare cases when a 5'9" woman can be fit at that weight, but we're talking about someone who is an extremely highly disciplined athlete dedicated to bodybuilding. But lets face reality. Some chick sitting around on her butt posting messages on websites like this at 2:00 A.M. is not likely to be that specimen. I hate to blemish your fantasy, but she is probably on her 2nd bag of potato chips by now. That is, if she is actually female, and not some guy posting weird stuff to get his rocks off. But for the sake of fairness, lets ignore that probability and assume she is actually who she claims to be, a woman who is 5'9" and weighs 185 lbs. I've dated a lot of tall women. At 5'9", a chick can have a great body at 135-145 lbs, even 150 depending on her build and body type. A woman that tall can carry 150 pounds gracefully if she is muscular or maybe a little thick. That can be sexy. But I've never met a chick over 170 pounds who wasn't a pig. We're talking 185 here, a few Snickers bars away from 200 pounds. Plus, remember that a woman ALWAYS lies about her weight, especially fat women. She probably actually believes she is at 185, because she is afraid to weigh herself. She was 185 the last time she bought jeans, which were a size 16 and are too tight now because she put on more weight. I am telling you the honest truth, no matter how unkind it may seem. A typical woman at 5 foot 9 and over 180 pounds is approaching obesity, and I guarantee unless she is the rare exception, it is not a pretty sight. Sure, she might be somewhat physically strong. But so is a farm animal. You want some fat, matronly, homely woman to "dominate" you just because she has some physical strength? Why not get a female horse or a cow to do it? Just as attractive and much more powerful. Forgive my sense of humor, but I hope that helps to illustrate my point. If you want to be dominated by a woman, she doesn't need to be strong, because you aren't going to resist her anyway. So why not find a really hot chick who's 5-9, but takes care of herself and looks great? It's all in the mind, my friend. You will have a better time if you focus on a chick that's worth your time. I thank you for taking time to read my comments. I am only trying to help by interjecting an honest opinion. As to the question about the double standard, I wholeheartedly agree with you. A guy who is out of shape and carrying an extra 40 or 50 pounds is also a pig. He might be strong, but probably can't climb a flight of stairs without being winded. Is that strong? Not really. That's a heart attack looking for a place to happen. If you are physically powerful, but out of breath after exerting yourself for 30 seconds, that strength is useless, and therefore doesn't count for anything. A person like that is unfit, period. Not strong, but actually weak overall due to the condition of his body. I realize guys get away with this myth of being strong but fat. But that is because people are ignorant. Since you are not ignorant, you know better. Now if you apply the same standard to women, we might be able to agree that Tanya is probably a pig who sits around eating cupcakes while she is online. DirkNov 25 2009 11:12pm Dirk, with all due respect, I think ou are being very unfair to Tanya. Even if she is way over weight, eating cup cakes or whatever while typing at her computer, she is never the less a lady who has decided to communicate with us in this forum and deserves respect and our attention to what she says. I for one (and I am sure there are many other guys) would certainly enjoy the attentions of Tanya even if she is as you describe. So Tanya, please hang in there with us and Dirk, please be a little kinder to those who post here. TadNov 26 2009 7:45am Wow this seems to be an emotional issue for you dirk. Get over it!!! Face the fact that some women are bigger and stronger than you AND THEY AREN`T FAT!! at 5`9(which is tall), 185 lbs seems darned healthy to me! AnonymousNov 26 2009 8:40am Suit yourself. I was only trying to help you out. A bitch who allows herself to become a lard ass has no respect for herself. By granting her false respect, you are enabling her own self destruction. You are preventing her from embracing the opportunity to live live to the fullest satisfaction, and all for your selfish fetish gratification. You are indeed cruel and pathetic. Tanya needs someone like me who is strong enough to snap her into reality. You may think you are being kind to her, but you are really her worst