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Our cousin took off her shirt and my brother felt her up for a while, I was very jealous watching and I got hard. Then my cousin said we should compare c*cks, and she would give the winner a BJ. I knew I would lose this, but he grabbed me and forced me to agree. I still had no pubic hair at all and my they both laughed when they saw, my cousin measured my erection and it was less than 2 inches. Then my brother dropped his pants, and he was flaccid and he was still twice my size. She measured and he was 4 inches soft, then he felt her up a bit more to get hard and she measured again, he was 6.25 inches. I could tell my cousin was pretty horny as well, and she gave him 2 BJs in a row, right there in front of me. sub_broApr 28 2021 5:18pm How big soft is he now? AnonymousApr 28 2021 5:20pm Last time I measured he was more than 6 inches hard, so more than twice the size of my erection. Even when he was 8, his flaccid dick was larger than my erection is now. How about you, how does the current and the 8yo version of my brother compare to your size? sub_broApr 28 2021 5:29pm I meant that he was more than 6 inches soft last time i measured, he's much bigger hard. And he's definitely gotten bigger since I last measured, I can feel the difference. sub_broApr 28 2021 8:33pm did the discord server go down? sub_broApr 29 2021 5:02am I'm 17yo, and I have an adopted autistic little brother who's 6. Apparently he was also born with some extremely rare genetic mutations, which makes him grow like crazy. As a result, he's already 6'10 tall, and due to his autism, tends to act like an overgrown toddler. He's also naturally really beefy, so while he have quite a huge round belly, his muscles are naturally massive, making him extremely strong and heavy. One of his mutation was extreme testicular hypertrophy coupled with macrophallus. As a result, he's also massive between his legs, and not shy about it either, letting it flop around while he runs around in the house... I'm sad for him because of his mental condition, but also kinda jealous of his physical condition. We have a pretty close relationship, due to the fact that I often have to take care of him, since our parents are always at work. It's a good thing that he's quite nice, otherwise I don't know how I could deal with him! Little big brotherApr 29 2021 6:51am @Anonymous are you still here? My brother is at the house of one of his girlfriends and I'm bored, I want to tell people about him. Anyone got any more questions? sub_broApr 29 2021 7:55am @sub_bro - what was your brother doing with his gf? AnonymousMay 01 2021 2:06pm He's actually still there, and it's two of his girlfriends. Our dad is away on a business trip for a few days, and when that happens my brother usually either brings one or more of his girlfriends to stay in our house, or he goes to stay in one of their's. Right now he's in the apartment of two roommate college girls. He's constantly horny and, while most days he has sex with at least one girl, when he's at home he usually only has me to take that out on. So when he can spend several days living with his some of his girlfriends he always takes full advantage of that, I imagine they're f*cking all day long. I'm looking forward to when he comes back, I'm pretty pent up from being away from him for a few days. sub_broMay 01 2021 5:03pm Does he enjoy comparing his body to yours? AnonymousMay 02 2021 11:16am Well he f*cks me almost every day, so it's impossible to avoid comparing himself to me. Sometimes he rests his dick on top of mine just to emphasize the size difference, his is about 3 times bigger. When he was 8 and 9, after the first time we measured and he got his first BJ, he used to compare himself to me all the time. Now I've accepted the situation and it doesn't bother me that he's so far superior to me, but back then it was very humiliating. He had also learned he was much stronger than me, so when our dad wasn't around he often beat me up and I generally had to do what he said. He used to make me measure him regularly to check his progress, and every time I would have to measure myself as well. His dick grew an extra inch every year, whereas mine has hardly grown at all, less than one inch in more than 3 years. He used to love pinning me to the ground and laying his dick on my chest, or on top of my dick. When our dad wasn't home he almost always walked around naked, and often he ordered me to do the same, so I was constantly being reminded of his superiority. He also compared our development in other ways, it wasn't long before he had armpit, chest, and facial hair, while I stayed completely bare. I eventually grew some pubes and I have a tiny amount of armpit hair now, but to this day I don't have any other body hair. sub_broMay 02 2021 12:02pm hi sub_bro. Thanks for diverting me to this site. Thanks for your details too. very erotic. thanks too for your request for questions. Let's start with the above post. tell us about his chest and facial hair; his age this development occurred; how he continues to get you to be submissive to him; how does he initiate his daily contacts? 2021May 02 2021 2:52pm hi again sub_bro. i have re-read your posts and wow, gosh, gee. you want to tell us about your brother and his girlfriends so... a) did you watch him lose his virginity at 9? how did you find out about it? b) how did he acquire 20 year olds? c) How did he go about even getting girls from your class? d) when he brings them home for the week do they make out in your presence and make you watch or do you sneak-peek? e) do the girls make you compare with sidebyside comparisons? f) what was the most humuliating event for you? g) Asking him to f* you: can you expand on that conversation and how you approached him? 2021May 02 2021 4:02pm Lotta questions, but I'm happy to answer them, I'm looking forward to when he comes back and in the mean time it helps to talk about him. I first saw his pubes shortly after he turned 8, so he probably started growing them some time when he was still 7. He had armpit hair before he was 9, and he started growing his first facial and chest hair not long after he turned 9 I think. These days he shaves his face, chest, and usually his pubes as well. He doesn't need to get me to be submissive anymore, I submit willingly. I usually initiate our daily contacts, most days I wake up before him and go into his bedroom. He almost always already has his morning wood boner, so I crawl under the covers and wake him up with a BJ, I like that I'm the first one to make him cum every day. When he wants more throughout the day he just calls or beckons and I come running. sub_broMay 02 2021 6:47pm A) I did watch him lose his virginity. He had been "dating" the sister of my friend, she was 14 at the time and a year younger than me. I had had a crush on her since I was 12, so it was very painful for me. They had been doing a lot of sexual stuff, often in front of me, but she had been waiting to go all the way until his 9th birthday, as a present. They were going to do it in our house, right after school, before our dad got home. I knew it was going to happen and I wanted to be out of the house, but my brother said I had to be there, he said it was so I could watch out in case our dad came home early but I think he also wanted me to see. I ended up watching the whole thing, and I was extremely jealous, but at this point I was only jealous of my brother and not of his girlfriend. His dick was over 7 inches now, so she was very loud. They were at it for hours, they were lucky our dad didn't come home until late or he would have caught them. B) I'm not exactly sure of the details, he's pretty famous in our neighborhood and our school and the girls (and guys) talk about him a lot among themselves, so I think sometimes they come to him. Most of his girlfriends are teenagers, but the two he's with right now are 20 or 21. I think one of them is the sister of one of his other girlfriends, and the other is her roommate. C) Same answer as before, mostly. He's actually in the same school as me, he started 1st grade a year early and later he skipped 5th grade. Our school is 7th grade to senior, and he was in the 7th grade at the age of 10. So he's obviously very well known in the school for his exploits, and even girls in my grade are drawn to him. He had already been having frequent sex with several partners for a year before he joined my school, but after he started 7th grade he really went crazy, mostly because he now had access to a big pool of potential partners. D) When one of his girlfriends comes over they make out and have sex openly, often on the couch in the living room, and they don't mind at all if I watch. E) quite a few of the girls have done that, made me stand next to him or put our dicks side by side to compare, sometimes holding both of them in each hand to feel the difference. Before he started f*cking me it was horribly humiliating, but now I like it. I remember one time when a girlfriend exclaimed that his was as thick as her wrist, and mine was about as thick as her finger. F) I don't get humiliated anymore, or at least I don't find the humiliation unpleasant, but before that became the case my life was a constant stream of humiliation. It's hard to think of a specific instance that was the most humiliating, I'll think about it and get back to you. G) So at this point he was about a month away from turning 11, and he had already been f*cking me for a few months. I hated it at first, but then after he'd spent a week only f*cking his girlfriend, I realized that I was actually craving it very badly, I had been watching them and imagining myself in place of his girlfriend. One day I went into his room, they were both naked and his girlfriend was passed out on the bed with cum leaking out of her. My brother asked me what I wanted and I was staring down at the ground, it was very hard for me to say the words. Eventually I said something like "I'd like you to f*ck me please". My brother laughed and made me say it again, louder. He said he knew this was going to happen, and he woke up his girlfriend so she could hear me say it again. Then he got me to suck his dick for a while, before he put it in my ass. Feel free to ask any more questions, but I probably won't be able to answer them until tomorrow. sub_broMay 02 2021 6:57pm wow! thanks for the experiences. while on the one hand we can all say that this is all about genetics, which none of us have any control over, it is harder to accept when the age difference is so great. Six years. i can only imagine how humiliating it has been for you, especially when this is no longer a private issue between he and yourself, but probably every girl knows the difference. (H) how tall is he and how tall are you? does he look 11 or does he look older? At 17, how old do some girls think you look? (I) you said you had 'horribly humiliating experiences' and couldn't think of the worst. Actually, would you like to share say five of those horribly humiliating experiences? you said you had a constant stream of humiliation. You don't have to rank them. I would be interested in all of your experiences. Has he the strength to f-you standing up? (J) i gather that your parents know nothing about his exploits. Do they comment on your physical differences? (K) Is he likely to give you details of his experiences with the 20 year olds? has he bragged about his conquests before? (L) of all the events you witnessed with your own eyes, what was the age difference between him and the girl that made you most jealous of all? (M) you said that he had frequent sex with partners. Can you explain what you mean here? I can only imagine and empathize with you on all this, watching a younger brother who is six years your junior being the man of the moment. 2021May 02 2021 9:36pm upon re-reading all of your posts, I only just spotted a question you asked me:-how does the current and 8 yr old version of your brother compare with me. Well, i am now only 4-1/2 inches hard. there are several stories i can share. when I was 13, I only had a soft 3/4 inch nub which grew to a thinish 3 incher which was like a standard candle. I had a billet (another 13 year old who was from another school staying the night). he was one month younger than me. While i was the late bloomer, he was an early developer. I was 5foot 2, he was 5foot 9. My eyes came up to his chin. My thin chest/frame fitted between his shoulders with room to spare. My mother left the house to engage in some late-night shopping and this game him an hour to reveal himself. He asked my age and stood me in front of a full length mirror for a full on body comparison. he had spotted me emerge from the shower with this 3/4 inch button, before i had time to cover up. He asked me straight out if i was a late developer and i said yes. He asked if i wanted to see what an early developer looks like and suggested that I slowly drop his boxers. As i did, a vast spread of black pubes appeared that just got progressively thicker, then this tube that i event-ually measured at 8.2 inches. He told me to play with his equipment; asked me if I could cum and the answer was 'no.' so he used two or three fingers while he said me on his lap. I made that 'I want to pee' statement to which he grinned then had an intense dry orgasm, my very first. It was so intense, it was like my peepee wanted to push something out. Then he made me wank him, something i didn't know anything about. finally he dumped a huge load on my hairless crotch and fed it to me on his finger, telling me it was pure protein that would make me a man. (to be continued) 2021May 02 2021 10:07pm It was hard to accept. After a few months of f*cking me he kinda "broke" me, like how you have to "break" a horse to the saddle, though that analogy isn't perfect as he's the one who's like a horse. Now I've fully come to terms with his superiority and it doesn't bother me at all, if anything I enjoy it. But it took a long time for that to happen, and for almost 3 years between our first comparison (and his first BJ) when he was 8 and I was 14 and just a few months ago I was constantly feeling humiliated and inferior. I'm much happier now, I honestly wish he'd started f*cking me earlier so I could have reached this state sooner. Yeah, everyone in my school knows about my brother which means they also know about me. H) He's very tall for his age and I'm very short, but I'm still a little taller than him. I'm 5'4", and he's 5'1" or 5'2". When he's clean shaven and fully clothed he looks older than he is, but not by that much, he fits in pretty well with the other 8th grade boys in his class. I look much younger than I am, I think people assume I'm about 14. H) I've already talked about some of the worst experiences. The first time we compared and our cousin gave him a BJ, watching him lose his virginity to the girl I'd had a crush on for years, when one of his girlfriends pointed out his dick was as thick as her wrist and mine was as thick as her finger. There were a few times when he called me into his room after he was done f*cking a girl and made me clean up after them, one time they went into my room and did it on my bed while they were waiting for me to finish. I'll write down some more later in a separate comment. Yeah, he can easily f*ck me standing up, one of his favorite ways is to put me against a wall with my back to him and enter me that way, he often does that in the shower. J) Our dad knows a little bit about his exploits, he knows he's lost his virginity and I haven't, but he isn't aware at all of the scale of his endeavors or about what he does to me now. He certainly doesn't know that my brother used to f*ck our dad's girlfriend before they broke up. K) He's always bragged about his conquests to me, before it was to make me jealous but now I enjoy hearing about them. He used to essentially torture me by describing what he did in great detail and showing me pictures of the girls. I'm sure he'll tell me all about what he did with the college girls when he comes back home, we both like it when he does that while I'm sucking him off. L) The age difference between him and the girl made it worse, I suppose I would have been slightly less jealous if it had all been girls closer to his own age. Watching him f*ck girls my age, in my grade in school, was very humiliating. Mostly it was the age difference between him and me that made me jealous, the fact that I was watching my 10yo brother having sex with dozens of different girls while 16yo me was a virgin was extremely humiliating, and knowing that my tiny dick would never be able to give anyone the kind of pleasure he was giving to them made it worse. M) I meant that was the case before he entered my school, when he was in the 6th grade. After he lost his virginity on his 9th birthday he continued having sex with that same girl, and there were 4 or 5 others he did occasionally as well. There were also a few girls in his class who he did non-penetrative stuff with, he was too big for them. I think in that year he had (penetrative) sex maybe 2 or 3 times a week, and he talked about getting blowjobs and handjobs in his school bathroom most days. After he entered my school and was now in the same building as high school girls it became much more frequent, and this coincided with our dad getting a promotion and working longer hours, meaning he was home less often. After that it was usually at least one girl per day, often several. sub_broMay 03 2021 8:49am The whole situation was pretty horrible until recently, I've basically had an inferiority complex about him since he was born, particularly regarding penis size. I had been teased by kids my own age before my brother was born, so I was already sensitive about it. Like I said before, even as a baby his dick was bigger than mine was at the age of 6, and it remained bigger for our whole lives. I always hated seeing him walk around naked, even as a toddler his dick was about the size that mine is now, and back then it was a constant reminder. He actually commented on the size difference when he was about 3 and I was 9 and we had to take a bath together, but he doesn't remember that. He's been stronger than me for a while, and he's smarter than me as well, he is two grades ahead of other kids his age. 4.5 inches isn't too bad, it's only an inch below average and it's a lot bigger than me. Even so, you're about half the size of my brother's erection, and smaller than his flaccid dick. It's also smaller than his erection was at 8, and only a little bigger than his flaccid dick was back then. I'm not sure how old he was when he surpassed your current size, he was definitely bigger when he was 7 and probably before he turned 7 as well. I'm interested to hear what happened next with the 13yo, and about other similar experiences you've had. What else do you want to know about me and my brother? sub_broMay 03 2021 8:59am Hi again. Thanks for your lengthy post. On a separate topic, i was a keen reader of all the 'younger brother' posts on Likelike, but never came across this one 'Younger is better' it never came up in the list. I only discovered it two days ago, quite by chance. I suspect that not too many people have discovered it either. I discovered 'humiliated about penis size' by chance and you alerted me to 3755. Like all the other LL posts, this one might seize up sooner or later. i find discord difficult to enter and to find anything, and it seems like you do to. (Another post coming soon) 2021May 03 2021 11:46am Thanks again for being open to question. i had a few more question yesterday after re-reading your posts over and over. (N) how does it help you to talk about him in LikeLike, rather than keep this a secret? I sense you have a need to talk about the humiliation and the excitement of your brother's experience. How has this helped you so far? (O) to see facial and chest hair developing on a boy six years your junior would add to the humiliation. How often does he shave now? Is it a daily affair? How does it use his facial and chest hair to further humiliate you? i am surprised he shaves his chest hair; most boys would want to parade it to others. (P) You mentioned that he went 'crazy' when he arrived in the high school building and have sex every day would be an example of this. That is huge. I want to comment on this in a separate post.(Q) Dad's girlfriend:- OMG! how old was she? She must be the oldest he has done it with! Did you witness this with your own eyes? How often did this occur? (R) how come he can stay at his girlfriend's house or with these college girls without your parents knowing or objecting? (R) I sense that your 11 year old brother has 'done it' now say, 300+ times verses your zero. That must play on your mind a lot as well as the fact that those girls just look at you and don't give you a second thought after they know you have seen it all, and still in the room. This also indicates what girls want, which says a lot about them. (S) you said that he is now over 8.75 inches. OMG again. And you are still 3.0 right? drawing those two sizes on a piece of paper highlight the difference. Does he penetrate you all the way?, ie. 8.75. Side by side comparisons would be very humiliating. His helmet would be half your entire length and your soft would fit entirely in the helmet area, i suspect. All of this must be constantly on your mind. (T) hope you recall a few other 'horrible' past humiliations. (U) i am imagining your craving. Saying those words while seeing one of his girlfriends passed out and oozing 2021May 03 2021 12:22pm to sub_bro: continuing my billet story. he stood up and pulled me into his frame. he was 5'9 to my 5'2: my head was on his chest. he fingered me and i wasn't sure why he was doing that. I was on tippytoe. After a while, he lifted me up by the armpits so that we were eye to eye, then he lifted me further and tried to get his mouth around my peepee. He succeeded and twirled his tongue around my slit. a range of high pitched baby sounds came from me. then he settled me down slowly on to his erect appendage and moved his helmet into my hole. Being innocent, i was not prepared for what was to happen next. Now i know that he was too big for me and it took ages for any penetration to occur. Slowly more and more of his shaft entered and i was screaming internally. He had his hand on my mouth so that i wouldn't wake the neighbourhood. my legs were wrapped around his torso by now and he was trying to use my weight to penetrate further. This is what i meant when i asked if your brother f'ed you standing up. I was off the ground. i think he got half in before he put me down. i only had one experience with this boy and it is etched in my mind. So i can only imagine what is etched in yours. 