enemy. You have put your own childish needs before her well being. You will have to live with that reality forever. DirkNov 26 2009 12:57pm I have no problem living with reality at all Dirk. And whatever the reality is, I hope Tanya has every opportunity to live to her fullest satisfaction and has a happy life. TadNov 27 2009 7:48am Im 5`3 118 lbs Dirk. I dont think it would be in my best interest to challenge Tanya to a match. Knowing from my experience, you are probably a very small man also, and still grappling with the fact that some women are bigger and stronger than you! I was there also. I could live in denial and challenge Tanya to an all out cage fight--She would probably kill me! Im not defending Tanya here! In fact she sounds like someone I would not hang out with. But I am not going to bury my head in the sand. She is 6 inches taller and 67 pounds heavier MUCH STRONGER. Knowing that women are bigger and stronger doesent make me less of a man. In fact if you accept that fact and are secure with yourself, you will still attract women AnonymousNov 27 2009 8:31am Let me add. If I am in the pesence of a woman who is bigger and stronger. I still charm her and if interested court her. I can make a woman who is twice my size, twice as strong feel like a lady. So there is more to a man that how strong he is AnonymousNov 27 2009 9:03am Like I said before, suit yourself. I don't have a dog in this fight, so it makes no difference to me what you think. I was just offering some advice because I think it is a shame that guys have such a low opinion of themselves. Something is wrong with the way kids are raised these days. Enjoy going through life believing you are weak and small. DirkNov 27 2009 10:41am I have a home based business that earns me 10.000 a month. I own 3 cars and a home outright and I am only 41. If I were holding my head in shame because most women outclass me physically none of this would have happened. I used to be in denial. Even though the adjective 'tiny' was often used to describe me, I didn't want to believe that a woman was stronger. I always rationalized why she lifted more, other than she simply was bigger and stronger. For me the first step is to face it. Just accept if she is bigger, she will be stronger! I did that, then I decided to do something about it and join a gym. I did everything, healthy eating, hired a personal trainer, worked out. After a year and a half, I made no gains at all. The women at the gvm were still significantly stronger and the guys much more than that. The orginal trainer suddenly dissappeared. Then I hired a another. Well then he flaked out. Then I well known trainer in the phone book. I told her of my frustration on keeping trainers and asked why? She said I was trying hard had a good routineand diet, but then she dropped the bombshell "I think they didn't have the heart to tell you that YOU WON'T gain any size on that small frame of yours! )Ou need to stop fighting it and accept it" she then changed my routine to free weights and cardio. I accepted that I will always be a small weak man and held my high. Over the next two decades , I have been swept off my feet and enveloped in the arms of many beautiful women, who just happen to be bigger and stronger! I am a business giant! A social and intellectual role model! People look up to me and come to for advice. I now love to be small and weak because there is nothing more beautiful than a woman, who exudes feminity, stature and strength! I am a lover of big strong women. And every woman I date, I expect them to be bigger and stronger A small weak man, who loves being weakNov 27 2009 12:59pm #0028 - (Sat.) * 11/28/09 UpdateNov 28 2009 8:20am Sick puppy indeed. DirkNov 28 2009 8:52am To...WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARDS?, PLAIN and SIMPLE She FAT. PS So are most of the guys who are that size. PatNov 28 2009 10:34am Small weak man you sound sick and frail. A man who needs medical care. AnonymousNov 28 2009 11:17am I gotta agree with Pat on this one, she's FAT. BenNov 29 2009 11:13pm Its nice to know I am not the only small guy. All the ladies are heavier and stronger. I was a submssive male and fantasized being dominated by women. Then one day I met a strong woman online. She promised to make my dreams come true. She carred out that promise alright! It was the most terriffying moment in my life and landed me in the hospital. Since I am little person I never been around women before this woman. Now I am terrfied to go near them! If you saw what this woman did to me, you want to be small weak SujayNov 30 2009 10:12am Its nice to know I am not the only small guy. All the ladies are heavier and stronger. I was a submssive male and fantasized being dominated by women. Then one day I met a strong woman online. She promised to make my dreams come true. She carred out that promise alright! It was the most terriffying moment in my life and landed me in the hospital. Since I am little person I never been around women before this woman. Now I am terrfied to go near them! If you saw what this woman did to me, you want to be small weak SujayNov 30 2009 10:37am You don't even tell a decent story. At least try to use your imagination a little bit. You've never been in contact with a woman until you met one online? You never went to school or had a job or went to a grocery store during your entire lifetime, then you went online and met a woman. Think about how stupid that sounds. CarrieNov 30 2009 10:42am Carrie never dated a woman until I met this woman. All women are heavier taller stronger because I am 4'11 95 pounds. Then the big woman contact me. She say she like me and wanted to chat. She said she answer my ad because I say I am submissive and want to be dominate by strong ladies. She said she was 6' tall 200 pounds and she make my dreams come true. What didn't know, is that she planning on dating me, just beat me up in the worst way. It was my worst nightmare and was hopsital for 3 weeks. - I fear women now. I have to go to store and work yes. But I tremble when I get near a woman. For sure I will never ever meet up with a woman again SujayNov 30 2009 12:52pm Word of advice sujay: don't lie about your height, weight and sexual experience online, you'll get clobbered. My readNov 30 2009 1:21pm I'm having a submissive fantasy right now. I'm dreaming about having to clean Charlize Theron's kitchen floor while she beats my sorry ass with her Oscar. I have a ball-gag in my mouth, my hands are cuffed behind my back, and I cleaning the floor with a mop shoved up my ass while traipsing around the kitchen floor on roller skates. Slave StevenNov 30 2009 4:42pm In most cases, BEING FAT IS BEING STRONG!!! I know because I am a skinny man who has already lost enough physical challenges against a fat woman. Homely or not, FAT WOMEN ARE STRONG!!! AnonymousNov 30 2009 5:25pm gerbils are strong. AnonymousDec 01 2009 5:53am Tanya sounds like a powerfully built Woman, a hard ass not a lard ass, and someone who if She is not obeyed would give a male a red and welted ass. obedient husbandDec 01 2009 4:55pm gerbils are strong, and will give you a red ass whether you obey them or not. AnonymousDec 01 2009 6:32pm The guy who posted comment #24 states that Tanya is 6 inches taller and 67 lbs heavier than he is. I don't mean to "burst anyone's bubble" about Amazon fantasies but the fact is, HEIGHT MEANS NOTHING!!! Her height over his means nothing. Her WEIGHT over his is what matters!!! I am a skinny guy. I know exactly how it feels being TALLER than a woman who overpowers me and then takes me down because she is BIGGER than I am!!! I am TALLER than Tanya but Tanya is BIGGER than I am!!! I am 3 inches TALLER than Tanya but Tanya weighs 55 lbs more than I do and I know she is stronger than a puny, skinny little guy like me despite my height over her. I am simply too skinny to challenge her in the ring (I repeat: MY HEIGHT DOESN'T MATTER!!!). If I ever stepped into a caged ring with Tanya, I know I would be no match for her even though I tower over her by three inches. As soon as she takes me down and pins me, my lust would take control of me. I KNOW I WOULD PITCH THE BIGGEST WOODEN TENT ANYWHERE!!! AnonymousDec 02 2009 12:24am a gerbil is very small, only a few inches tall. if i ever stepped into the ring and was pinned by a gerbil, you can bet i would pitch an even bigger wooden tent. AnonymousDec 03 2009 4:12pm #0045 - (Fri.) * 12/4/09 UpdateDec 03 2009 11:42pm #39 Anonymous, and you baice this on what info. from what study JackDec 03 2009 11:56pm There is no study, because it is a false statement! Being fat is strong? Wrong! Being fat means your overall physical condition is weak. Less endurance and more stress to the cardiovascular system. Even if you have muscular power, it is useless if you are fat and out of breath. If Tanya even exists, she is a fat slob. DirkDec 04 2009 10:33am Dirk is the only one here who makes any sense. AnonymousDec 04 2009 10:34am 5`9 