2021May 03 2021 12:35pm / AnonymousMay 03 2021 6:59pm I've seen other comments saying that the threads now get locked after about 300 comments, and the other threads that have stopped working recently have about that many comments, so that seems to be true. This one should be fine for a while. N)____ Most of the people I know are aware of what my brother is like and what our relationship is like, so keeping it a secret is out of the question even if it's what I wanted. I get pretty pent-up and frustrated when he's away from me for too long, I find it hard to stop thinking about him, and telling other people about him relieves a lot of that. O)____ His hair growth did add to the humiliation, seeing him with body hair while I still didn't even have pubes. He shaves his face every day, often twice, and he shaves his chest a couple times a week i think. I'm not sure why he shaves it now, I guess he just prefers it. When he first started growing his chest hair he was proud of it, but at this point everyone knows how impressive he is, so he's past the point of needing to show off. P)____ When he was in the 6th grade the oldest girls in his school were 11 and 12, so there weren't many viable targets for him. When he got to my school the girls were 13-18, so there were potential partners everywhere, and it didn't take him long to get started on them. He'd already f*cked a couple of girls from that school, including the one he lost his virginity with, so he already had a reputation. Soon, almost every day he was either going home with one or two of them after school, or more commonly he brought one or two of them to our house, since our dad was spending a lot more time at work at that point. He also had sex in school pretty often, usually he made me stand guard to warn him if someone was coming. Q)____ My dad's (now ex) girlfriend is in her late 20s or early 30s, about 10 years younger than our dad. She might be the oldest one he's f*cked, though he's also f*cked at least one of his teachers. It didn't happen that often, he's very serious about preventing our dad from finding out about his exploits, particularly this one, and she wasn't around often when our dad wasn't there. I think they started at about the same time he started f*cking me, I had strongly suspected it for a while by the way they interacted, and I saw my brother with his hand on her ass a few times when our dad wasn't looking. I found out for sure soon after he "broke" me, when I went to his room to give him his morning BJ and found she had beaten me to it. She was very enthusiastic about him and there were a couple of very close calls with her where my dad almost caught them, my brother got annoyed with her a few times. She and my dad broke up recently, for unrelated reasons, but my brother still f*cks her occasionally. Maybe I'll ask him to describe how it started with her when he comes back. R)____ He's very careful not to be found out. Right now our dad's on a business trip, he thinks my brother is at home with me. Other times he tells our dad he's going for a sleepover at a friend's house, and stuff like that. R2)____ His vast experience and my lack of any used to play on my mind a lot, it was one of the most humiliating parts, having a brother so much younger who was so much more of a man than me. Watching him do things at 9 and 10 that I could only dream about doing at 15 and 16 was awful. Like I said, I don't feel that way anymore, now his superiority over me is exciting to me. I never really blamed the girls for not giving me a second look, it's not like guys don't value physical attractiveness as well, and after seeing (and hearing) how my brother can make them feel I couldn't blame them for coming back to him. S)____ Yeah, he was 8.75 last time I measured, but he's definitely grown since then, and I'm pretty sure he's at least 9 inches now. I'm 3 inches, I was 2 inches when I was 14, and I doubt I'll grow any bigger now. As I said before, I'm pretty sure my brother was 3 inches even as a toddler. Yeah, the side-by-side comparisons were the worst back when I still felt humiliated, especially when there were other people in the room. His one is about 3 times thicker as well as being 3 times longer, so the difference is very striking when they're next to each other, it's pretty amazing that human penis size can vary that much at all even if you ignore the age difference. Since he was 8 he'd always gone naked or at least bottomless when our dad wasn't around, so I was constantly being reminded about it. He couldn't fully penetrate me at first, but recently he's been able to, though it's hard work for both of us. I really have to go to sleep now, I'll answer the rest and expand on some things tomorrow, and let me know what else you want me to talk about. sub_broMay 03 2021 8:00pm Hi sub. thanks again. Wow! it has certainly been difficult for you to accept all these events which are in your face daily. (V) for him to shave daily, he must have a significant growth in the morning. Are his hairs blond or black? I remember liking to rub my face against the bearded face of a younger boy. Apart from looking at his facial and chest hair, how did he make it more humiliating for you? You said he compared in other ways. What did he make you DO? (W) How old were you when you could cum? you couldn't at 14, if my memory is correct. (X) you said that even your peers humiliated you. How did that happen? Even some 14 year old boys can look like men. It is difficult enough when a boy the same age as self is well advanced; even more so when a boy is much younger. Seeing him perform with 9 inches doesn't give anyone any confidence that 3 inches or even 5 inches will be good enough. have you ever measured his circumference vs. yours? (Y) i look forward to your expansion on 'some things' tomorrow. i will tell you another story 2021May 03 2021 8:44pm 2nd story:- opposite experience. When i was 15, i had another billet stay, this time for two nights. I was 5'3 I think; he was shorter so probably 5'2", one of the few boys who was smaller than myself. i had some pubes and was probably about 4 - 4 1/2 inches. I thought he was 13 as that is what he looked. once again my mother was out. I asked him his age and was surprised when he told me he was 16. His eyes went down towards the floor and i said 'oh!' This really caught me out. Having had a few other experiences with billets, I felt more confident in raising topics so I asked him: are you a late developer. He answered Yes. Do you have pubes? He answered NO. I told him that i was a late developer as well and that seemed to put us on the same footing. I was as thin and immature looking as he was. I told him that i had just begun puberty at 15 and aged wise, he was only 4 months ahead of me. We discussed the lack of armpit hair, and showed each other our pits. I was courageous enough to ask him the size of his penis, and we compared by 4 against his 3.8. That's not much of a difference. He seemed relieved. He then asked me some questions about what to expect and for the first time in my life, i was advising someone about puberty and stuff. What a joke that was! He showed his appreciation with an enormous hug which brought our bodies together, likewise our little penises. When he left the next day, he left confident that he was being accepted as he was and that there was someone who understood what it was like to be late. 2021May 03 2021 8:55pm I'll answer the other questions first. U)____ Yeah, I was craving it very badly. He'd been f*cking me almost every day for months, and I thought I disliked it, I had orgasms but I thought that was just a natural body reaction to the stimulus and didn't mean anything. But then after not getting f*cked for a week, I realized I couldn't live without it anymore, I couldn't stop thinking about what it felt like, and I started masturbating several times a day while watching my brother have sex with his girlfriend and imagining myself in her place. When I couldn't take it anymore and I actually had to beg him to f*ck me again that was the height of my humiliation, but I never really felt humiliated again after that (or I don't find the humiliation unpleasant), so it was a great thing overall. I'm feeling a similar sense of craving right now, it's been a few days since I've seen my brother, and my dad doesn't know when he'll be back from his trip, so it might even be more than a week before my brother is back, it's going to be tough. V)____ His facial hair does grow very fast, often he shaves in the morning and the afternoon. All his hair is black. I like feeling his face in the evening when he hasn't shaved in the afternoon, it's covered in rough stubble. Especially when he was 8 and 9 he used to compare with me in lots of different ways, hair growth and penis size were the big ones. Muscles were another way, he was already stronger than me at 8 and he always wanted to wrestle, arm wrestle, and lift me up, often in public. He already had abs at 8, and as he started working out a lot more he became very muscular in the next couple of years, and he liked comparing his physique to my skinny body. When he was 8 he masturbated at least 5 times a day, and when he was 9 he still masturbated a lot since he wasn't having sex daily yet. He usually made me clean up after him, including changing his bedsheets. He also made me masturbate in front of him to see if I could cum yet, I couldn't until I was 16, and even now I can only let out a tiny bit. After I had my dry orgasm, my brother would ejaculate on my chest or my crotch. W)____ I answered this in the last section. X)___ When I said that I think I was referring to the times I "played doctor" with other boys my age before my brother was born, obviously we all had small penises since we were only 6, but mine was barely visible, and the other boys teased me about it. That's why I was already sensitive about that, and why I hated it so much that my brother was bigger even as a baby. It is amazing watching him use his 9 incher now, and even apart from his size his technique is very good, and it's his policy to not cum until he's given the girl at least 2 orgasms. He also has no refractory period, he can keep going even after he's cum, so it's obvious why he's so popular. Last time I measured his girth he was about 6.5 inches in circumference, it's probably bigger now. Mine is about 2.5 or 3 inches in circumference, it's hard to use a tape measure with mine. sub_broMay 04 2021 10:59am So for past humiliations, I've already mentioned the first time we compared and watching him get his first BJ, watching him lose his virginity to the girl I had a crush on, the constant comparisons he used to make between his body and mine, being made to clean up after him, his girlfriends commenting on our size difference, and other things. That gives you a pretty good idea of the kind of thing that went on. Since he joined my school he's made me do his bidding in public, sometimes I had to carry his bags or go line up for him at the cafeteria. When he had a few girls over at our house he made me bring them drinks and clean up after them, including wiping everyone down, and he usually made me go naked as well. My dick would often get hard, especially when I was wiping the cum and sweat off his girlfriends' bodies, and he encouraged his girlfriends to mock me about it. One time when I was 15 and he was 9 a girl from my class had to come over to my house to work on a school project, she had always been nice to me and I really liked her. My brother was away, but he came back and went swimming in our pool naked, my classmate was constantly looking out the window at him. He eventually went up to his room, and the girl got up to go to the bathroom. She didn't come back for a few minutes, then I started to hear the moaning. The worst kind of penis size comparisons were when he compared his flaccid dick to my erection. Right now he's over 6 inches flaccid and I'm 3 inches hard, and when I was 14 and he was 8 he was 4 inches soft and I was 2 inches hard. He's always been twice as big soft as I was hard, and for some reason that humiliated me the most, and he often made me make that comparison in front of other people. There were a lot more experiences like that as well, I'll write some more another time. What would you like me to expand on, and what else do you want to know? I could give more details about him and my dad's girlfriend, for example. Your experiences with your two billets are very interesting, did you orgasm when the 13yo penetrated you? It must have been pretty intense, to be lifted by the armpits onto his dick like that. Did you have any more experiences as a result of being a late developer? The 16yo developed even later than me, even I had pubes when I was 16, but his dick was still bigger than mine is now. sub_broMay 04 2021 11:10am Hi Sub. thanks for your two posts. i can see just how deeply all this has affected you and influenced your thinking on a 24/7 basis. Whether he is present or absent, he is dominating your consciousness and your self-esteem. (Z) making you masturbate in front of him from 14 to 16 when you couldn't cum, would have been extremely embarrassing with the age difference and facial hair to add to the scene. You have suffered daily on these issues. If he wasn't your brother but just a school friend, he would have been out-of-mind/out-of-sight but this is the opposite and it is extreme rather than a one-off, like my experience was a one-off. (I will send this now as you are probably online) 2021May 04 2021 12:15pm Yeah, basically my whole life revolves around him, and now I'm completely fine with that. I don't have or need any self-esteem anymore. I'm perfectly happy being subservient to my brother, as long as he f*cks me often enough. When we have to take a break that just makes me appreciate it more, though I hope this one doesn't last too long, maybe if I ask him nicely he'll let me come over to his girlfriends' house for a day. I spent three years suffering under him, but now that I've accepted his superiority I'm much happier. I can still remember what it was like when I was humiliated, though now I enjoy remembering it and talking about it. Z) it was one of the most embarrassing parts, particularly as he had his dick out at the same time, and after my dry orgasm he would spray a huge load right on top of me. When I cum now it's just a few drops, whereas he cums several ropes of the stuff, enough to completely cover my face and chest. What would you like me to expand on, and what other questions do you have? sub_broMay 04 2021 1:05pm hi again. I am grappling with how to respond to you in a personal way while on this public forum. You are raising some very important things here, which can affect the rest of your life. Acceptance of self is a huge theme for anyone and everyone. in one sense, you have accepted that you are a late developer rather than fighting against it. That is a plus. re Z:- yeah, 8.75 vs 3 side by side would not be something one gets over immediately, especially if you retreated to a one inch nub. (Back to A or A2)- his technique. (B2) your dad's girlfriend, (C2) How long before you head off to College? (D2) - wiping them down...omg! (E2) - prior to him heading off to his girls, did you have to ask/beg everyday or did he demand? (F2) - have you ever shaved his face for him? One of my billets made me do this for him. 2021May 04 2021 1:19pm Shaving a billet: when i was 16 (as in my previous story) I had a 14 year old billet stay for two days. He was taller than myself, probably about 5'9" to my 5.3" on the first night at the dinner table, my insensitive mother kept on saying how tall he is for 14. I just put my head down and ate, finishing first so that i could escape to my room under the guise of homework. His facial hair was obvious but not at the stubble stage. I am sure that my mother was attracted to it as she continue to chat with him about his interests, etc. Finally he came to my room; shortly after, my mother said goodnight and wanted us to have lights out my 10.00pm. we agreed. He noticed the lock on my bedroom door and got up and locked it. I thought this was strange. He then sat close and whispered: your mother asked me to talk to you about the birds and the bees. This was the second time this had happened. And now it dawned on me that she was using more mature guys to educated me about the facts of life. 'You look at my face a lot' said he. i couldn't deny it. He took my hand and rubbed it so i could feel the hair. He had some bristle on his Adams apple. 'I need a shave, so would you like to do it for me?' He took my silence for a yes and led me to the ensuite, bringing all his shaving gear with him. He showed me how to use the razor and half way through suggested we do this naked. he stripped first and i saw his 7 incher with heaps of hair. then quietly ordered me to strip. Like you, i know about side by side comparisons. we spend about an hour messing around that first night and repeated the experience on the second night 2021May 04 2021 2:41pm I doubt it's just that I'm a late developer, I don't think I'll develop much more than this. If I'm lucky maybe I'll get another half inch on my dick, and my armpit and pubic hair will probably thicken a bit, but I doubt I'll ever have chest or facial hair, and I won't get much taller. Maybe I will develop some more, but I'd be OK with it if I don't. I take it the rest is things you want me to expand on. A)____ I can't describe his technique very well as I've never had sex (other than with him), but I know his skill doesn't just come from his size. When he was 9 and early 10 I heard several of his girlfriends saying that they had had sex with guys his size before, but none of them were anywhere near as good as him. He's proficient in several different positions and styles, he can moderate his tempo very well, and he's good at inserting his dick to the appropriate depth, since some of his girlfriends can take it all and others can only take the first 6 inches. His endurance is incredible and he can last basically as long as he wants, and his lack of a refractory period means he can stay erect and keep going after he cums. The pleasure he can give to his partners is unbelievable, judging by how they look and sound as they're doing it, and some of them get totally addicted. I've seen girls literally fight over who gets to go next. He also prides himself on his fingering ability, he had a lot of practice from back when he was 8 and 9 and was doing non-penetrative stuff with the girls in his class. The most impressive thing I've ever seen happened shortly after he started at my school. There were 3 girls, all lying on their backs on the bed. My brother was f*cking the one in the middle, and fingering the other two at the same time, all of them were writhing and moaning and he brought all three to orgasm at the same time. B)____ I don't know the details of how it started between my brother and my dad's girlfriend, I'll ask him to describe it when I get the chance, but she became very enthusiastic about him, and took some risks he didn't want to take. She often snuck out of our dad's room when she was staying over and went into my brother's room, and she was much too loud at night. One time all three of us were in his room in the morning, and me and her were sucking him off at the same time, when my dad started looking for her and calling to her. We both had to hide under my brother's bed. I remember another incident where we were watching a movie, my brother and my dad's girlfriend were sitting next to each other with a blanket over their laps, and I could see her repeatedly grab his hand and move it to her crotch, she clearly wanted him to finger her. She kept persisting, so eventually he just got it over with and made her cum in a few seconds, strategically timed so it was during a loud scene in the movie. Another time we were eating dinner, I was sitting next to my brother and I noticed that my dad's girlfriend was under the table, giving him a BJ as we ate. I had to make up a story about how she had a stomach ache and was in the bathroom when my dad wondered where she was. Eventually my brother said he'd stop f*cking her if she wasn't more careful, and that helped. C)____ I started school a bit late, so I'm only in the 10th grade, there are 2 years until I finish high school. I'm going to go to a college in or near where I live now, so I can continue to live with my brother. D)____ Yeah, the wiping down was one of the things I hated the most before he "broke" me. After a long session both my brother and the girl(s) would be covered in a mixture of sweat and natural lubrication, and the girl especially would be covered in cum as well. When they took a break I had to clean up, including wiping the floors and changing the sheets, and my brother also made me wipe them both down with a towel. It was one of the most humiliating things he made me do, but it was also the only time I got to touch a girl like that, so it sometimes gave me an erection, and my brother would mock me about it and encourage the girl to do the same. E)____ It's a bit of both. Sometimes he calls me and I come running, sometimes I ask him if I can give him a BJ or if he can f*ck me. Occasionally he teases me by putting his dick against my ass without penetrating me, and makes me beg before he'll do it. Generally he's always up for something when none of his girlfriends are around and we're not in danger of our dad catching us, so I don't have to try very hard. For BJs most of the time I don't even have to ask, often I already have his dick in my mouth before our dad's car leaves the driveway. I also usually wake him up with a BJ, and sometimes when he's playing video games I just kneel down in front of him and put him in my mouth. He hasn't masturbated at all since he started f*cking me, a couple of times he's gotten horny in the middle of the night and come into my room. F)____ I've shaved his face a couple of times, but I'm not very good at it as I've never done it to myself, so he prefers to do that himself. I do shave his body for him though, he's been making me do that for a while and I'm better at it than he is. That 14yo billet, is he the boy you mentioned before, when you said you used to like rubbing your face against the bearded face of a younger boy, or was that a different boy? You said your mother was attracted to him, was that awkward or embarrassing for you? I'm assuming nothing happened between them as he only stayed for 2 days, but has anything ever happened between her and another boy? Fortunately that's a humiliation I never had to endure with my brother, since we both have the same mother and we don't even live with her. And your experience with the 13yo billet, how do you feel about that now, did you have an orgasm when he penetrated you? Feel free to ask me all the questions you want, I have a lot more to say about me and my brother, and I like being prompted. sub_broMay 04 2021 6:24pm Hi and thanks. i have to go out right now and won't be back for several hours. what time is it where you live. a quick answer: the 14 year old was a different boy to the first 13 year old. No orgasm with the 13 yr old; nothing happened between the 14 yr old and my mother. i need to re-read your last post 2021May 04 2021 7:20pm i want to write something personal to you and this is a public forum. is there another way i can contact you 2021May 04 2021 7:21pm I'd rather keep it on this site if that's OK, I don't mind that it's public. I guess I could make an email account and post it here, but I don't really like the idea of doing that. I meant that when you said you used to like rubbing your face against the bearded face of a younger boy, was that boy the 14yo you mentioned before? Did you read my last comment yet? sub_broMay 05 2021 1:32pm Hi. that's fine regarding keeping this public. Yes to your question about the bearded 14 year old. 2021May 05 2021 1:36pm I think lots of people would be fascinated to see a young guy (14 yr) with a daily growth. Imagine if he didn't shave for a few days. A face with facial hair implies advanced development in other areas and everyone would have their personal fantasies. The billets are only around for a day or two and they are usually only in the house in the evenings. (G) - i cannot think of any questions at the moment despite the fact that you like to be prompted. the only prompt i have at the moment is your comment: 'I have a lot more to say about me and my brother.' 2021May 05 2021 1:42pm Sub:- you are not done growing yet. Sometimes late developers have a REALLY huge growth spurt where they overtake their younger brothers. Live in hope. yet your have realistic; your development is very likely to continue, you will probably never get chest hair (and that's OK). you need to not use your brother as a yardstick. 