185 can be fat. But she can be big boned and athletic, so its all muscle. You are right though on one thing, being fat is not strong. You cant be strong if the majority of your weight is around your waist AnonymousDec 04 2009 7:00pm #0050 - (Sat.) * 12/5/09 UpdateDec 04 2009 9:46pm fantasies?? Male inferiority is a FACT and since women are the superior gender, most of the males who have these so called "fantasies" only have the balls to admit their balls are what make them inferior. Why do you think so many males want to punish themselves with the focus on busting their balls? Perhaps they are mad at their own balls. KathyJun 06 2010 9:13am Your all a riot. LOVE the fat WOMEN big asses + big shoulders SnugglesOct 28 2010 4:19am to the the 5'9" 185, we dont know if your big AND hot or just big unless we actually SAW you SnugglesOct 28 2010 4:22am I do not have submissive fantasies I have submissive realities but only with my wife in the bedroom either wrestling or sex. In the business world I have always been in control. I started and owned the company. I sold it and retired at 45. My haven has always been wrestling and sex where I do not have to be in control and am free to submit. Many successful business men are this way. My wife loves to submit me wrestling and I love being submitted. My strength can get me a couple if early wins. Her stamina gets her as many as she wants which us usually 6 to10 in an hour. Then she dictates the sexual menu fir the night. I am the mist fortunate man in the world. By the way I am 8" taller and 70lbs heavier and she stll wins. WrestleDadNov 15 2010 7:32pm Iam very submissive and love to dominate by smaller women i am 6 3 wt 215 and would never be submissive to a stronger woman but the taught of some woman 5 3 110 lbs can control you totally it feels like heaven i am 58 and was born this way,all men are submissive one way or another, i can bet that you fantise of a woman just sexually doing whatever she wants with you johnMay 24 2011 1:08pm Alright so my case is a bit unusual. i'm a fairly tall male about 6'1, 190-200 lbs, really into strength training and martial arts. i'm attracted to larger women of medium to tall height but i get hot both by both positions where i'm dominating and being dominated. by dominated i dont mean beatings and all that stuff, just a big woman climbing on me in raw passion, holding me down and pleasurably having her way with me. its probably not even real dominating cause it's still voluntary by my part cause i've yet to meet a lady who could take me on my feet (not saying one doesnot exist) i'll have to put my self in a compromising position so the dominating can then begin i.e. sit on me in a way that i cant use the larger muscles required to move them though i can escape most of these with technique except probably a face sit. anyway point is i see combinations of small weak men liking domination, large men liking domination by smaller women, men who are dominant in real life being dominated in bed and submissive men liking being dominated. i'm neither of these....more or less average size, dont like being dominated in real life, stubborn, but i'm not just a sucker for having a woman dominate me sexually but i also like having a big woman beneath me squeal in ecstasy and have no idea how the two merge. anyone have any idea how this is possible? AnonymousAug 17 2011 1:01pm i am over 6 feet and 210 lbs, and just love to have a girl 5ft. 2 to 4 inches, do me what ever she wants, it is the greatest sensation ever to worship obey and serve her subalways2001Jun 21 2012 9:31am women are superior to men , a woman can call you with her little finger, and you will run to her, she then start fundle you AND WHAT DO YOU DO JUST STAND AND LET HER HSVE HER WAY DOUBT THAT DOORMATSLAVEJun 21 2012 9:35am hi Tanya,i am 140lb 5ft 7inch man,can u overpower me? servo900c@gmail.comSep 12 2012 7:09am I am a submissive man who sees female domination as an emotional need for me. A 6'5" 250 man can be dominated by a small woman. It's not about physical strength alone. Physical power can be incorporated into the mans fantasy. I would submit to a dominant female, even if I was a very large man. I would have a desire to submit no matter what. I would be on my knees asking her "How may I serve my lady" and would be very happy to do it. DanMar 09 2013 1:50am all men ar submissive but they have to reach the right woman doormatslaveMay 16 2013 8:11am BMSMJl Thanks for the blog.Really looking forward to read more. Fantastic. FZstBysZPKjSep 06 2013 6:10pm Very common, and here's why. In late pre-teen and teen years, boys are frequently under the authority of women - babysitters, female teachers, female Vice-principals and principals, school nurses, etc. (yes mothers and older sisters are on the list but let's not go there to protect moral sensibilities - though step-mothers and step-sisters can and often do figure into these situations). It reads like a "Who's who in boys fantasies". These situations are not necessarily sexual (I'm giving the women involved the benefit of the doubt here), but are perceived as such by boys discovering their sexuality. The babysitter spanks (perhaps his bare butt naked)and bathes the young boy(obviously naked perhaps even undressed by her), with the incidental contact becoming sexually meaningful to the boy. The boy learns that there are significant consequences to not obeying her. His surrender to her is linked to the pleasure he feels from her touch as he is bathed. He also learns that even a female just a few years older than him can wield this power - contributing to his feeling of powerlessness and need to comply to "a girl". The female teacher judges, scolds and (in the old days) spanks the young boy (perhaps again his bare butt naked) - again significant consequences for not pleasing and obeying a female authority. Female Vice-principals and Principals are also female authority figures that wield punishment, figuratively or (in the old days) literally (remember the "Board of Education"). The young boy learns that failure to please/obey his teacher will put him at greater peril with an even more powerful female. School nurses, while not sources of punishment, are sources of pain and embarrassment. We are ordered to remove our clothes by a uniformed female stranger. The uniform indicates her authority over us. We are completely naked and exposed and subject to her gaze, her touch, her probing (does anyone remember the "turn your head and cough" sessions?) her measuring (Do they still weigh and measure boys completely naked or measure a boy's intimate anatomy?). We feel a loss of control (disorienting drugs and medical restraint) and infliction of pain (with scary needles, and other frightening medical equipment). Add to this the non-sexual authority of the mother or older sisters or implied sexual authority of a step-mother or older step-sisters and you have a boy's world utterly dominated by women of authority who are older, bigger, and far more powerful than them. Even if these women commit no sexual violation, the incidental contact and message is that the boy must obey women and do his best to please women in authority over him. In an adolescent boy heading for, or going through, puberty these experiences become "sexualized". On top of this, most female authority figures are in their 30's, at the height of their sexual power and attractiveness. Boys just entering the sexual world are at the height of their sexual need and confusion, ill-equipped to deal with the visual and pheremonal stimulation they are bombarded with daily. How many boys develop "crushes" on their female teachers? (and how many female teachers sexually prey on young boys under their authority?). Incidental genital contact during spanking (between a boys genitals and the woman's thighs, whether the boy is naked or not, inextricably links sexual stimulation with pain and humiliation at the hands of a powerful women. When a female authority figure forces a boy to pull down his pants and "assume the position" for spanking or paddling or, even worse, takes physical control of the boy, forcibly pulls his pants down and forces him into "the position" for corporal punishment, she is training him to be submissive to her and all other women. Perception becomes reality for the boy even if every female authority figure acts innocently. I think these factors are the leading causes of male submissiveness. Our need to please and obey women becomes a comfortable role we play out again and again as we date (with the reward of sex for proper submissive behavior) and eventually marry (Yes,dear - need I say more?). Add to this mix a woman or women who do enjoy humiliating, punishing or controlling a boy for their sexual amusement or fulfillment of some sort of power trip, and you would have a chronic male submissive that may take it to the extremes of humiliation, pain, and enslavement. 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