99% of guys his age and older will be unable to compete with him. One of the aims or goals of every guy is to accept himself as he is and sure, it is easier for those who have nothing to be embarrassed about. But the physically mature will have their own issues to deal with. for instance, while he's got the girls, he might never have a satisfying personal relationship with a girl. (more about this later perhaps) 2021May 05 2021 2:09pm I'll probably develop a bit more, but not by that much, I've been told by a doctor that my final height is very unlikely to exceed 5'6". My development has actually slowed down recently, between 14 and 16 it was a slow but consistent process, but now I'm basically the same as I was a year ago. I used to agonize about it, but now it doesn't make any difference to me, if I develop more then that's fine, and if I don't then that's equally fine. There's a 0% chance I'll ever come anywhere close to where my brother is now, or even to where my brother was when he was 9, but that doesn't bother me at all anymore. I find it hard to think of what to say without some questions or requests to guide me. I guess I'll give you more examples of humiliating incidents from before he "broke" me. The first one ever was something I mentioned before, when my brother was 3 and I was 9, and we had to take a bath together. I don't know exactly how big either of us were back then, but he was much bigger than I was, I think he might have been about the size I am now, though it's hard to say. He was curious about our size difference, and I distinctly remember him saying "Why is your peepee so small? Don't they get bigger when you get older? How come mine's bigger?" I was already sensitive about it, and that was etched into my mind for a long time. There was the time when he was 8 and I was 14 and the cousin of our's who gave him his first BJ came to stay with us for a couple of days. She gave him more BJs and handjobs, and taught him how to finger her. Our parents had left me in charge and I tried to make them stop, but they were both stronger than me and I ended up locked in one of the bathrooms, and I could still hear them. My brother also sometimes used to compare me to his girlfriends, many of them were taller, heavier, and stronger than me, and he liked to make me arm wrestle those ones, and sometimes even wrestle them. The worst was when I was 16 and I lost both contests against a tall (taller than me), athletic, tomboy-ish 13yo girlfriend of his. When I was 15 and my brother was 9 we were on vacation and we were staying with the family of my dad's old friend. They had a daughter who was a year younger than me, and I was good friends with her when we were young, though I hadn't seen her in years since her family moved away. Her, my brother, and me were all sleeping in the same room, with me and my brother on a bunk bed and the girl on her own bed. It took my brother a few hours to seduce her, and they spent the whole night having sex on the top bunk, while I was lying underneath them on the bottom bunk, masturbating to the sound of her moans. There was one incident from last year that isn't too bad in itself, but it's emblematic of what my school life was like since my brother joined. I was sitting in the cafeteria reading about a fairly niche video game on my phone, when a girl from my class noticed and said she played that game too. She sat down and we had a long conversation about it, I was really enjoying it. Then my brother got her attention, he was standing next to the bathroom door, and he just used one finger to beckon her. The girl basically sprinted over to him, and they went into the bathroom together. About 15 minutes later she came out and walked back to the table to continue our conversation, while some of my brother's cum was still visible on her cheek and in her hair. The kind of incidents I described here were so common none of them are that noteworthy, there was at least one every week. I'm sure you can understand why I'm so much more content now after he "broke" me and I don't feel humiliated by my brother's prowess and superiority anymore, these sorts of things still happen but I actually enjoy them now. I also get the sexual pleasure he gives me, and he gets a partner who is conveniently always near him, and who gives the best BJs. The only downside is the frustration and craving I'm feeling now, when he's away. Please let me know what you want to hear more about, and what I should expand on. And do you have any thoughts about what I said in my last long message, or in this one? sub_broMay 05 2021 6:49pm Thanks for asking about my thoughts on your last two long messages. I actually do. Have given you my first thought about YOU and your future growth. i might not be able to reply immediately owing to other things going on. 2021May 05 2021 7:15pm Hi again. you are probably not online right now. You have asked for my thoughts on the last two of your long posts, so thank you for asking. The thoughts that follow might not be what you are expecting. #-1: I want to say that what follows is based on my overall concern for you and your brother. It is about both your overall happiness, mental health and futures. It may well come about that these reflections might assist other people who read these posts. Your stories and others are all 'wow' type stories; my 'wows' are more 'red-flag' type responses. My first reflection has already been mentioned and that is about your future growth and development. It is good that you have had medical advice, and your various comments that, right now, you are more accepting of your reality, has positive dimensions to it. It will be a constant battle as you are destined to be living with your brother for years to come. ##-2: Your brother has a huge problem. You used the word ADDICTION and applied it to the girls. Actually, I am concerned about your brother's addiction. He is at an age where other 11 year olds are absorbed in internet gaming and Lego, etc. Meanwhile he is already a SEX Addict of enormous proportions. And he is unable to control himself. HE NEEDS HELP. Unfortunately you are unable to be the big brother here. Your dad needs to know just what has been going on. It is not normal for an 11 year old to be having sexual relations with 22 yr olds. They are exploiting him just as he is exploiting them and all the other younger girls in his life. Your dad's absence has created this opportunity for him to run uncontrollably. You know about craving; he is feeding his craving and it only gets bigger for him with every contact he makes. His lust increases and each day, this craving needs another (willing) victim to satisfy his needs. This pattern needs to be terminated. Your dad needs to know. Just how you reveal all this is going to be tricky. (i will stop here for now and wait for your response) 2021May 05 2021 9:33pm I had a re-read of your last post about the bunk experience and the game incident at school. How awful for you: to be in the bottom bunk while your 9 yr old brother was up top and you at 15 were still a year away from cumming. i feel for you. The school story just show the power your brother has over girls so much older than him. Do you know if any of the girls has ended up pregnant? I was going to talk about this later in my ### reflection 2021May 06 2021 1:46am I guess you could describe my brother as a sex addict, but I don't think it's really a psychological addiction in the same way people can get addicted to a video game. He certainly has an excessive amount of sex hormones in his body, which led to his early puberty, though our dad has taken him to doctors several times, first when he was 8, and was advised that no medical intervention was necessary. He also has hyperspermia. This just leads to a naturally massive libido, if he wasn't having sex he'd be masturbating 10 times a day. My point is that it isn't a psychological complex, it's purely physical and chemical. Obviously his behavior isn't normal for his age, but nothing about him is normal for his age (including his intelligence) so it doesn't make sense to judge him by that standard. It's definitely not accurate to say that his girlfriends are exploiting him, even the ones twice his age. He has all of the power in their relationships. The only partner of his who could have been considered exploitative his our dad's girlfriend, but that stage didn't last long, he got her to stop behaving like that. I suppose our cousin kind-of exploited him back when he was 8 as well, but that's not really relevant anymore. It's not fair to say he's exploiting any of his partners either, almost all of them are at least 4 years older than him, it's entirely consensual, and they are just as into it as he is, usually even more so. There's no way I could possibly tell my dad about him without his permission, even if I wanted to it's just not something I'd be capable of doing. That whole avenue is a total non-starter. Our dad already knows he's sexually active, and while he doesn't know the scale, I don't even think he'd mind that much anyway. To your second message: My brother is pretty careful with contraception, his regular girlfriends are all on the pill and he uses condoms with the ones who aren't. There still have been a couple of pregnancies, but as far as I know all of them have ended in abortions very early in the pregnancy. Whenever any teacher or the mother of any of the students get pregnant there are always rumors in the school that it's my brother's doing, but none of them have been women who I have seen my brother f*cking. Still, I can't discount the possibility that one or two of them are his, so it's not impossible that he might have a kid out there somewhere. The incidents I described were awful for me at the time, but now I enjoy remembering these sort of incidents and telling people about them. I need to talk about his exploits some more, so please ask more questions and tell me what you want me to expand on. Any if you've had any other experiences (similar to the ones you've already mentioned) as a result of being a late developer then please share them. sub_broMay 06 2021 7:24am Hi again and thanks for your assessment. Valuable as you know him best. Am glad your dad is in the know about the biological/medical side. You are right in that if one is an early bloomer, one is going to be thinking sexually earlier than a guy who doesn't have those hormones raging in the body. Hormones lead to action and in his case, excessive action. On a scale of actions, it is less risky masturbating 10xtimes per day, than having 2 or 3 sexual encounters per day. ###-3:you have a need to talk about his exploit some more, you claim. Okay. It is difficult to come up with a question right now, as there is no way I can ask about the bunk event. So the question might be:- what other event plays on your mind a lot that you haven't mentioned before? The bunk event could be an example of one. That event would have been awful at the time, but now you enjoy recounting it. what might be another? 2021May 06 2021 12:02pm here are a few of your experiences which i think would have been hugely humiliating, which you might like to develop: i) being compared in front of girls; what was said and done. -ii) being made to measure with just him present; comparing 8.75 to 3. -iii) seeing and feeling his expansive chest hair before he shave it off. How expansive was it? 2021May 06 2021 12:31pm You seem interested in the bunk bed incident, so I can elaborate on that. When it happened it was one of the worst experiences I had had so far, at the time he'd only lost his virginity recently, so most of the really bad humiliations were yet to come. The family friend's daughter was clearly attracted to him almost immediately, we met her and her family at a beach, and she couldn't stop staring at his abs and his bulge. He invited her to feel his muscles, and to compare the feel of my biceps to his, and it was obvious that she was swooning. It was easy for him to seduce her, he barely had to do anything. They were already fondling each other in the car on the way back from the beach, while I was sitting next to them. That night she sheepishly asked if his bunk was uncomfortable and if he'd rather sleep in her bed, as there was plenty of room, but my brother said he'd rather she slept on the top bunk with him. Before long I could hear the sounds of kissing, then light moaning from her as I assume he was fingering her. They both just acted like I wasn't even there, they knew I was awake but they just didn't care. Then the moaning stopped briefly, I heard some movement above me, then the moaning resumed at a much higher volume, and the bed began to shake violently. Before long the whole bunk bed was rocking back and forth at a high speed, and the girl was moaning very loudly. I was slightly worried that the top bunk would just collapse onto me. I couldn't help but get an erection listening to the sounds she was making, and I reluctantly masturbated and had 3 dry orgasms, while my then 9yo brother was having sex directly above me and having multiple very wet orgasms, and giving several to the girl as well. Back then the whole experience was very unpleasant, but now it's one of my favorite memories. I'd love for it to happen again, being on the bottom bunk while my brother has sex above me sounds very exciting. I just realized as I was typing this that I have a school assignment due in a couple of hours, so I'll write the rest of this comment either later today or tomorrow. In the mean time please tell me what else you want to hear about, in addition to the things you already requested. And if you have had any other experiences as a result of being a late developer I'd like to hear about them. sub_broMay 06 2021 6:52pm hi sub. In every sentence thare is a longer story. Gosh and gee! How terrible for you at the time. How humiliating for you, being 14 and him only 9, but very much a 14 yr old. What happened in the morning when she descended from the bunk. I suspect your brother humiliated you in front of her. ###- you said that bad humiliations were yet to come. ####- and apart from losing the wrestle with the tomboyish 13 yr old, what happened there? 2021May 07 2021 12:40am i have never had any of your type of experiences. Apart from the 13 and 14 year old billets, all the others were uneventful. I was too timid to initiate anything and did my best to hide myself when I got changed for bed. The oldest boy was my age at 16, but he was like a man, with chest hair and beard. He was out of my league but if he had initiated something, i probably would have responded. He didn't ask my age but probably suspected i was 11 or 12 and therefore left the little kid alone. I couldn't keep my eyes off his chest though. With the 16 year old who was later than myself, I was in the BIG brother role. We just sat and chatted about being slow bloomers and how we hated it. We hugged at the end and he was embarrassed that our dickies touched. i just don't have this array of experiences that you have had and continue to have. 2021May 07 2021 12:51am Yeah, the incident with the bunk beds made me feel very inadequate at the time, particularly as it came so close on the heels of watching him lose his virginity to the girl I'd been crushing on for years. I felt like I was at the age (15) where it should have been me having those kind of experiences, but instead my little brother was beating me to it, and he was only 9! To make it worse, it was happening right in front of me, or in this case right above me. As I said, now I really enjoy remembering it. They had sex practically all night, after I finished masturbating I tried to go to sleep, but the noise and motion made it difficult. I almost drifted off to sleep a few times, but was always woken up by a particularly violent jolt of the bed, or a particularly loud moan. The next morning the girl's mom came into the room to wake us up, and her daughter had to hide under the blankets and behind my brother so she wouldn't be seen, her mom assumed she wasn't in her bed because she had gone to the bathroom. As she was climbing down the ladder from the top bunk I got a very good look at her naked body, she was extremely well developed for a 14yo, and I remember being stuck by another pang of jealousy, one that was only amplified when my brother climbed down after her, with his flaccid dick hanging down between his legs surrounded by a thick bush of pubic hair, and some armpit hair was visible as well. He did humiliate me in front of her, when he noticed I was there he called her over and pulled the blanket off me, revealing my erect dick, about half the size of his flaccid one, at about 2.4 vs 4.7 inches. I was only a few months away from my first pubic hair, but at this point I was still completely bare. They both laughed at me, and the girl asked if one of us was adopted since it was hard to believe we were brothers, then they went off to the shower together. They mostly just ignored me and acted like I didn't exist for the rest of the stay, doing sexual things right in front of me. It hurt even more because I had spent a lot of time with this girl when we were kids, as our parents were friends. sub_broMay 07 2021 11:55am For your other suggestions: i)_____ being compared in front of girls. Well my brother was already significantly stronger than me when he was 8 and I was 14, and when he was 9 the difference was even bigger. He often pinned me and generally beat me up when we were alone, though he never seriously hurt me, and he made me follow his orders with the threat of beating me up some more. By the time he was 9 I had stopped trying to resist and I basically did whatever he said. So when he had some of his girlfriends over he usually called me and told me to show them my body compared to his, and I had to do it. One of the first times he gave this order I tried to say no, but he bent me over his lap and actually spanked me right in front of two of his girlfriends, and the pain and humiliation of that made me very reluctant to refuse again. Usually he either made me stand side by side with him so the girls could see the difference in our dicks, muscles, and hair, or he stood in front of me with his dick pointing out in front of him and slightly upward, so it touched my dick. His dick would have looked huge on an adult, on his body it looked even bigger, and when compared to mine it looked gigantic, so the girls usually reacted with awe. He would invite them to touch both of us; to touch my smooth crotch and armpits compared to his body hair, to run their hands over my skinny abdomen and ribs and then over his 6 and later 8-pack abs, to feel his flexed biceps compared to my arms, and to grab my dick and his in each of their hands. One of the incidents I most vividly remember is one I've mentioned before, when one of his girlfriends put her arm alongside my brother's dick and exclaimed that it had about the same thickness as her wrist, then put her finger alongside mine and saying they had the same thickness. Even worse, sometimes the girl would say "aww!" and call it cute, I remember one saying it looked like her baby brother's. Lots of girls also asked if one of us was adopted or if we were really only half-siblings, One time a girl was handling my dick and pointing out how easily it fit between her thumb and forefinger, whereas her whole hand couldn't fully encircle my brother's, when her hand actually gave me a dry orgasm. They both noticed, and my brother laughed while his girlfriend seemed mildly grossed out. If the girl didn't know me already my brother sometimes asked them to guess how old I was, and I remember when I was 16 one girl saying that other than my genitals I looked 14, but my genitals looked like a 10yo, so she concluded that I was probably a tall 11yo. sub_broMay 07 2021 12:04pm ii)_____ measuring alone. So starting when he was 8 and I was 14, after his first BJ from our cousin, he measured us both at least once a month. The first of every month was "measuring day", and it also included other comparisons of our development. He was very precise with his measurements, and he never tried to exaggerate his own size or undercount mine. There was always a perceptible increase in his size, usually about 0.1 inches every month, sometimes a little less. Mine didn't grow at anywhere near the same rate, it took about 3 months for me to gain another 0.1 inches. From the very first time we measured he was about 3 times my size, at first it was 2 vs 6.25, and that remains the difference to this day, with me at 3 inches and him at about 9 (I'm pretty sure he's grown at least another 0.25 inches since the last time we measured). Even flaccid he's twice my erect size. He could put my erection on top of his while we were standing facing each other, and mine barely extended past the head of his. The measuring days were a good opportunity for him to mock me, and I just had to suffer through it. iii) hair. I was waiting for my first pubes to grow until I was 15, always trying to urge my body to grow them as soon as possible. It was embarrassing seeing my brother with not only a full bush of pubes, but also armpit hair while I had no hair below the eyebrows. He even started to grow facial and chest hair a bit before my first pubic hair. He had a fairly large batch of chest hair before he started shaving it, and when he was 9 he was very proud of it, often making me feel it with my hands. Even before he started growing it he took any excuse to walk around shirtless in public to show off his muscles, and after his chest hair started coming in he did it even more. He looked older than he was, but still not old enough to have chest hair, so he looked quite strange and got lots of stares. iiii) losing to the 13yo girl. When the girl in question was taller or heavier than me, or if he had reason to believe she'd be stronger, he often made me compare my strength to hers after he compared himself to me in front of her. I always lost those contests, though that's because he didn't make me arm wrestle them unless he knew she was probably going to win. The incident I mentioned happened when I was 16, I was only a little shorter than I am now, about 5'3". My brother was 10 and his girlfriend was 13, probably the youngest of his girlfriends, though she was also one of the most confident and assertive. She was very tall for her age, maybe as tall as 5'7", and she was very into sports and fitness, with a 6-pack of her own and impressive biceps. I lost the arm wrestling match very easily, then my brother said it would be fun if she wrestled me. We were both naked at the time, and it took her maybe 30 seconds to pin me, while my brother and another of his girlfriends watched and laughed. After that she lifted me up and slung me over her shoulder. This girl could have beat a lot of guys my age, so I tried not to be too embarrassed, but it was impossible not to be. Most times after that when she came over she wrestled me as well. Please give some other suggestions for things I should explain or elaborate on. sub_broMay 07 2021 12:14pm Hi sub. wow, three posts and all of them long. i will need to read all of them again. i could share one of your earlier comments and say that you have had experiences i could only dream of having. How embarrassing for you. I hope the sharing of these has helped you somewhat and if so, HOW? here's a suggestion:- ##### how did he reaction when you started to ejaculate...was he present; how did he know; what was his reaction to your new ear? i will re-read. 2021May 07 2021 1:11pm Hi again. i have been picturing the scenes. Bunk:- see a developed 14 yr old girl, who your brother had many hours joined at the hip with. You have said several times that he 'mocked you.' what did he usually say? How could they shower together without parents being aware? ####### - measuring alone would have been embarrassing enough, with your length only just past his head. Feeling and playing with his chest hair would have been a huge turn-on. Your description of him standing in front of you with tips touching, would have been made it difficult to endure, but you had to out of fear of consequences i guess. To have girls explore your smoothness and compare him to you, to see your inadequacies...oh gosh. ## - i am surprised the 13 yr old didn't have any additional fun with you as she came over often. Did any of his girl give you any physical attention? ## -in those pre-pubic days, how did you cope with seeing so many boobs particularly of girls younger than you? ##-i take it you are still 'home alone'? ## - spelling mistake in my last post:- ear = era. 2021May 07 2021 1:45pm Hi again. I answered you in haste two posts up, so let me rephrase it and call it YOUR BIG DAY. I am sure you will have great memories of the day you sprouted your first pubes and soon after, your first ejaculation. What were the events of that/those days? How did you break the news to him? His reaction/his comments/ your feelings about self/ and anything else that made that moment positive or negative 2021May 07 2021 5:49pm Thanks for all the questions! Unfortunately I don't have time to answer them right now, but they'll all get an answer by tomorrow at the latest. Sharing my experiences is helping a lot. Like I said, they were terrible at the time, but since I've become an enthusiastic partner of my brother's they have all become positive memories, and I enjoy thinking about them. My brother's prowess, especially compared to me, is exciting to me now. I haven't seen my brother or his dick in over a week now, and it's hard for me to deal with that, I'm craving it pretty badly and I can't get him out of my head. All I have to rely on are memory and imagination to satisfy myself. The fact that I'm busy with school stuff helps take my mind off him a bit, but it's not enough. Writing them down, and especially talking about them to other people make me feel like I'm re-living those memories, which is exactly what I want, and it helps to relieve my frustration. Doing this is the next best thing to sucking his dick. If other people enjoy reading them then I like that as well. I'll respond to the rest tomorrow, feel free to add any other questions or requests as well. sub_broMay 07 2021 8:28pm hi. you might like to read a story in likelike pollcommentary 4427 on 'babysitting older brothers.' One story down the list my a guy called 'baby mp' starts of with I LOVE MY MOTHER. It is about him at 13 being babysat with a 13 yr old girl. Looking forward to hearing about your BIG DAY. 2021May 07 2021 8:36pm OK, I'll answer your other questions first, and I'll tell you about my "big day"(s) later. Bunk ----- Yeah, the girl in the bunk bed incident was incredibly well developed, definitely the most attractive body I'd ever seen up to that point, and that made it even worse at the time and even better to think about now. When they showered together it was only her mom in the house, and the girl said she was using the other shower and wouldn't be finished for an hour. At the time my brother was a bit less careful than he is now. Comparisons ----- measuring and seeing my dick touching his was very embarrassing at the time, mine would look small compared to an average dick so compared to his it looks minuscule. My brother's is 3 times longer and about 2.5 times thicker, but if you work out the total volume of both of us the difference is even bigger. I just did the math, and if you calculate it as if they're both cylinders (which is close enough) then his has a volume that's over 20 times mine. These days I love comparing my dick to his, nothing turns me on more than when I stand in front of him and rest my dick on top of his, seeing mine barely extent past his glans and seeing the difference in diameter. The sides of his dick extend way past mine in both directions. His dick is over 2 inches in diameter, so if I stand at a right angle to him and put my dick across his, like a + shape, only one third of it extends past his. When I'm flaccid I can rest my entire dick across his, it's as wide as mine is long, though obviously I can never stay flaccid in that situation, and when we do that sort of thing I can never resist the urge to just fall to my knees and start sucking him. Feeling his chest hair would be a huge turn on now and I hope he decides to grow it out again some time, but back then I wasn't attracted to my brother yet. Yeah, especially before I got my first pubes, having girls running their hands over the smooth parts of my body and comparing them to my 6 years younger brother's development was particularly bad. It was bad enough just knowing it myself, but having other people and especially girls see it for themselves made it worse, I got quite a few comments that I reminded them of their little brothers in elementary school or kindergarten. Even after I started to grow pubes it wasn't much better, my pubic hair was very sparse and if anything it made the difference seem even bigger, and I still didn't have any other body hair. Tomboy----- Oh she did have more fun with me, and continues to do so. After that she did similar things with me almost every time she came over. She especially likes lifting me and carrying me around. I have to admit that a part of me did enjoy wrestling with her, she was always naked and I usually was as well, and it was the closest bodily contact I have ever had with a girl. That's the most physical attention any of his girlfriends have given me, there was one time when one of them pretended she was going to give me some, but that turned out to be a prank organized by my brother. There was one time before my brother started f*cking me when the tomboy girl wrestled me and held me in a headlock to her chest while my brother was f*cking her. Pre-pubic ------ Well for a long time before I had pubes, I still had a sex drive. Starting from when I was about 13 I was attracted to girls and I masturbated fairly often, even though my genitals looked almost prepubescent. So when it became common to see naked girls walking around my house when my dad wasn't home, I did get turned on a lot. That was degrading in its own way, getting aroused at the sight of girls my brother was f*cking, and having no option but to masturbate to the sight or memory of them while knowing my brother was getting to actually f*ck them. I didn't want them to see me masturbating to them, so I sometimes had to spy on them. After my brother started making me go naked most of the time as well, my arousal was usually visible, and he and his girlfriends would often tease me by doing things designed to turn me on even more. I'll tell you about my first pubic hair and my first ejaculation later today, please tell me what else you'd like to know and what else I should elaborate on. sub_broMay 08 2021 10:21am Hi again. Wow again. just wanted to acknowledge your above post. I am going to be busy for the next 3 hours and away from the computer. the details of the comparisons are what i was thinking; two days ago, i was thinking of volume too. more later. 2021May 08 2021 11:27am A quick comment before i go: #-1:- did Tomboy let you touch her and vice versa? kiss you/ give you a blow job, etc. ## what were some of the things they did that were designed to turn you on 2021May 08 2021 11:38am I got to touch the girl as I was wrestling her, but nothing apart from that. She definitely didn't kiss me or give me a BJ, she wouldn't want to do that any my brother wouldn't have allowed it. His girlfriends would do things like push their boobs together or spread their vagina out or give me a little strip-tease, or if there were multiple girls present sometimes they made out with each other in front of me. They would see my dick harden up, and laugh about it. So my brother was present for the discovery of my first pubic hair, and my first ejaculation. The pubic hair came first, when I was 15, and it was when he had me strip in front of a couple of his girlfriends. One of them noticed two tiny hairs growing on my crotch, and pointed it out to my brother. He was happy about it, he almost seemed proud of me even. I remember him saying something along the lines of "you're becoming a man! Well, I wouldn't go that far..." He even let me touch one of his girlfriend's boobs for a few seconds as a "reward", it was the first time I'd ever done that and it was pretty exciting to me, I had a dry orgasm without even touching my dick. I knew it was still pretty pathetic to not grow any pubic hair until 15 (though now I know it's fine to be a late developer) but I was still quite happy that day. The first time I ejaculated it was just him and me, I was 16 and he was 10, and it was during one of the sessions where my brother made me masturbate in front of him while he did the same. He always waited until I had my dry orgasm before he came, but this time I actually ejaculated a few drops of semen, it was clear enough that that's what it was from the way it spurted out. I was as surprised as my brother. The drops landed on the glass coffee table that was between us, and my brother scraped it off and into a small empty glass so he could look at it. He congratulated me on my milestone, then handed me the glass and told me to keep it as a souvenir, eventually I put the cum into a small sealed test tube, and it's still hidden in my room now. He came on me after this as he always did, and it was a huge load that covered my chest and drizzled down my torso and made my couple of drops seem like even less, but I was still in a decent mood, I had been worried that I'd never be able to produce semen. He dampened my mood after that by saying something like "you're old enough for me to f*ck now!", it was disconcerting even though it was just a joke. I didn't know at the time what it was foreshadowing. I'm going to be very busy tomorrow as I have a couple of deadlines, so I might not be able to come to this site, but please ask any questions you want, and I'll get to them as soon as I can, tomorrow or the day after at the latest. sub_broMay 08 2021 7:35pm I forgot to mention something else, about how my brother compares me to his girlfriends and sometimes makes me compete against them, like in arm wrestling. Well after I asked him to f*ck me, another competition was added. Me and one of his girlfriends take turns giving him a BJ, and whoever gets him to cum first wins, usually the reward is that the winner gets to be f*cked first, although getting to suck that c*ck of his is its own reward. Whoever gives him the BJ first has the advantage, as he's slightly less sensitive in the second round, but I almost always win even when I go second, even if he's just cum less than a minute before I start. I've become really, really good at it, even better than the girls who have had 2 or 3 years of practice. When I'm not trying to make him cum fast I can take my time and make it even better for both of us, he prefers my BJs to to any of his girlfriend's, and I'm very proud of my skill. I really wish I could give him one right now, I'm supposed to be doing my school assignments but I'm finding it hard to concentrate. Did you give a BJ to that billet when you were 13? You got any more questions? sub_broMay 09 2021 9:09am Hi. The answer to your question is a 'yes' and i didn't know what i was doing. It was my one and only experience of giving a BJ. ## - his comment about you being old enough to be F-ed now' and its foreshadowing. Stories here i guess, from the first time to... DO YOUR HOMEWORK! 2021May 09 2021 1:59pm I'll definitely write about that when I have time, right now I'm going to take your advice and do my homework. Can you tell a bit more about your experiences? 8.2 inches on the 13yo billet isn't far from my brother's size, what was it like to such it? How did the 14yo billet go about "educating you on the facts of life"? You said you spend about an hour "messing around" with him on two nights, what happened there? Were there any other incidents with other younger boys (who weren't billets) relating to you being a late developer? sub_broMay 09 2021 4:37pm Hope you were successful in applying yourself to your HW. Unfortunately my experiences pale into insignificance when compared to your. They are restricted to just these two events. #- the 13 year old was more of a leader than the more timid 14 year old. i was so tight that he probably only inserted an inch or two and i wasn't sufficient aware to know what he had done. I thought that 'that was that' when some of his dick entered me. What was felt was more pain than pleasure. I was not aware that so much more could have been experienced. This realization only came from reading about the experiences of others on other Likelike posts. Even my sucking was very amateurish; he just smiled at me and i now suspect that he could see my innocence so hence treated me like a innocent child. Probably gave him a huge ego boost that he was so much more advanced even though we were only months apart in age. He sat me on his lap with our two dicks between us and like your description, my total length was about the size of his glans. After a period of comparison and just holding each other's dicks, we hugged each other and i enjoyed his bigger frame. He carried me and i felt so light in his arms. At one point he settled me down on his erection, with my legs on either side. It almost seemed it took most of my weight as he held me under the armpits and bounced me up and down. I hugged him around the neck and he also carried me in different positions. The most exposed i felt was when he lay me on my back across his lap in such a way that my head was drooping down on one side while my legs were drooping on the other. With his hands on my neck, my arms were also trapped which means i couldn't cover my genitals which we erect at 2.5-3 inches. He was looking down at them with a smile, probably feasting on its smaller size compared to his. All this had to cease when my mother's car return. This was my first sexual experience...and a third of my total experiences. (more later) 2021May 09 2021 8:14pm I got an extension on my deadline and I'm still pretty busy, but I have time to tell you about the first sexual act I performed on my brother. It was a little under a year ago. Where I live lockdown restrictions were always very lax, and for the last few months they've been basically non-existent, but there was about a month last year where people weren't allowed to visit each other's houses, and schools were also closed. This meant that for the first time in almost two years my brother had very few opportunities to have sex with any girls. Our dad still had to physically go to work, so he and I were spending all day in the house, alone. My brother was very frustrated from his lack of sex, and he spent basically all day masturbating, I'd guess at least 10 times a day. I had gotten used to walking through the living room while he was sitting on the couch naked, watching porn on the big TV and masturbating. The couch and the floor were constantly covered in his semen, and he made me clean it up before our dad got home. Anyway, his frustration kept growing, until one day when I walked into the living room to see him watching a video of a woman sucking a c*ck almost as big as his, while he masturbated by stroking both of his hands up and down the full length of his dick. I saw him turn his head around to look at me, then back at the TV, then back at me again, and I could see that an idea had formed in his mind. I started to leave the room, but he told me to stop, and then to come over to him. I hesitated, having a notion of what might be coming. I just stood still for a few seconds, trying to figure out what I should do, when my brother flexed his bicep and repeated his order. I had already been conditioned to obey him, and upon seeing his muscles all thoughts I was entertaining of defying him left me, and I walked over to him. My brother told me to kneel down in front of him, while he remained sitting on the couch. His dick was pointing upwards, right in front of my face, and I knew what was coming. He said something like "I don't know why I didn't think of this before. My girlfriends can't come over, so from now on you can be my girlfriend. Suck it". Being this close to his muscular body and with the intimidation of having his huge dick resting on my face, I had no choice but to obey, and I opened my mouth wide and put it over his dick's head. At the time I couldn't open my mouth that wide and I couldn't deep-throat either, so I couldn't even fit all of his glans in my mouth, but I filled it up as much as I could and got to sucking. It was very warm, and somehow simultaneously rock-hard and tender feeling. My brother gave me some instructions along the way, like what to do with my tongue, and he remarked that I was a natural. After a minute or two he put his hand on the back of my head and pushed it down, holding it in place as he ejaculated. He had only masturbated 2 or 3 times that day and his hyperspermia was very apparent, so there was a gigantic amount of semen, even more than usual. It completely filled my mouth, making my cheeks puff up like balloons and spurted out my nose, coating every surface of my mouth and sloshing down my throat before I even swallowed. He held my head in place as rope after rope of the stuff spurted out of him, I could feel it flowing down my throat and drizzling out my nose, and I couldn't even breathe. He pulled his dick out of my mouth and emptied the last couple of ropes onto my face, then told me to swallow what was left in my mouth. He told me again that I was unexpectedly good at it, and that I would be doing it every day from now on. Then he told me to clean myself up and clean the couch and the carpet, before getting up to go do some weight lifting. It wasn't actually as bad as I had thought it was going to be, though it was very humiliating. His cum didn't taste that bad at the time, maybe because I was so used to the smell of it, and now it's my favorite taste in the world. I only noticed after my brother left the room that I had an erection, I told myself it didn't mean anything though I did masturbate myself right there. I know now that a part of me was into it even then, though my conscious mind still disliked it. I've been fantasizing about that day a lot recently and I wish I could re-live it, I really miss the feel of my brother's dick in my mouth and the taste of his cum. sub_broMay 10 2021 11:41am I'm looking forward hearing more about your experiences. Did the 13yo billet cum in your mouth, or in your ass, or both? What about what I asked about the 14yo billet later? And I'm guessing there were some embarrassing non-sexual incidents arising from your late development, from being the only boy in your grade who hadn't started puberty yet, or from being less developed than younger relatives, do any experiences like that come to mind? And please ask me more questions and request more elaboration, I'll try to get to them as soon as I have time. sub_broMay 10 2021 11:47am Oh gosh. you are giving me a good idea of what a hyperspermia boy is capable of. I had never even heard the term prior to you using it. Coming out of your nose! Man!!! i can see why you find this unforgettable and why you want more. ##- 13 yr old only got his dick head in as i was too tight and he was too big. That experience didn't last all that long for him my biology and his efforts to impregate me further. Yes, she did shoot his load, then he pulled out. When he got me to suck him in the manner your brother did to you, i could barely fit his glan into my mouth so i was really doing a clean up. I was fascinated with his extensive bush and kept playing with the hair. It was dark brown, thick and curly and had a thickness more than normal hair. As this was my first touch of public hair, apart from seeing it on other boys in shower rooms, i had no idea that it was different to hair on one's head, particularly when mine head har is quite fine/thin. Mother came home before anything else could develop. 2021May 10 2021 1:46pm ###- the 14 yr old. As mentioned earlier, i was 16 and he was a tall 14. He was more timid than the 13 yr old, and was basically a 'nice guy', the type of guy that no one would behave appropriately in class. His timidity was obvious in his embarrassment and blushing when my mother commented about his facial hair. Now you and I know that extensive facial hair does not appear overnight and his daily growth is a sign that he started this several years ago. One just has to do the math and conclude he had his first shave at around 12. And here i was at 16. I left the dinner table to 'do my HW' leaving him and my mother chatting about his interests. On two occasions i made some excuse to return to the scene, once to look for my red pen, another to check the TV program. He was not the type that would initiate anything (unlike the 13 yr old) He just sat next to me and quietly said: - 'your mother wants me to talk to you about....' That's when he locked the bedroom door, then initiated with the comment that 'your mother wants me to talk to you about the birds and the bees.' I wasn't hairless at 16' so it was more advanced than with the 13 yr old. But this 14 yr old facial growth was striking. He told me i could touch his face and seemed embarrassed when I did so. I asked him the basic questions like, when did all this start and i was right about the age (12). Apparently his father and uncles are hairy so it's a family genes issue. Because it took some time to shave, he often shaved a night and said he had to do this now at 10.30pm. When we were both in the bathroom, he asked if I wanted 'to try' so I eagerly did. He showed me how to spread the cream and to be careful with the razor. he sat on a stool and i was between his legs. That is when he tented in his shorts and got embarrassed when he noticed that I noticed. 'I'm pretty hairy down there too, wanna see?' I nodded and he took them off. Boy was he hairy! I estimate now that his bush stood up at least 3 inches in places. I lost interest in his facial hair and was mesmerized by the extensive bush that would have been 8 inches across and connected with his thigh hair. In contrast, I had a small patch above my dick. His erect was not as big as the 13 yr old and i measured later at 7 inches. More later 2021May 10 2021 2:11pm Yeah, hyperspermia is pretty common for boys like my brother with excessive hormones, and he has a particularly extreme case of it. His balls are just working non-stop producing the stuff, and he constantly has to ejaculate it to make room for more. His cum shoots out with such force, I can feel it hitting the back of my throat really hard, and I've seen bursts of it hit the ceiling when he masturbates. His semen is totally white, unlike mine it's not transparent or watery at all, and it's so thick, I almost have to chew it before I can swallow. It tastes savory and salty and a little bit sweet all at the same time, the first time I tasted I was neutral toward it, but now I find it to be the most delicious thing ever, and I always make sure to lick up every drop I spill. I'm almost drooling just thinking about it, I've been craving giving him a BJ even more than his f*cking recently. His f*cking feels amazing, but to actually see and touch and taste his dick and his cum is something else, especially because of the contrast from handing my own dick and ejaculations. I'll suggest to my brother that maybe he could try growing out his chest and facial hair, though he seems to prefer it shaved for whatever reason. Sometimes he f*cks me while sitting in a chair, with me on his lap facing him and his c*ck pointing upward and penetrating me, and the idea of being able to run my hands through his chest hair and stroke his beard while we're doing that sounds exciting, though running my hands over his abs and pecs as we're doing it is pretty good by itself. I'm looking forward to reading the rest of what happened with the 14yo, and about experiences you've had as a result of developing late. Was his talk about "the birds and the bees" limited to shaving, or did it go into other things? I'd guess a boy like that would probably have sexual experience with girls, did he explain that to you? What happened after he showed you his pubic hair and his dick? And please ask me more questions and make more requests. sub_broMay 10 2021 6:43pm Hi. I thought you might be asleep. Wow again. i was going to suggest that you ask him to grow his chest hair; other guys his age would want to show it off, so it seems strange that he doesnt. The scene you described was exactly the one i was picturing, with him sitting in a chair and you sitting facing him. As this has already happened, can you describe it more specifically. I would imagine you can feel his entire 9 inches at your mid-chest level. What does he say when he is looking down on your small one between you and him as he bounces you on his lap? oh gosh. Are you close to passing out? How long does he keep himself in you? Does he ever stand up while he is 'in you?' and walk around the house? 2021May 10 2021 9:03pm just re-read your post. you might like to develop the following:- i) seeing, touching,tasting..is SOMETHING ELSE ! and (ii) his f*ing is really amazing." 2021May 10 2021 9:09pm Thanks for the questions! My brother used to like to show off his body hair, but now everyone he knows is aware of how amazing he is, so it's not necessary for him to show off. He looks impressive enough without it when topless, his muscular physique gets a lot of stares. That position is just one of many that we use, though it is one of my favorites, because it gives me a good view of him and of my own body. It works best when he's sitting on a high chair without arm rests, I sit on his c*ck with my legs either dangling to the sides or wrapped around his abdomen, when I cum they squeeze him pretty hard. Usually he puts each of his hands under each of my ass cheeks and uses them to repeatedly lift me up and down, so his c*ck slides up and down my insides. I'm taller than him so it's a bit difficult for him to lift me by my armpits, but he's done that as well. Other times I do the moving, sometimes by putting my hands on the side of the chair and pushing myself up so I slide up the length of his c*ck, then allowing myself to fall back down so it slams back into me. Sometimes I do it by wrapping my arms around his neck and pulling myself up, I prefer that method as it allows for a more smooth and consistent rhythm, plus I get to touch him more and our torsos make contact as I'm bouncing. Yeah, when he's balls-deep inside me his c*ck is up past my belly button, I can see it outlined very clearly in the bulge in my abdomen. I love looking down at my body as it's f*cking me, my abdomen is so skinny that I can clearly make out the cylindrical shape of his c*ck in the bulge, and see it sliding up and down. It goes right up into my sigmoid colon, straightening it out. Before he started f*cking me I wouldn't have guessed it would be possible for anything to go that deep, but actually anyone could take someone his size with enough practice and lubrication, even a short person like me, the passages are very elastic and can stretch and change shape when they need to. We usually don't need lube anymore, there's enough natural lubrication with the sweat I produce and his amazing amount of pre-cum, another effect of hyperspermia. I usually cum for the first time as soon as he penetrates me, and then I cum 2 or 3 more times as it goes on, often more. My dick is obviously always erect, and sometimes when our bodies are very close it rubs against his abs as I bounce on his c*ck, and that always makes me cum even more. My brother is always pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, he never makes any noise and he usually has a neutral expression or a casual smile on his face, even as he's cumming. It turns me on even more when I'm completely engulfed in pleasure, my mind is blank and I can't think about anything else, and I see him looking at his phone or texting someone while he's f*cking me. Sometimes he teases me, last time we did it he looked at my dick as I was having my 4th orgasm and spitting a bit of cum onto his abs and said "looks like little buddy's enjoying himself." Another time he commented that my ass was really a pussy and my dick was really a clitoris, and hearing that drove me crazy (in a good way). One of the most memorable times was when he was using his arms to lift me and bounce me up and down, and then just as I was about to cum he stopped, and held me up in the air so high that only the tip of his dick was inside me. He made me beg him very profusely, I don't remember exactly what I said but it was probably very desperate, and then he finally dropped me and pushed me all the way down his c*ck by my hips, slamming it balls-deep into me in one thrust, and giving my one of the biggest orgasms I've ever had. I did pass out then for a little bit, and there have been a couple of other times when I've briefly fallen unconscious or into a state of semi-consciousness from the pleasure. He often keeps himself in me for quite a long time, half an hour or more, and he cums in me several times. He's one of those guys with no refractory period, meaning that he can cum and then keep f*cking without a break, and the cum again without losing his erection. His dick just softens up a tiny bit, then becomes fully hard again a few seconds later. Yes, he can easily stand up as he's penetrating me, I have my legs wrapped around his abdomen and he's supporting me with one or both of his arms, and using them to bounce me along his c*ck. He can walk around the house in that state, and sometimes he pins me against a wall while I'm clinging to him, this allows him to do all the moving with his hips. sub_broMay 11 2021 7:33am Thanks for giving me a chance to describe this, I really enjoyed doing it. Please ask me some more questions, about anything to do with my brother, I need to talk about him more, it's the only thing keeping me sane while he's been away. And are you going to continue writing about your experiences with the 14yo? And what about other (not necessarily sexual) things that happened because of your late development? Like you mentioned seeing pubic hair on the boys in showers, what was it like being the only boy that age without it, and were there times when you were faced with much younger boys who were in a later state of development than you? sub_broMay 11 2021 7:39am Triple wow to your lengthy description. it is what I imagined and more. My SOLITARY experience was this position, but as mentioned, i experienced no pleasure, only pain and only his glan entered. So, it was nothing like any of your experiences. I have a better idea as to why you are craving and want him home! (This was a quick read; more not so exciting reports on the 14 yr old coming). 2021May 11 2021 9:28am my limited experiences pale into insignificance when compared to yours. With the 14 yr old, after experiencing shaving him and examining his 3 inch thick bush, and holding his 7 inches, we went to our own bed and slept. He was a timid guy and so was I. Looking back on it, I think he respected my older age and therefore took a secondary position; whereas i respect his maturity and dared not initiate anything. He was as embarrassed in being physical as I was. on the next day(Saturday) he went off with his team for the sporting event and did not return till late. He was pretty tired; so after a brief chat with my mother, he wanted to have his shower and go to bed. He showered and then i entered the room. We both said goodnight and locked the door. He was slow to suggest that I shave him again but he noticed me staring at his face. Very meekly he asked if i wanted to do it again, and I nodded. Half way through the process, he dropped his shorts and i followed suit. He was too timid to initiate anything beyond that, and this is where I felt that he respected my age. I felt his expansive hair and put his hand on my smaller appendage. He grinned and it was obvious he was embarrassed. He didn't force me to give him a BJ and I was too scared to initiate one. Eventually we were in our own beds and I had a sleepless night replacing it all in my head. He left the next morning when his team bus picked him up. 2021May 11 2021 1:20pm It sounds like you regret not trying to initiate anything. I'm not really attracted to males other than my brother, but since I became extremely attracted to him it's spilled over into interest in the general idea of younger boys who are far superior in development, masculinity, and penis size to an older boy. If you share that then it's a shame that opportunity passed, there's nothing like giving a BJ to a really big dick. What about the other thing I asked, about general (non-sexual) experiences to do with being a late developer and being behind guys your own age and younger? And please ask me more questions about my brother, and request things for me to elaborate on. sub_broMay 11 2021 2:30pm Shortly after the 14 yr old experience, we moved house owing to my mother's job. Upon arrival at our new city, I attending a Boarding school until my mother decided where she wanted to buy a house. Durin that Term, Yr 10 and Yr 9 boys shared the same locker room. For the first time i saw an array of sizes and discovered that there were a handful who were behind me. But there was a really good looking blond Yr 9'er who was at least 5ft 9 who had an 8 inchers and who would swish it around in his cubicle for those of us who could view him from the opposite cubicles. There were no curtain, just side walls. I saw most boys who were like my 14 yr old. That's it really. Pretty meagre experiences. And yes, i did miss an opportunity. Can you develop what it was like to be lifted by one hand and walked around the room. What was that like, felt, were you the vocal type? 2021May 11 2021 4:19pm Sure! So he has his c*ck inside me, and I have my legs wrapped around his abdomen and my arms around his neck. When he wants to f*ck me standing up, he puts one or both of his hands on my ass cheeks, and uses them to lift me up and then drag me down the length of his c*ck, repeatedly and usually at a high speed. He can walk around while doing this no problem, and when he does it one-handed he can use his other hand for other stuff. To get an idea of what that looks like, imagine my brother casually walking up to the refrigerator, taking out some milk and drinking a few gulps straight from the carton, while at the same time he's using his other hand to rapidly lift me up and down along his dick, while I'm screaming and moaning. He can also walk around while inside me without using either of his hands, just his c*ck and my legs around his abdomen are enough to support me, and my arms around his neck are just for balance. Sometimes he walks around the house while I'm clinging to him with his dick in my ass and just does regular stuff, like get a snack from the kitchen or brush his teeth, or even do dumbbell curls. I can still do some moving in this position, I can push down on his shoulders to move me up the length of his c*ck a bit before lowering myself back down on to it. The problems with this are that I can only move myself a few inches up the length of his dick, it's pretty hard work for me to do for a long time, and it makes it hard for him to see where he's going. When I'm staying still he can just about see over my shoulder, but if I'm constantly moving up and down he can't. One time I was doing that as he was walking around the yard, and as I was pretty close to an orgasm he casually told me to stop moving. He didn't know I was close and this time he wasn't trying to tease me, he just wanted to see where he was going, but obviously I did what he said and hung on right on the edge for a few minutes before he told me I could resume. It's also nice to just stay still, to just cling to him with his c*ck as deep inside me as it can go in this position, rest my head on his shoulder, and just let him walk around while natural motion of his stride moves his dick around inside me, gently stimulating me and taking a few minutes to slowly build up the pleasure until I cum. It's probably the most relaxing and blissful way that he f*cks me, and if I could I would stay like that all day and never let his dick out of my ass. It feels great, both physically and psychologically, I feel somehow "full" in both senses, safe and secure, as close to my brother as it's possible to get, and completely under his power. I'm pretty loud if that's what you mean by the "vocal type", though everyone is loud when my brother's involved. He's the opposite, he never makes any noise during any kind of sex, and he can talk completely normally even while he's having an orgasm. When I don't have to worry about people hearing then I am very noisy, I moan and sometimes scream (in a good way) at the top of my lungs. I can be quiet when I need to, like if our dad is in the house. My brother hasn't masturbated in months, I'm always near him so when he gets horny there's always an orifice for him to use, my mouth and my ass are like fleshlights for him, and that works out great for me. When he wakes up at night and needs a quick f*ck he either texts me to wake me up and waits in his room for a few seconds for me to arrive, or he comes to my room and wakes me up himself. One of my favorite things in the world is when I wake up, thinking it's morning, only to see it's still dark and my brother is standing next to my bed with his c*ck already erect. When he f*cks me in those situations we have to be pretty quiet to avoid waking up our dad, and I can manage that with a bit of effort, but I need to stuff my mouth with something to stop involuntary sounds coming out. My favorite thing to stuff my mouth with is my brother's underwear, especially if it hasn't been washed yet and still has the smell and taste his cum and precum on it. sub_broMay 11 2021 7:25pm When you said "I saw most boys who were like my 14 yr old", do you mean that most of the boys in the locker room had his size and body hair? If other people could see in to the cubicle, did anyone ever comment on your penis size and lack of body hair compared to most of the others? And again, please ask me more questions and tell me what else you want to hear more about. sub_broMay 11 2021 7:31pm you last two posts with your brother are extremely 'hot' and yes, i could picture if vividly. the age difference of 16 to 10 (17 to 11) adds to the hottness! ##- I don't recall ever seeing body hair on the locker room guys; No..no one commented on my size, nor the size of others who were late. There was always a supervisor in the shower area and we were all on silence. If there was teasing outside the showers, i was not aware of it. NOt sure what else to ask at the moment. But thanks for your descriptions to date. 2021May 11 2021 8:18pm Thanks. I guess you can imagine how I feel having not seen, felt, or tasted my brother for so long, and writing these things is by far the best way for me to cope with his absence. It's way better than just remembering things, it almost makes me feel like I'm re-living them, and I need to do it more. I find it hard to write them without some guidance or prompting, so please think of more questions or requests for me. It can be questions about things my brother does to me, about his girlfriends, about how he demonstrated his superiority over me before we started f*cking, about what he was like before he became sexually active, anything. sub_broMay 12 2021 11:40am Hi again. Well you have given yourself a list of issues in the last sentence above. One question i did think about was this:- ##- after having him IN you for 1/2 hr - 1 hr, walking around the room, lifting you up and down, what about the aftermath?..ie when he stops, puts you down and it's over for that occasions. What is the feeling, the thinking and the physiological impact of the session ending? I have never had this experience. 2021May 12 2021 12:08pm @sub_bro have you ever measured how much cum your brother can make? AnonymousMay 12 2021 12:49pm About my 2 adopted Arab sons: http://www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/3876 AnonymousMay 12 2021 12:57pm By the time he decides to take his c*ck out of me from a standing or sitting position he usually does it by putting his hands under my armpits and lifting me up so it slides out of me, then he drops me on the ground. By that point he's already cum in me several times, without withdrawing, so there's always a load of cum that oozes out of me, which is why usually he either brings me outside and drops me on the grass, or he drops onto some newspaper I spread out prior to the start of the session. Sometimes I'm too tired to do anything and I just pass out on the floor, but most of the times it feels pretty unpleasant when he takes it out of me. After being so deep inside me for so long, constantly stimulating me, it feels like an integral part of my body, and when he withdraws I feel kind of empty inside, like there's something missing, and I instantly feel like I need it back inside me. Knowing that the f*cking is over (for a while) is even worse, there are times when I just can't handle it, and I beg him to keep going for just a little bit more. A few times I've crawled up to him, grabbed his ankles, looked up at him and just pleaded with him. Some of his girlfriends do the same thing, I saw it happen first when he was 9, and at the time I didn't understand it. Sometimes he takes pity on me and f*cks me for a while longer, sometimes he tells me he can't as he has girlfriends coming over or our dad will be home soon and I have to clean up. My desperation usually abates a bit after a few minutes, but the craving never fully goes away. I've never measured exactly how much cum he produces, but it's enough to completely soak my face and chest when he empties it all onto me. I can talk later about some of the topics I mentioned I guess, but it would really help if I had some more guided questions and requests to work from, it's hard to know where to start without them. sub_broMay 12 2021 2:17pm Wow again. I can imagine all this. OK, so:- # what did your brother demonstrate his superiority in the early days? ##- which of his girlfriends is most vivid for you? ### - one or two of your most humiliating experiences with his girlfriends that you haven't mentioned yet. ### - when is he due to come home? 2021May 12 2021 2:58pm Thanks for the questions! #_____ Well in the very early days he demonstrated his superiority without realizing he was doing it. Like I said before, I was sensitive about my penis size since I was very young, I had been teased about it by kids my age, and I vaguely understood that males thought of it as important and that having a small one was seen as shameful. It was crushing when I saw that my brother was bigger as a baby than I was at the time, when I was 6. I grew since then, but so did he, and he's been ahead of me his entire life. Since he was a toddler he would often walk around without pants on, neither of our parents minded, but I hated it. Every time I saw him it was another reminder of how small I was. He sometimes got random boners as a toddler (which is normal even for regular boys), and I tried my best not to look at them, but I'm pretty sure they were at least 3 inches, so larger than I am now. I Especially after the incident in the bathtub when I was 9, I made sure never to let him see me naked again, but I still was forced to see him pretty often. He didn't know the effect it was having on me, but watching him walk around at the age of 6 when I was 12 and seeing his dick swing around underneath him, and seeing how it was at least twice as big as mine even though I was twice his age made me feel so inferior. Eventually, some time before he turned 7 our dad told him he has to at least wear underwear around the house, I don't know if he picked up on how it was making me feel or maybe it was making my dad uncomfortable as well, but it meant I saw spared that sight for about a year. Things changed after the first time we armwrestled and measured, and the first time he got a BJ, when he was 8 and I was 14. Before that he treated me basically as an equal, he didn't know how much bigger he was, how much more advanced in puberty he was, or how much stronger he was than me. After he discovered all that he was so much better than me in all three aspects, he lost all respect for me, and he started to demonstrate his superiority over me every day. This came in the form of beating me in armwrestling, generally overpowering me, and making me follow his orders around the house. He once again was always naked or at least bottomless when our dad wasn't home, and he often ordered that I do the same. I've talked about the constant measuring and comparisons before. While he didn't lose his virginity until his 9th birthday, he was doing non-penetrative stuff with a variety of girls when he was 8, and he used that to demean me as well. A couple times he got a girl to give him a BJ in my room, hoping I'd walk in on them, and then he'd make eye contact with me and smile. We had a neighbor who was 11 or 12 and became almost addicted to his fingering, she said she couldn't reach orgasm by herself and she was dependent on my brother for satisfaction, so she often knocked on the door and asked if my brother was available to "play". I remember one time when he was fingering her vigorously on the couch and making her scream, and he said to me "I bet you'll never make a girl feel like this". Again, thanks for the questions, I'll answer the rest of them later when I have time. If you think of any more feel free to ask them as well. sub_broMay 13 2021 9:09am hi again. your previous comment about grabbing his ankles and pleading. How often did this occur? i keep thinking of your age difference. 2021May 13 2021 1:19pm I'd say I end up begging him for more maybe 1-3 times a week. When he's at home he f*cks me almost every day, and I usually am desperate for more by the time he's done, but I try my best to stop myself from being too insistent with him. He likes making me and his girlfriends beg him, but when I do it of my own accord in situations where he doesn't want me to then he can get annoyed with me, and I definitely don't want that. One time he got so irritated he threatened to not let me touch his dick for 3 days, and that scared me so much I instantly relented. So I almost always ask him for more, but if he says no I try to accept it. But there are some occasions where the removal of his c*ck from me makes me feel so empty, and my lust is so pressing, that I get so desperate that I can't stop myself from begging him profusely. The last time this happened was shortly before he went to stay with those two girlfriends of his. He had been f*cking me standing up, with me facing away from him with my back against his chest, and his hands underneath my ass lifting me up and down along his c*ck. He came inside me, and the force of his cum hitting my insides gave me another orgasm, during which he lifted me off his dick and dumped me on the ground. It had felt so amazing that I felt like nothing in the world was more important than getting him to do it again, but he said no, and started to walk away. I tried to stand up but my legs buckled beneath me, so I just crawled along the floor and grabbed his ankles to stop him from walking away. He looked down at me and I started to beg him in desperation, I don't know what I said but it was probably barely even comprehensible. My brother got the point, rolled his eyes, then picked me up and placed me face down on the couch so my legs were dangling off the sides. He lifted both my legs, inserted himself into me, and f*cked me with such force that I was drifting in and out of consciousness. "Which of his girlfriends is most vivid for you?" is a good question, there are a few that come to mind. The 13yo tomboyish girl I mentioned before is one, it was embarrassing at first when she overpowered and lifted me, but now I really enjoy it. The girl from my class who I talked about earlier is another, she's the one who had the conversation with me in the school cafeteria about the video game while my brother's cum was still in her hair. We've become friends, I really like her, we get along well and share a lot of interests. She asked me to teach her how to give good BJs to my brother, and I've been training her, giving her examples to follow and giving her pointers on her technique. She'll never be as good as me, but she's made a lot of progress. I love watching my brother have sex with anyone, but watching him f*ck her is even better than most, especially when he really brings her to a state of ecstasy. Before he started f*cking me, my brother always used to target the girls he could see I liked or had a crush on, and he was usually successful. I'll talk about that more later, and answer the other questions, I don't have time right now. Thanks for all the questions, and again, feel free to add more. sub_broMay 13 2021 6:06pm OMG. from you image, when you had your back against his chest, your feet were off the ground, right? 2021May 13 2021 6:31pm That's right. His hands were under my upper thighs, a bit below my ass, and he was using his arms to lift me up and down. The placement of his hands caused my knees to bend, meaning that my feet were in the air the whole time. My brother likes this position as it's basically a bicep workout in addition to being sex. I like it as well, it makes me feel like a ragdoll being tossed around in the air, with no control over my movement. I'll answer the rest of the questions tomorrow, as well as any more you want to ask. sub_broMay 13 2021 7:00pm Thanks for the detailed descriptions you always provide, Sub_bro. They help us to visualize all of these situations. How much is the possibility that your brother starts to outgrow you and become taller than you, and if so, how would you feel and how would it affect your relationship? TinyJoshMay 13 2021 8:30pm He probably will grow taller than me, but not by that much. One of the effects of early puberty is that the kid grows fast, but reaches his adult height very young, and his full height is shorter than it would have been if he had hit puberty at the normal age. It wouldn't make much of a difference to me if he's taller. It would make some positions easier but in a way I like that he's still a bit shorter than me, it calls attention to our age difference. He already weighs more than me, due to his very muscular physique and my skinnyness, and he has twice my strength, so he doesn't need to be taller than me. To continue answering the questions from before; My favorite of my brother's girlfriends are the two I already mentioned, the 13yo tomboy and my friend from my class, those are the two that I'm happiest to see come over. I'm very impressed by the 13yo in general, she can handle his entire dick and take a hard f*cking better than anyone I've seen, including the girls in their 20s and including me, and she rivals him in sexual aggressiveness. I think she's one of his favorites as well. Most of his girlfriends are teenagers, so the ones who aren't stand out. My dad's now ex-girlfriend is another, she comes over sometimes as well, and I love how she was assertive at first but by now my brother has turned her subservient. It's possible that she and my dad will get back together soon, and on the one hand it would be exciting to watch her cheat with her boyfriend's son, but on the other hand if she lives with us then there will be less dick for me. He also f*cks a teacher from our school, but she insists on keeping it "secret" and not letting anyone see them have sex, which is a complete waste of time as the whole school already knows. As I said, before he started f*cking me my brother always used to target the girls he could see I liked or had a crush on, and those were some of the most memorable ones. The girl he lost his virginity with was one I had had a crush on for years. After he started at my school he could usually tell which girls I was interested in, and he prioritized those ones. He always let me know immediately when he seduced them, a couple of times he did this by sending me a text from the school bathroom of a photo he took of the girl with his cum on her face. Sometimes he got more creative with the revelation, this spills over into the question you asked about humiliating experiences with his girlfriends. I'll write down a couple more of them later. What else do you want me to write about? sub_broMay 14 2021 8:19am So to continue what I was saying about my brother seducing the girls I liked; he had been doing it since he was 9, and I think he took more pleasure in seeing my reaction than he did in the sex itself. One of the first times this happened after he lost his virginity was when I was 15, I used to hang out with a neighbor girl sometimes and I had started to become interested in her. One day I showed up at her door, intending to ask her if she wanted to go see a movie, but when I knocked it was my brother who answered, and he was naked. Neither of us said a word, I just walked away dejected. More recently, last year there was a girl in my class who actually refused his advances a few times, she told me she thought he was obnoxious and arrogant. She sympathized with my situation, and I started to really like her. One day I was on my laptop and I saw she was video calling me, but when I answered I was greeted with the sight of her gulping down my brother's c*ck, while he smiled at the camera. These days when I like a girl I tell my brother about her and try to get him to f*ck her so I can watch. Anyway, none of these were the most humiliating incidents involving his girlfriends, that happened when I was 16 and he was 10. He had 3 or 4 of them over in our house, and I was in my room listening to music on my headphones at top volume in an attempt to drown out the sound. One of his girlfriends, she was 14 or 15 I think, burst into my room naked. She said that my brother had pissed her off, and she was going to get revenge on him by having sex with me. I was extremely excited about this, I knew my brother would probably beat me up but in my mind that was definitely worth it. The girl stripped my clothes off, got onto my bed, and got into position over me, so I was lying on my back and she was on her hands and knees, looking down at me. She took my erect dick between her thumb and forefinger, looked at my face, and said something like "Did you really think I wanted to f*ck *this*? At that moment, my brother pushed my door open, and I realized he had planned the whole thing. I tried to get away, but the girl grabbed my wrists and pinned them to the bed, she was a lot larger and stronger than me. Then she lay down on top of me, with her boobs against my chest, and my brother got behind her. He penetrated her from behind and f*cked her while she was still lying on top of me. Again, please ask me more questions, and tell me what I should expand on. sub_broMay 14 2021 6:31pm oh gee!. she would have been in ecstasy on top of you, pinning you down. 16 vs 10. that would have lasted a while. Say more about this experience if you like 2021May 14 2021 8:35pm OK! Like a lot of events, it was horribly humiliating at the time, but now I'd love it if my brother had sex with a girl on top of me, that sounds amazing. So my brother was having very loud sex with 3 or 4 girls downstairs, and I was in my room with my headphones on when I saw the door swing open. The naked girl standing in the doorway was extremely attractive, like most of his girlfriends. I was used to seeing her and the others naked, but it still never failed to turn me on, and my dick hardened almost instantly. She looked angry, and she told me that my brother had pissed her off somehow. She apparently wanted to get back at him by having sex with me. This was the best thing I had ever heard, I thought I was finally going to lose my virginity, and to a girl this hot! She already knew about my deficiencies, and she wanted to have sex with me anyway, so I didn't have to worry about her changing her mind either! I eagerly accepted, and she jumped onto my bed and stood on her knees at my feet. She pulled down my pants, and I took off my shirt. Then, she leaned forward so she was above me, resting on her elbows with her arms on either side of me. She crawled closer to my face, and I couldn't take my eyes off her boobs, rocking back and forth as she moved. My dick was erect, pointing straight up underneath her chest. She looked down at it, took her hand and used it to hold my dick between her thumb and forefinger, I almost came just from her touch. Then, she looked up at me, and said something like "Did you really think I wanted to f*ck *this*?" It took me a second to realize what was happening, then I started to scramble up so I could get away. She anticipated this, and dived forward, grabbing my wrists and pinning them to the bed. Now she was on her hands and knees, directly above me, with her knees on either side of my legs, her elbows on either side of my chest, and her arms effortlessly pinning mine. I was struggling, trying to free myself, when I heard the door open again, and when I turned my head I saw my brother standing there, naked with his erect c*ck sticking out in front of him, and a smile on his face. I redoubled my efforts to break free, but it was no use. I can't remember if my brother said anything as he walked up to the bed and climbed on. His girlfriend lay down on top of me in preparation, now pinning my hands to the headboard of the bed, and I could feel her nipples pressing against my chest. When I turned my head to the left I could see in my room's mirror what my brother was doing. He was kneeling on my bed, facing his girlfriend, and getting ready to insert his c*ck into her. He fully penetrated her in one thrust, then leaned forward and put his arms on either side of her, resting them on the bed as he continued to thrust in and out of her. She was moaning and writhing on top of me, and I could feel from her spasms when she had an orgasm, she had several. When she came she squeezed my abdomen between her knees very hard, it was painful. I don't know how she managed to keep hold of my wrists the whole time, she was writhing around on top of me like a snake and screaming in pleasure. My brother came at least 2 or 3 times as well, some of it dripped out of her and onto my crotch beneath her. The worst part was that my dick was still erect, and it sometimes rubbed against my brother's as he thrust into her. I had a great view of all of this through my mirror, and the difference between us was never as apparent as it was then, seeing the contrast between his giant 10yo c*ck penetrating this girl and my tiny 16yo one beneath it, being made to dry-cum by the friction between it and his. Damn I'd forgotten how exciting that incident was, I'm definitely going to ask my brother if we can re-enact it when he gets back. Again, please ask me more questions. sub_broMay 15 2021 5:51am Wow. it is what i imagined and more. Am speechless. 2021May 15 2021 11:34am Glad you enjoyed hearing about it, I enjoyed remembering it and typing it out. I was lying on the same bed and trying to picture exactly how it happened. When it comes to incidents from before my brother "broke" me, the more humiliating it was at the time the more exciting it is to me now. Do you have any more questions about him? What else should I describe? sub_broMay 15 2021 12:59pm i am really concerned about your brother and his effect(s) on a multitude of people. His teacher could go to jail for many years. Even if she teaches elsewhere, being involved with a minor will follow her years down the track. Despite the consensual nature of all this experiences, he is addicted and this will only consolidate further with his multiple daily experiences. While he is creating a wake of pleasure, it is also a wake of destruction. It all seems uncontrollable. 2021May 15 2021 1:15pm Yeah, his teacher could get into trouble, but that's on her, she made the decision to have sex with him. My brother's made advances toward other teachers but none of the others have accepted them. I know that many of them would like to have sex with him, but they all had the self control to refuse. If this one faces any consequences then it'll be her own fault. Like I said before, I don't think it's accurate to say my brother is addicted, he has a naturally high libido and access to lots of people who want to f*ck him. An analogy would be food addiction; some people are addicted to eating, and will do it even when they're not hungry, until they're morbidly obese. That's not what my brother is like, he's like a person with an extremely fast metabolism and a naturally enormous apatite, and constant access to a buffet. My brother's been doing it for almost 3 years and there hasn't been any destruction so far, other than a few relationships that were broken up. There might be negative effects later, but there's not really anything that anybody can do about that. Even if I wanted to do something about it, there's no way I could. It would mean I'd never get his dick again, and I can't really think of anything worse than that. Anyway, I need to write about him some more, it would be great if you could give me some questions or requests. sub_broMay 15 2021 2:17pm I see your point of view. The ragdoll experience:- any more to describe? AnonymousMay 15 2021 2:34pm Not much more to say about that specific incident. He had already f*cked me so much that I couldn't walk but I needed more, I begged, he accepted, and then he f*cked me until I passed out. It was great. The reason I say that position makes me feel like a ragdoll is that he's lifting me up and tossing me around like I weigh nothing, without me even holding on to anything or having any control over what happens. It's a great feeling, and I love all the positions where he's lifting me. There's another one we do sometimes where he stands on a chair, picks me up by the armpits from behind, and pins me to a wall (so I'm facing away from him), with my feet dangling off the ground. Then he penetrates me and swings his hips back and forth in a very wide arc, almost removing it totally before slamming it balls-deep into me. It's really amazing the mobility he can acheive. It's amazing to feel myself hoisted off the ground and f*cked while pinned to a wall, with my legs dangling beneath me and usually kicking around wildly and involuntarily. Sometimes I ask him to do it with me facing him, though we both generally prefer the other way. When I'm facing him he has to lift me higher and enter me from below, then lift me up and down instead of swinging his hips. The sensations aren't as good as it's slower and he can't move his c*ck as much, but it turns me on so much to be able to look at him instead of at the wall, to see his bulging biceps as he's lifting me, and his muscular chest. I've described how he f*cks me a lot, if you want I can describe what it's like to give him a BJ next. What else would you like to hear about? sub_broMay 15 2021 4:28pm So when I first started sucking my brother's c*ck I couldn't even get his whole head in my mouth, I used to just form a seal with my lips on his glans and suck on that. I also used to lick and run my mouth all the way up his shaft, and run my tongue over his glans. With a lot of practice I've actually learned to open my mouth a lot wider, and now I can fit his entire head in my mouth along with a decent portion of his shaft. My brother sometimes calls me "python" when I do that, referring to their ability to unhinge their jaw to swallow very large things. I call him "anaconda" in response, for obvious reasons. I've developed a few different BJ techniques, one of my favorites is to just take his glans and not much of his shaft into my mouth and suck it like a vacuum cleaner while ferociously running my tongue over every inch of it. I can make him cum very quickly using that method when I want to, or I can go slower and drag it out. Sometimes he "face-f*cks" me, by grabbing my head and moving it back and forth, so his dick hits the back of my throat. His c*ck is so big that the only way I can deep-throat is to do it kind-of upside down. The easiest way is for me to lie on my back on the bed, with my head sticking out over the side, and my neck bent backward. He stands up in front of my face, and inserts his dick through my mouth all the way down my throat. I can't really suck in that position, but I can lick his shaft, and he has to gently rock back and forth so the sides of my throat stimulate him. When he cums it goes pretty much directly into my stomach, I can feel it running down my esophagus. We can also do it this way standing up, my brother grips me by the pants and holds me upside down so my face is level with his crotch, I always love it when he lifts me during sex. The problem with this method is that I don't really get to taste his cum. When he cums in the non deep-throat position it completely fills up my mouth and often comes out my nose, it's my favorite taste in the world and I make sure not to waste a drop, if any of it gets onto his body I lick him clean. I almost always start the day by waking up early, going into his bedroom, getting under the blankets at his feet and crawling up until I reach his morning wood. He usually wakes up halfway through the BJ, though sometimes I give him 2 or 3 before he wakes. The very first one is the best, because he's just overflowing with cum. His hyperspermia means he replenishes it very fast and even his 10th load of the day is huge, but his first load in the morning is the product of 8 hours of accumulation, while he's sleeping is the longest he ever goes without ejaculating. He just erupts like a volcano, spewing cum into my mouth like one of those police water cannons, constantly firing rope after rope of the stuff for over a minute before he's done. I've gotten good at swallowing continuously, taking every new wave as it comes so my mouth doesn't overflow, but I still have to change the sheets after I'm done. The last couple of ropes I hold in my mouth and slosh it around, savoring the taste before I swallow. I never eat breakfast these days, this always fills me up in the morning. I've gotten extremely good at giving BJs in general, it's the thing about me I'm most proud of. When one of my brother's girls gives sub-standard ones he asks me to teach her how to do it right. I don't even have to ask my brother if I can give him one, he never says no when we're alone, so I just randomly unzip his pants without saying a word and get to work. When we're alone in the house he's usually naked, so it's common for me to just kneel down in front of him while he's talking on the phone and start sucking him, or suck him from under the table while he's eating. I can never resist when I see him naked, sometimes I cum while I'm giving him a BJ without even touching my own dick. What should I describe or expand on next, can you think of any more questions? sub_broMay 17 2021 6:09am 2021, are you still here? sub_broMay 18 2021 5:47am Hi. sorry. wifi box gave up/died on me. Took a few days to replace. Have had internet free days; a great experience in doing other things. 2021May 19 2021 2:13pm Great! My good news is that my brother is coming back in a day or two, and we'll have a while where it's just him and me before my dad gets back, I can't wait. He said he missed getting BJs from me, but I'm sure not half as much as I've missed giving them. Is there anything you want me to write more about? My brother knows I'm on this site and he's fine with it as long as I don't use any names, when he gets back I could relay some questions to him if you want? sub_broMay 20 2021 1:11pm / /May 26 2021 12:28pm discord link? hung muscle boy discordMay 27 2021 1:56am created a new discord server for these type of chats: https://discord.gg/qEZhHryY AnonymousMay 27 2021 6:42am link is invalid AnonymousMay 29 2021 2:30am Whey guys! Don't let the topic dies! TinyJoshJun 01 2021 8:22pm https://discord.gg/fWPpVQTx New discord link if anyone wants to continue chatting there AnonymousJun 05 2021 10:22am did the discord server go down? anonymous123Jun 08 2021 5:21am Maybe it'll start working again or someone can make a new one but for now i'll just repeat what i said on the discord here. I'm 20, and I have a 10 yr old cousin who is more of a man than me in every way. He's a bit shorter than me at 5ft (still very tall for his age) vs my 5 ft 4, but he's much heavier than me because of his muscles. He's been lifting weights and working out since he was 4 or 5, and now he has a huge broad chest with hard pecs and 8 or 10-pack abs, and huge biceps, he looks like a mini hercules. I've seen him bench pressing 100kg, and it looked like it was very easy for him, so I don't know what his maximum is. He can lift me with one arm, and he can beat me up very easily. He's also been sexually active for years while i'm still a virgin, his dick is 6.5 inches soft and 9.5 hard and still growing, while mine is about 3.2 inches hard. I'm twice his age, but he has twice my strength and his flaccid dick is about twice as big as my erection. Right now he's staying with my and my mom, and he and my mom have been flirting with each other a lot. He's always looking at her ass or her boobs without even trying to hide it, and he's even started complimenting them, my mom just giggles and thanks him. Since he's been staying at our house she's been wearing skimpy clothes that she never usually wears around the house. My mom also stares at his muscular chest and the bulge in his pants, and I don't like the look in her eyes when she does that, she's practically drooling. Today I saw my mom feeling his abs and squeezing his biceps, and she looked like she was in a trance. He's completely dominant over me while he's been living in our house. He's been ordering me around and even telling me when to go to bed. He does it in front of my mom and she doesn't say anything, she just lets him boss me around. A couple nights ago my cousin told me to go to bed early and then he and my mom stayed up late to watch a movie. It seems like it's only a matter of time before he seduces her. anonymous123Jun 08 2021 8:04am Geez. I guess he has made you measure and compare in private, for you to know he is 9.5inches. If that has occurred, can you say more about it? Has he done anything physical with you? shane Jun 08 2021 2:09pm Yeah, he made me compare with him for the first time about a year and a half ago, he was almost 9 at the time and I was 19. He had beaten me in armwrestling for the first time when he was 6 and I was 16, and since then he had beaten me up lots of times, so he was already completely dominant over me. I hadn't seen him in about 6 months when my mom told me I had to babysit him, and there was no way for me to get out of it. Obviously I couldn't tell him what to do, I tried to assert my authority at first but that just ended up with me in a headlock, and after that I let him do what he wanted. After about an hour a girl in her early/mid teens rang the doorbell, and my cousin told me to go upstairs and leave them alone. After a few minutes I started to hear a lot of noise coming from the living room, very loud shrieks and moans. I went back downstairs and opened the door a little to see my cousin absolutely railing this girl while she screamed in ecstasy. My dick got hard, and I couldn't stop myself from watching them and masturbating. My cousin noticed and yelled at me, I started to run away but he said he'd break my arms if I did that, and I knew he wasn't bluffing. I covered my crotch with my hands and walked into the room, and my cousin chastised me for spying on them. He told me to take my hands off my crotch, and I reluctantly obeyed. My cousin and the girl both laughed when they saw my dick, then my cousin pulled out, revealing his monster. He walked up to me and stood in front of me, with his dick pointing up and touching my chest, and mine pointing out in front, the difference was amazing. He told the girl to get a ruler and measure both of us, and it was revealed that I was less than 3 inches and he was 8.5, almost three times mine. He called me a pathetic virgin baby dicked little boy, and I actually started to cry. Then he suddenly pulled me down to my knees, pushed my head against his dick, and told me I had to suck it as punishment for my spying. I had no choice, and he came in my mouth. Since that day he's made me measure us both often, he's grown a whole inch since then. He's made me give him blowjobs a few times as well, but just as a show of dominance. anonymous123Jun 08 2021 6:18pm amazing. its been a few days now with him staying over. Any other hints that something is happening with your mother. how else does he humiliate you? shaneJun 09 2021 1:16pm Yeah, he and my mom have gotten more and more handsy, and they've been spending all day together. Now that the weather's good my cousin never ever wears a shirt, inside the house and out in public, and my mom can never take her eyes of his chest. She's always asking him to flex for her so she can feel his biceps, and running her hands over his pecs and abs and squealing with delight. Today she was doing that and I'm pretty sure there was a wet patch on her shorts, my cousin saw me looking and winked at me. I've seen my mom sitting on his lap as they watch TV with his arms around her waist, and another time they were lying on the couch with her head on his torso as she caressed his chest. She's been wearing skimpier and skimpier clothes to get his attention, this morning she asked him what he thought of her outfit and he said she should show a bit more skin, and then she spent most of the day in just short shorts and a bikini top. She gave birth to me when she was just 16 and I have to say she's objectively very attractive, guys have been telling me so my whole life and my cousin tells me all the time. Yesterday my cousin just squeezed her ass right in front of me, and my mom just giggled and put her arm around his shoulders, and today he's had his hand on her ass all the time. They left the house without telling me where they were going, and I looked out the window to see them walking down the street with his hand there. He told her to buy him a barbell so he can work out while he's staying with us and she spent a lot of money on one immediately, she spent a couple of hours today just watching him work out. My cousin has been telling me what to do all the time, like what to make for dinner and when to go to bed. He told me to go to bed really early yesterday again, and when I protested my mom told me "do what your cousin says". He's been sleeping in the same room as me, but he has taken my bed and made me sleep on the mattress that was set up for him. He told me yesterday that I'll have my own bed back soon, and that seems like a bad sign. anonymous123Jun 09 2021 6:21pm Hi. anything happening with him in your own bedroom each night. Does he dominate you in private? PpJun 10 2021 1:45pm My cousin always makes me go to bed early, then a few hours later he comes in. Sometimes I'm asleep by then and I usually wake up when he arrives because he doesn't try to be quiet, but I pretend to still be asleep so he won't bother me. He sleeps naked, and the weather's hot so he doesn't use the blanket, so I can always see his dick. I wake up before him and he usually has a giant erection sticking up into the air, seeing it makes me feel so inferior. Last night, a couple hours after he sent me to bed, I went back downstairs to get some water. My cousin and my mom were watching a movie and drinking wine and my mom was feeling his biceps again, she hasn't been able to take her hands off him for the last couple of days. My cousin noticed I had come down and yelled at me, I ran back upstairs and he said he'd punish me later. An hour after that he came up to my room, slightly tipsy, and told me it was time for my punishment. I apologized and desperately pleaded with him, saying I'd never do it again, but he said I had to learn a lesson. Then he dropped his pants, and his erect dick flopped up in front of my face. He said "your hot mom gave me this, so now it's your job to deal with it". I had to take as much of it as I could fit into my mouth and suck, he made me give him two blowjobs in succession, apparently my first wasn't good enough. He said "I hope your mom gives better blowjobs than you do, I'll find out soon". I had to swallow all his cum, then clean up all the stuff that went onto the sheets and the floor. So yeah, he dominates me in private. When we're alone and he's bored he often beats me up just for fun, until I beg him to stop. anonymous123Jun 10 2021 2:29pm @anonymous123: your cousin sounds incredible! It sounds like you're resigned to the fact that he'll be f*cking your mom before long. Does he have a history of doing that sort of thing to other people? GalenJun 11 2021 6:29am He's definitely f*cked people's mothers lots of times, he's bragged to me about doing it with the moms of some of the boys in his class. He's also f*cked the wives and girlfriends of quite a few guys, last year he stole the girlfriend of one of our other cousins. I saw it happen, they had sex loudly on his bed while I tried to console him in the next room. The older cousin wanted to confront him, but I convinced him that was a bad idea, he just had to let it happen. They actually got back together once our 10 year old cousin was done with her and they're still together now, but the 10 year old still shows up to have sex with her when he feels like it. There's nothing her boyfriend can do about that. He's told me about how he sometimes has to drop his girlfriend off our cousin's house, then wait in the car for an hour until she returns. And his girlfriend is apparently always very excited while they're on the way to his house. Other times the 10 year old just shows up at their house uninvited and takes his girlfriend upstairs. I heard about a time last night when he took his girlfriend on a big expensive date, and when he got back to the house he found the 10 year old waiting there. anonymous123Jun 11 2021 8:10am geez. how old is this older cousin of yours and how old is his girlfriend? Another day/night has passed since yesterday. What has he done to you and/or your mother? PpJun 11 2021 12:03pm My older cousin is 24 and his girlfriend is the same age. They're actually engaged now, though his girlfriend has no intention of stopping having sex with our cousin, and the boyfriend doesn't do anything about it and he even helps her do it, like driving her to our cousin's place. Last night my cousin woke me up when he came to bed and made me give him another blowjob, that's 2 days in a row now. I protested, saying I didn't do anything wrong and I followed all his orders, but he said "would you rather I go see if your mom wants to do it instead?" Just the image of that happening in my imagination was enough to make me give in. I know it's going to happen eventually so I guess I should just let him get it over with, but I can't stand the thought of him railing my mom, so I just try to put it off as long as I can, even though it's pointless. I couldn't refuse an order from him even without that threat though, he would beat me up so bad. I'm actually kinda thankful that all he makes me do is suck him, I'm scared that if I say no he'll just f*ck me instead, and with a dick like his that could seriously injure me. I'm kinda worried about that happening to my mom, I hope he goes easy on her. Anyway, my cousin has been spending all his time with my mom, and she's becoming more and more entranced by him. They went swimming today, and even though he wore huge oversized swimming trunks his bulge was extremely prominent, I could see the outline of his dick going down one of the legs. I think it was the clearest look that my mom had ever had of it and she couldn't take her eyes off it the whole time. I think I saw her touching herself in the pool while she looked at my cousin lying on the ground. Later, my cousin was working out while my mom watched, and the next time I saw them he was doing bench presses using my mom as the barbell. It was clear she was very turned on by that, her face was flushed and red, she was sweating. She was wearing very tight shorts with a prominent camel toe, and this time it was certain that there was a huge wet patch, the bottom half of her shorts were soaking. She went to take a bath afterwards and when I walked past the bathroom I heard her moaning softly, it sounded like she was masturbating. I've seen lots of women and girls who were under my cousin's spell, like our older cousin's girlfriend, but it's heartbreaking to see my mom reduced to that state. anonymous123Jun 11 2021 12:28pm what a terrible experience for you, being so powerless to stop anything. how much longer is he staying with you? seems like there is something preventing him from already taking the next step with your mother. Does he humuliate you with side by side comparisons? PpJun 11 2021 1:19pm He's staying with us for at least another month. He does do side by side comparisons, and it makes me feel so pathetic and inferior, my dick is small enough compared to an average one but compared to his it's infinitesimal. Sometimes it actually makes me cry to see them side by side, and my cousin loves that. You're right, it's a terrible experience, at first I was holding out hope that he wouldn't be successful but now it's obvious that it's inevitable. I just have to wait until he decides to add my mom to his conquests, while I watch her degrade herself more and more for him first. I just have to hope he's gentle with her and doesn't hurt her too much with his dick when they take the plunge. I'm not completely sure why he hasn't made his move yet, all of us know she would welcome it. I think he just enjoys teasing and torturing her, seeing her desperation grow and grow, as she becomes hornier and more obsessed with him. She's been getting really desperate now, after she took her bath she came down with a towel wrapped around her, and "accidentally" let it fall to the ground so my cousin could see her naked, not caring that I could also see. He didn't show much of a reaction, and right now she's in a bath robe configured to show a lot of side-boob and short enough that her p*ssy is visible when she holds her legs apart. She's obviously trying to entice him, but he's acting uninterested, which leads to her acting even more desperately, and I think he likes having that kind of power over her. I've seen him take this teasing approach with other girls in the past, including with our older cousin's girlfriend, and I think it leads to her ending up even more devoted and obsessive about him than otherwise. My mom is usually so assertive and confident, it's painful to see her in this kind of state. My cousin was out of the house for about an hour earlier today and my mom kinda went back to normal for a while, but as soon as he returned she went right back to drooling over his body and obeying his every command, it's like she's a different person, like a cross between a star-struck schoolgirl and a dog in heat. anonymous123Jun 11 2021 2:13pm for a boy so young to be so cunning /calculating is alarming. He should be playing games on his iphone.! What are his present measurement compared to yours. Does he barbell you? I suspect you are quite skinny as well as being short. How else does he humuliate yopu? PpJun 11 2021 2:31pm Yeah, he can be pretty cruel, part of me actually feels a bit sorry for my mom because he's really driving her crazy just for his own amusement. We measured our dicks again last week, his is 6.5 soft and 9.5 hard, and mine is 3.2 hard, we didn't bother measuring me soft. You're right that I'm skinny, I'm 5'4" and 45kg, which actually makes me clinically underweight, I've been trying to eat more and gain weight but it's not really working. My cousin is 5 feet tall and I don't actually know how much he weighs, though I know it's a lot more than me. He's incredibly buff and almost all of his weight is muscle, and I don't even really know how to estimate the weight of someone like that. He has barbelled me lots of times, but I'm much too light to give him a workout, it's much too easy. He has dumbbells that weigh as much as me. He can lift me with one hand, and he does that pretty often as it's an ok weight for one of his workouts. He humiliates me in lots of ways, while he's been staying in my house he's been making me do all the cooking and the cleaning, and when he orders me around he calls me names like "baby dick" and "little boy", my mom usually laughs when she hears that. He's made me come into the shower with him a couple times to wash his back, his torso is so big that he can't reach some places, and he made me wash his dick and balls as well even though he can reach that. He's generally been treating me like a servant, and my mom's been going along with that. anonymous123Jun 11 2021 5:06pm One of the issues every guy (and gal) needs to achieve is an increasing degree of self-acceptance. This is a lifelong task with ups and downs along the way. Just dealing with the fact that you are 20 and 45kg, is in itself a task even without the reality of your cousin in your face. As you know, it's all genetics and to a significant percentage of the population, life has been cruel in this department. one cannot compete with 9.5 on a 10 year old, and probably 90% of males can't either. So, how does one feel 'good about self' as one is? If only there was a 'magic-answer' to this. When he barbells you, are you nude? How else does he humiliate you during the side by side comparisons? PpJun 11 2021 5:26pm I'd be able to get over my own shortcomings if I wasn't being constantly confronted with my cousin and his complete superiority over me. Being beat up by him at 6 when I was 16, watching him have sex at 8 while I was still a virgin at 19 and even being forced to masturbate to the sight of it while a boy over 10 years younger was having the real thing, using his far far superior strength to make me suck his dick, these kind of things can't help but make me feel inferior. I know my cousin is extraordinary and I shouldn't compare myself to him, but it's impossible not to. Now that he has my mom wrapped around his little finger it's even worse. He's joked about becoming my "new dad" and I can't think of anything worse than that. He's bench pressed me while naked before, including with one hand, but usually I was wearing clothes. It's worse when he's naked, he's done it with an erection before and I was terrified he'd drop me onto it accidentally, the balance isn't perfect when he's lifting me with one arm. The side by side comparisons are humiliating enough by themselves, like I said he also calls me names and brags about his sexual accomplishments. Many of the times he's made me give him a blowjob came after one of these comparisons, the whole thing is an exercise in cementing his dominance over me and that's the final step. Our older cousin (the one who's girlfriend he's f*cking) told me he's done those comparisons with him as well, he says his dick is average sized but still only about half the size of the 10 year old. Apparently these comparisons always occur in front of the girlfriend, and always end with the younger cousin f*cking her in front of her boyfriend. I'm guessing he does that partially because he enjoys it and partially to keep the older cousin in line, break his spirit and show him why his girlfriend prefers him. anonymous123Jun 11 2021 7:54pm At 20, your time at home is coming to an end and you will be living an independent life away from your mother. You could never see this cousin again. This comment that he could be your 'new dad' is a boyish notion resulting from his swollen preadolescent mind. Have you consider writing a letter to his mother to inform her of his activities? he seems like a loose cannon that will be leaving a trail of destruction similar to the brother of sub_bro. PpJun 12 2021 12:36pm I do want to move out as soon as I can, but that won't solve all the problems. Just knowing that she's degraded herself and been reduced to a slavish plaything of my cousin is terrible, and that's before they've even had sex, I can't imagine what she'll be like afterwards. I still love my mom and I don't want to lose contact with her, but if every time I come back home I'll be faced with this version of her then that's even worse. This morning my cousin and I both heard the unmistakable sounds of her masturbating in her room while moaning my cousin's name, and as her desperation is growing she's becoming more subservient to him. She timidly asked if she could feel his bicep again today, and he told her to make him some pancakes first, which she immediately did. When she got to feel his muscles I saw that same wet patch spread in her underwear again, and she was literally salivating. He's been giving us both orders, and she obeys him without question and will do anything to be near him or touch him. She used to be so confident and self-assured and independent, and now I have to watch her behave like this, and there's nothing I can do to stop it. Even if I never see her again just the knowledge of what he's done to her is awful, and I don't want to never see her again. He definitely is leaving a trail of destruction, with women and girls who used to be functional and intelligent reduced to a state similar to the one my mom's in, and men like our older cousin broken and humiliated from watching the women they love go through this, as well as sometimes being beaten up and injured by him. Unfortunately writing a letter to his mother would be no help, she's a total mess, the reason my cousin is staying in my house is that his mother is in rehab now. She knows what her son is like and she doesn't care. There's a decent chance she won't be able to take her son back for a long time, depending on how her treatment goes, and my cousin has made references to moving in with my mom long term, so the "new dad" thing wasn't an idle threat. I could call child protective services, but they would place him with a relative, which would probably be my mom. I couldn't alert the police, because then it's my mom who would be arrested, and I certainly don't want that. anonymous123Jun 12 2021 1:20pm what a dilemma. Thanks for sharing this. Every avenue has its pluses and minuses. you are in a very difficult position. You do have one ally and that is your older cousin. Have you discussed the situation with him? Two heads are better than one. Child protective services is a good ally and this doesn't necessarily mean he will be placed with your mother, especially if they know the facts which only you (and your older cousin) can provide. His calculating manner of seducing women needs to be revealed as well as his aggressive behaviours. His welfare is also at stake here and it will now need some responsible and more objective adults to intervene. i guess than means you and your older cousin. PpJun 12 2021 2:11pm I am pretty close with my older cousin and we do discuss things, it helps to talk to someone else in a similar position who knows what each other are going through. We both know there's nothing we can do though, we just talk to commiserate with each other and try to comfort each other. His spirit has been broken by watching his girlfriend fall under our cousin's spell and watching him f*ck her so often, seeing his superiority in strength, penis size, sexual prowess, and overall masculinity. He's just accepted that he's under his domination, and he'd never try to defy him. Child protective services knows about my younger cousin's mother's addiction problems and they may not let her take him back, in which case they would definitely place him with a relative, and my mom would make sure that it's her, and even if it wasn't he would still have access to her. I couldn't provide them with any facts to stop them from placing my cousin with my mom, because that would mean telling them about my mom's sexual involvement with my cousin, and that would lead to my mom getting arrested, as well as my older cousin's girlfriend. Regardless of my cousin's seduction methods, the law would still consider my mom and all the other adult women he's seduced to have committed serious crimes, and there's no way I'm sending my mom to prison. My older cousin and I have both thought about how we can fix things for a long time, and unfortunately we've come to the conclusion that there's nothing we can do. Even if there were something that might work, both of us are far too terrified of my cousin to try it. Last year I threatened to call the police as my cousin was beating me for his amusement, and he calmly and matter-of-factly told me that if I ever did that he would break both of my arms and both of my legs, and I know he wasn't bluffing. I really don't have any options, I just have to beg him to be gentle and not hurt my mom when he decides to f*ck her, and hope he gets bored with her eventually and moves on. anonymous123Jun 12 2021 2:50pm thanks for your considered response. Am glad that you have an ally in your older cousin. Your reflections are rational. i hope you keep looking for possibilities PpJun 12 2021 3:04pm I guess you can see now how powerless I am against my cousin, I have no options. He's been dominant over me since the first time he beat me in arm wrestling when he was 6, and it's only gotten worse over the last 4 years. What he's doing to my mom is by far the worst thing he's done to me, I'd take a hundred beatings in preference to that. She's degrading herself more and more, I saw her take a pair of my cousin's dirty underwear into the bathroom with her today and that was followed by the sound of her masturbating. Today she wore nothing but underwear for most of the day and she practically begged my cousin to go swimming with her again, probably so she could see the bulge in his swimming trunks. When she's wearing just panties it's very easy to see when she gets wet, and they were soaking practically all day, getting even wetter when she got to feel his chest, abs, and biceps. She had to change her underwear 3 or 4 times today just because of that. My cousin left the house for a few hours to pay our older cousin's girlfriend a visit. My mom asked if she could come to, and he outright said "i'll be f*cking her, maybe next time you can come along". My mom looked so incredibly jealous, she went to her room and I could hear her masturbating again while calling his name. She actually started to snap out of it though, he was gone for about 4 hours and by the end my mom seemed almost back to her normal self, she even put on some clothes. We talked for a while without mentioning my cousin and it was really nice to have a conversation with my mom again. But then my cousin returned, shirtless and smelling of sex, and my mom immediately went back to her obsession, becoming that desperate and degraded person again who is totally different from the mom I know. I feel sorry for her too, she's being driven totally crazy, and a very, very small part of me wishes my cousin would just stop toying with her and f*ck her already, though obviously I hate the idea of that happening. I talked to my older cousin about it and he said what's happening to my mom is very similar to what happened to his girlfriend, and he said she got even worse after they had sex. anonymous123Jun 12 2021 7:16pm thanks for the update. (I have been away from my computer). If a stranger walked past your 10 yr old cousin in the street, how old would a stranger think he is? PpJun 12 2021 9:10pm You'd probably be quite confused if you saw him on the street. He's tall for his age, but still only 5 feet. His face is handsome, but still quite youthful and even cute. But if you look below the neck you'd see a barrel chest, very wide shoulders, incredibly thick upper arms banded with muscle, and legs like tree trunks. If you saw him now he'd probably be shirtless as he almost never wears one when the weather is warm, so you'd also see his pecs and abs, and you'd also see the big bulge in his shorts. It's quite a contrast from his face. I was out in public with him today and everyone who passed us was staring at him, teenage girls were especially interested and I saw some biting their lips and trying to discreetly take photos, my mom didn't like to see the women and girls staring and she got quite jealous and possessive of him. He ran in to a teenage girl he knows and they stopped to talk, and my mom just scowled at her the whole time, she looked very relieved when the they parted ways. My mom twisted her ankle as we were walking, but I'm pretty sure she was faking it so my cousin would carry her. He carried her in his arms the rest of the way, and the telltale wet patch in her shorts appeared again, eventually growing to soak the entire lower half of them. She was feeling his pecs as he carried her along and her extreme arousal was obvious, but she didn't seem to care at all who saw. My cousin's toying is turning her into someone I don't recognize at all. I can't post a photo of my cousin because he'd kill me if he found out, but my older cousin once sent me a CGI picture he found on the internet that looks a bit like him, though my cousin is more muscular. Here it is: i.imgur.com/J3M6Yls.png anonymous123Jun 13 2021 10:47am Had no luck with the imgur link despite many tries. Your concern about your mother's mental condition is admirable. Seeing you had a talk to her the other day about other matters, can you talk to her about this when he is not around? PpJun 13 2021 11:26am That's weird, the link works for me. Try this: https://imgur.com/J3M6Yls or this: https://i.imgur.com/5trBVCT.png . Keep in mind it's only a rough approximation of what my cousin looks like, my cousin's more muscular and his face and hair look different. My concern about my mom is partially selfish, it crushes me to see her head-over-heels for this kid who has been tormenting me for years, seeing her acting like a cat in heat over him and completely abandoning all her pride and dignity to debase herself before him. Another part of my concern is for her sake, it can't be good for her mental health to be in this state. And I feel sorry for her at the moment, I can see how frustrated she is with her extreme arousal and how much she wants to relieve it, but my cousin is teasing and toying with her and not letting her get any satisfaction. It's very cruel of my cousin, she's hurting pretty bad. She's forced to just masturbate all the time, my cousin sent me to get something from her room today shortly after one of her sessions and I saw a bunch of photos him open on her computer next to another pair of his underwear. My cousin has noticed her preoccupation with his underwear, before he went into the shower today he handed her the pair he'd been wearing and said "I thought you might want to have this", and sure enough she went into her room again and locked the door. I'm also worried about her physical health, a very thick 9.5 inch c*ck can do a lot of damage, a lot of women can't handle it and my cousin has caused some injuries before. I would hate it if my mom got physically hurt or injured by him while they're having sex. I know I need to try to talk with my cousin and beg him, if he has to f*ck my mom, to be gentle with her at least at first and try to limit the amount of pain she'll feel, to at least start out slow not to go all the way in on the first thrust. I haven't been able to bring myself to say any of those words out loud to him yet, but I need to do it before it's too late. I can't imagine having a conversation with my mom about my cousin, I would die of embarrassment and awkwardness. Any honest conversation would involve her acknowledging how horny she is for him, and even though that's obvious it would break my heart to hear her say it to me. Anyway, anything I could convince her to do would be out the window as soon as my cousin comes back, and she turns back into the person that she has become when she's around him. anonymous123Jun 13 2021 2:21pm the second link worked, not the first. To think he is more than what is shown. You have the ability to talk to your mother. There are two difficulties in any such conversation: - i) we don't know WHAT to say, - ii) we are embarrassed. YOU know WHAT to say, and that is more than half the problem. Feelings such as embarrassment are temporary and once you begin, you will notice any embarrassment-type feelings will diminish. Without your chat, she will turn back to her submissive self; perhaps after your chat, you might be stronger within herself. you will never know until you try and you don't want to die not knowing. What is his girth, any ideas? PpJun 13 2021 2:38pm My cousin has broader shoulders, more prominent abs, and thicker arms with more visible biceps (even when unflexed) than the boy in the picture. They look about the same age though, and the picture does a decent job demonstrating the contrast between his youthful and "cute" face and his muscular body. I think a lot of girls are attracted to that combination, teenagers especially but also a lot of adults. Someone told me recently about a condition called myostatin related muscle hypertrophy and suggested my cousin might have it, and I think that might be true. I think you're right about talking to my mom, I should try to push myself to do it. It would have to be after my cousin has been away from her for a while and she has started to fall out of his spell though, next time I get a chance like that I'll try to talk to her. I'm almost certain it wouldn't make a difference, but I should try. I've never measured his girth but I would guess it's at least 7 or 7.5 inches, maybe more. He made me come in to the shower with him again today and I had to wash his genitals, and he got an erection as I was doing it. When I was holding his dick I saw how my hand doesn't even fit around it, as I held it my thumb and forefingers didn't even come close to touching, and it made me very scared about the possibility of it hurting or injuring my mom when they have sex. I told myself that he has sex with lots of women and girls who are smaller than my mom and he seems to be able to do it without causing serious injuries when he wants to, but I'm still worried and I hate the thought of my mom being in pain, I need to try to get him to to go easy on her when they do it. I'm dreading that conversation almost as much as the conversation with my mom. I won't even be begging him not to f*ck my mom, I'll be begging him to be gentle while he's f*cking my mom, it'll be so humiliating. anonymous123Jun 13 2021 7:35pm Hi. you know what needs to be said to your mom; am glad you are on the verge of speaking to your mom. i'd be interested in your report on it. PpJun 13 2021 9:23pm I haven't had a chance to speak to my mom in private yet, I'm dreading it. This morning my older cousin drove over to my house with his girlfriend, who immediately ran up to the younger cousin and started making out with him. My mom saw this and she looked devastated, and a wet patch quickly began to form in her underwear. My cousin carried the girlfriend up to my room, and before long the sounds of thumping and extremely loud screaming and moaning started, it could be heard everywhere in the house. I knew they were having sex on my bed, and I'd have to clean that up later. My older cousin and I sat on the couch downstairs and talked while this was happening, I told him about what's become of my mom and my plans to have a talk with her, and he said he thinks it would be pointless but it won't hurt to try. It's helpful to talk to him because he's gone through something similar to what I'm currently going through, and he said what's happening to my mom is almost exactly like what happened to his girlfriend when our cousin first set his sights on her. It was awkward to talk about this while he was f*cking her upstairs though, we had to almost shout to hear each other. I had to briefly go upstairs, and that's when I saw my mom. She was sitting on the floor with her back against my closed bedroom door, bottomless with her underwear next to her, masturbating furiously to the sounds. I wasn't expecting to see anything so extreme and I couldn't help but stare in shock for a couple of seconds. She looked up at me for a second and we made eye contact, her eyes looked glassy like there were tears in there, but even then she didn't stop masturbating. She just closed her eyes and tilted her head back against the door and let out a load moan. It tore me up inside to see her like that and I ran back downstairs, the image of it is still etched in my mind. I was in tears as I told my older cousin what I had seen, and he gave me a hug and started crying as well. I remember having to try to comfort him the first time our cousin f*cked his girlfriend, and this was alomst the reverse of that. anonymous123Jun 14 2021 8:08am Oh gosh! your mother has provided you with the reason for having that dreaded chat. Her state outside your door is something you begin your conversation with, and you can add the rest. Your cousin's claim that it is worth a try is something I agree with. I wouldn't be begging him yet to treat your mom well, as this is giving him permission to take his next step. I sense you need to act quickly/immediately. PpJun 14 2021 1:06pm I still haven't had a chance to talk to my mom. It would need to be while my cousin is out of the house and the effect he has on her has started to wear off, I definitely couldn't do it while she's in this state of extreme arousal caused by being near my cousin. He did go out again today to visit some other girl, apparently our older cousin's girlfriend wasn't enough for him. I hoped I could talk to my mom, but I think the incident this morning where she was listening to my cousin have sex has accelerated her degeneration. After my cousin was done f*cking our older cousin's girlfriend he carried her back downstairs, with her still naked and barely conscious, and put her in my cousin's car so he could drive her back to their house. My cousin went to work out for a while and my mom watched. I went up to look at my bed, and the sheets and blanket were soaking and stained with sweat, cum, and vaginal lubrication. Later, after my cousin had gone to the other girl's place, I went back to my room intending to throw the sheets and blanket into the garbage and buy new ones, when I saw they were already gone. There was a trail of moisture on the ground made from someone dragging the wet sheets along it, and it led to my mom's room. Coming from inside was the sound that unfortunately I am very used to hearing now, my mom masturbating and moaning my cousin's name, presumably using the sheet drenched in his sweat and cum as an aid. I waited for her to finish so I could have that conversation, but she just got louder, and I had to put my headphones on in full volume to get away from the sound. She kept going for 3 hours, only stopping when my cousin came back. Previously she would start to get back to normal after being away from my cousin for a while, but this time that didn't happen, if anything she got worse. I'm going to try to think of a way to get him out of the house for a longer period of time, but so far I haven't thought of anything. The idea that my mom might just be stuck in this state now is very scary to me. Also, my cousin doesn't need my permission to do anything, but do think it's dangerous to beg him to be gentle just because there's a chance he might decide to do the opposite just to spite me, I'm not sure what I should do there. anonymous123Jun 14 2021 2:30pm I am running out of expletives. you are correct in that he might behave out of spite. Focus, deep breath and have that conversation as soon as possible, even if the conditions are not 'perfectly' favourable PpJun 14 2021 2:42pm Well I wasn't going to burst into her room and try to talk to her while she was masturbating with the cum soaked bedsheet, and she's already shown me that my presence isn't enough to make her stop. I'm pretty much certain now that nothing I could say will make a difference, she's much too far gone, but if I don't try then I might wonder for the rest of my life if I could have stopped it, so even if there's only a 0.0000001% chance I have to try. I think I have a bit more time. I'm alone in the house now, my cousin and my mom are out and I'm not sure where. It turns out my cousin bought my mom a present while he was on his way back from the last girl's place. It was a ridiculously skimpy outfit, with a top that barely covers her nipples and makes their erect state very visible, and shorts that are basically a thong, it makes her look like a hooker. He showed it to her and told her to put it on for their outing, my mom was delighted and ran to change into it. I was horrified and my cousin must have seen that on my face. As he and my mom were about to leave, he smiled at me and leaned in close, and said "I'm just gonna show off my new slut. Don't worry, I won't f*ck her yet, I want you around to see it when I do that". Then he slapped her ass hard, squeezed, and they walked out the door and down the street with his hand still on it. I'm glad to know they're not having sex right now, but the part about having me around to see it is terrifying. It's absolutely destroying me to see what's become of the woman who used to be my mom, seeing her in that outfit wasn't even the worst thing that happened today. I accidentally got a very clear look at her bottomless and masturbating, which is obviously something I never wanted to see, and now I can't forget it. I've been getting flashbacks to it, and every time I close my eyes the image pops into my head. My older cousin told me his girlfriend was behaving a lot like my mom before our cousin f*cked her, and afterwards she was even worse. I find it hard to imagine how my mom could get any worse, though unfortunately I'll probably find out before long. anonymous123Jun 14 2021 5:10pm How terrible for you. I agree with your belief that you have to try to have that talk despite the possibility of a 0.0000001% success rate. Your mother needs an ally PpJun 15 2021 11:30am I finally managed to have that conversation with my mom. Last night I fell asleep before my mom and my cousin came back to the house. I was woken up by my cousin, who was drunk, who made me give him another blowjob. I didn't try to argue as he's even more unpredictable when he's drunk, but this time he was much rougher with me. He jammed his dick into my mouth, grabbed my head, and violently pulled and pushed my head toward him and away from him, so my mouth rubbed against his shaft and his dick kept hitting the back of my throat with a lot of force. Eventually he changed it up and had me sit with my head against the wall held in place by his hand, and he basically humped my mouth until he came. I was angry with him, and the thought of him treating my mom in similar way gave me the motivation to make my doomed attempt to talk her out of it. After I cleaned myself up and got the taste of his cum out of my mouth I went to find her, she was asleep on the couch. Her hand was inside her underwear, so I took hold of her arm and removed it before I woke her up. I was glad to see she wasn't drunk (or only a little drunk), and I asked her where my cousin took her, she said they went to a party with some of his friends, mostly older than him. Once she had properly woken up, I started to say what I needed to say. I told her it's breaking my heart to see the effect my cousin has on her, that it's not good for her either, that she needs to send him to stay with someone else. Tears were starting to form in my eyes as I was saying this. At first she tried to say she didn't know what I was talking about. I gave some examples, and I brought up seeing her masturbating outside my room as he was having sex. Then she started crying as well and admitted it was true. She said she can't help it, she has no control over herself when she's around him, she's just so overwhelmed by lust just at the sight of him that nothing else matters, and when he's not around she can't think of anything but him. She even told me she has had orgasms just by touching his body. I couldn't believe I was hearing these kind of words coming from my mom, it was absolutely crushing, but that wasn't the worst part. I can't remember her exact words, but she said something along the lines of "when I see his smile, his chest, his muscles, his.. oh god" and she plunged her hand back down her underwear and started rapidly masturbating again, while telling me not to look. I closed my eyes and tried to hug her, but I could feel the rapid twitching of her arm, and in the end I went back upstairs and eventually fell asleep to the sound of my mom's moans. Neither of us mentioned our conversation today, and she went back to slobbering over my cousin and obeying his every command, and he went back to degrading, teasing, and toying with her. I didn't expect our conversation to change anything, but I also didn't expect it to go like that, it was much worse than the worst case scenario I thought about before. anonymous123Jun 15 2021 5:25pm Commiserations...and well done. Glad you took the opportunity while he was dead to the world and during less that ideal circumstances. you have 'broken the ice' on the issue. Expectations are important and under the circumstances, i would not expect a complete turnaround after your courageous chat. You were genuine in your concerns; it came from the heart; she has opened up to you to some extent. the next step is to build on this, to capitalize on this. you have done the hard bit, that is, to initiate the conversation. Harder bits to come. PpJun 15 2021 5:56pm At least I found out that my mom knows about the effect my cousin has on her, and when she's in one of her brief periods of lucidity she doesn't like it either, but she just can't help herself. She started masturbating right in front of me because she worked herself up just from briefly talking about my cousin, and it was horrible to see her like that. She said she has had orgasms just from touching him, and I saw that happening today. My mom was wearing the same outfit that she wore to the party, and she was watching him working out, there was actual drool coming out her mouth. He was lying on the bench after putting the bar down, and she asked if she could feel his abs. He agreed, and she knelt down beside him and started running her hands over her abs. She was already wet while she was watching him, and after just a few seconds of feeling his abs she shuddered violently, let out a moan, and fell forward onto his chest, her body still twitching. My cousin saw me looking at them, smiled at me, and winked. He picked her up and dropped her on the couch, then said "when you've recovered go make me some food, then maybe I'll let you feel my biceps, and if you're a really good girl I'll give you my underwear to play with tonight". That was apparently a very good motivator because she's been even more subservient to him today, it's painful to see how desperate she is for him. My cousin also made us compare dicks again this morning, and as usual I had to give him a blowjob afterward, though at least he wasn't as rough as last time. This time we measured with a tape measure, so he made me measure his girth as well. He is 7.7 inches in circumference, meaning he's almost as wide as mine is long. He made a comment as I was measuring, saying "your dad must have been tiny if he made a son like you. Your mom's never had a c*ck anything like mine before, I hope she can handle it. I'll show her what a real c*ck is like". It's true, I had caught glimpses of my dad's dick and it looked about the same size as mine. He and my mom got married when they were 16 and they got divorced a few years ago, my mom always said he was her first and only boyfriend/husband and she hasn't dated anyone since their divorce, I'm pretty sure he's been her only partner. I'm worried about how she'll survive sex with my cousin. anonymous123Jun 16 2021 10:49am Hi again. Your mom knows what is happening to her. See this as a plus and endeavour to build on this in her more lucid moments. another thought I had is that perhaps the need is for a 4-way chat: YOU, your older cousin, his girlfriend and your mom. You all need to support one another. I know, easier said than done. PpJun 16 2021 1:20pm I actually got to talk with my older cousin today, he brought his girlfriend over again. This time my cousin asked my mom if she'd rather they use my bed or her's, and she instantly said she wanted them to use her's. Again, she spent the whole time masturbating outside the door while my older cousin and I talked downstairs, this time I made sure not to see my mom but we could hear her moans. I told my older cousin about the talk I had with my mom, and he said I was very brave, but he thinks it would be pointless to try again. I suggested what you said, that he and his girlfriend could be involved, but he firmly rejected that idea. He's afraid of what our cousin would do to him if he found out he had tried to get my mom not to have sex with him, he has a history of brutalizing guys who try to stand in his way. He also said it would be a terrible idea to get his girlfriend to talk to my mom, she would tell her how good it feels to get f*cked by my cousin and encourage her to go for it, she's done that with other girls. He said the best thing I can do is emotionally prepare myself for what's going to happen, and I think he might be right. I also mentioned my fears about our cousin's dick hurting my mom, and he said he generally goes easy on his new conquests at first, and only goes all-out when they're used to his size, so that makes me feel a little bit better. anonymous123Jun 16 2021 5:02pm Yeah...any larger conversation could go either way. my mind is a blank. Your younger cousin needs help PpJun 16 2021 8:26pm I'm sure he wouldn't say he needs help, he's pretty happy with his situation. But he does need to be stopped for the sake of the people around him, the problem is that nobody can think of any way to do that. His mother would be no help, even if she weren't in rehab. She always knew the kinds of things her son does, and she doesn't mind at all, she's even proud of him, she often brags about him to other family members. He used to bring girls (including his cousin's girlfriend) over to his house and loudly have sex with them while his mom was in the house. Back when she used to hire babysitters for her son I heard him ask her to hire a specific girl because "she gives the best blowjobs". I even heard her ask him "who have you f*cked today?", and after he listed two or three names she said "well done!". Someone told me about a dispute she once had with a neighbor where she threatened to sic her son on him, using him like an attack dog. She deserves to lose custody of him and it's pretty likely that she will, at least temporarily, but that would be even worse for me and my mom. anonymous123Jun 17 2021 4:55am of course; he is having the time of his life. His is undisciplined, out of control, growing in confidence each day as he is unchallenged. He will only get worse and increase his trail of destruction. You need additional support and this needs to be found officially, with agencies that deal with such matters. Talk to your older cousin. Do not dismiss options PpJun 17 2021 1:47pm Well it's too late for any of that, it finally happened. My mom and my cousin were watching TV, and he called me in. I could tell something was wrong immediately. My cousin said "I think it's time to show your mom how we measure up against each other, take off your pants". I pleaded for him not to do this, and he smiled and turned the decision over to my mom, telling her "it's up to you, do you want to see our c*cks or not?" I was hoping against hope she'd say no, but she nodded enthusiastically. I felt so betrayed. I took off my pants and stood there with my flaccid dick out, my cousin told me to get hard so I rubbed it, it was difficult as I was obviously not in the mood for anything. He asked my mom about my dad's size, and she confirmed that he was about the same size as me. Then he told my mom to measure me, which was extremely awkward and humiliating, though she took a lot of care not to touch me. After that was done, he asked her again if she wanted to see his c*ck, to which she enthusiastically agreed, and she already had her hand down her pants. Then he said it wasn't fair that the two of us be naked while she isn't, so she had to take her clothes off if she wanted him to do the same, and she did it without hesitation, I've never seen anyone strip so quickly. I had never seen my mom fully naked before and I never wanted to, but it's impossible to deny that she's objectively very attractive, and I can tell my cousin agrees. Finally he took off his pants, and my mom looked like she almost fainted when she saw. He told her to measure him as well, and I could see fluid dripping out of her vagina as she handled his flaccid dick, and said he was 6.5 inches. Then came the worst part so far, he said "well now I need to get hard, it's up to you how to make that happen". It was the worst sight I had ever seen in my life up to that point when my mom took his flaccid dick in her mouth and started sucking, while using her other hand to masturbate. Within a few seconds he was hard and my mom had orgasmed, after which she measured him again. She looked completely in awe, like she was hypnotized, and her voice sounded strange when she read out that he was 9.5 inches. I was paralyzed watching this occur. He asked her if she'd ever seen a c*ck that big before, and she said no, the only one she'd seen belonged to my dad. My cousin said "you want this inside you, don't you?", and my mom said yes. He pushed her down onto the couch, stood up in front of her with his dick against her vagina, and told her to say how much she wanted it. I had to listen to my mom say some truly depraved and desperate things, it felt completely surreal hearing those kind of words in her voice. When my cousin was satisfied with the begging, he thrusted into her and buried all his dick in her in one thrust. My mom screamed even louder than my cousin's girlfriend, and my paralysis broke for long enough to yell at him to not hurt her. She didn't seem to be hurt fortunately, she kept calling for more. After about an hour I was capable of standing up, but my cousin said I had to stay and watch, and obviously I couldn't disobey him. After another hour or two (it's hard to tell) he told me to go to bed. I've been in bed since last night, and I've stayed in my room all day, I'm dreading the thought of seeing what's become of my mom now. I was semi-prepared for this, but how it happened was beyond my worst fears, other than the fact that my mom appears to be uninjured it was worse than the worst-case-scenario version that I had imagined. anonymous123Jun 18 2021 10:01am Heck. i am so sorry for you and your mother. Worse than the worst-case scenario version?? PpJun 18 2021 12:14pm Yeah, other than that me and my mom didn't get physically hurt I can't think of any way that it could realistically have been worse. The situation in my house has also even more terrible now, I said before I couldn't imagine how my mom's behavior could get any worse but now I realize how stupid that was. When I finally left my room today I came downstairs to find my cousin sitting on a chair with my mom kneeling in front of him with his dick in her mouth, she was making obscene slurping sounds, and they were both naked. I had been trying to delude myself into thinking it might have been just a nightmare last night, even though I knew it definitely wasn't, but seeing this tore me up inside. My cousin saw me and said "your mom isn't any better a c*cksucker than you, I have a lot to teach her, I'll bring in [our older cousin's girlfriend] to show her how it's done. You come have a go now, I want to see who's worse". He pushed my mom's head off him and beckoned for me to come, and I was forced to suck his dick while my mom watched. When he said he was about to cum, my mom grabbed me and yanked me off him so she could put his dick in her mouth instead and swallow his cum, that made my cousin laugh. They stayed naked the rest of the day and spent most of it having very loud sex right there in the living room. My mom literally didn't say a word to me all day, she apparently had nothing on her mind but my cousin's dick and she didn't even seem to know I existed. When my cousin started playfully flirting with my mom I thought about something like this happening, but I told myself I was just being paranoid. I knew he had other girls who behaved like this, but I told myself my mother would never be one of them. Apparently I couldn't have been more wrong. anonymous123Jun 18 2021 7:39pm Busy weekend; been away. Dread to think what has been happening to your mother and yourself. I think you really need outside help. PpJun 20 2021 12:06pm I can't believe how stupid I was when I thought my mom's state last week was as bad as it could get, because now everything is 100x worse. My mom hasn't wore a single item of clothing all weekend, and neither has my cousin. They both sleep in my mom's bed now, and I fall asleep to the sounds of her moans and wake up to the same sounds. They do it on the sofa as well during the day, and he makes me bring him drinks and hold the glass for him so he can drink it with a straw while he's f*cking my mom, I thought I had had humiliating experiences before but this is on another level. It's terrible to see what my mom has become, she's completely obsessed and addicted to him. She doesn't care that I can see them, she seem to be aware that I exist, all she seems to care about is sex with my cousin. She always screams it out when he gives her an orgasm, and that happens at least 10 times a day. When they're not having sex she's sucking him, including while he's eating and showering, and when she can't do that she masturbates, again not caring that I can see. He's ejaculated inside her countless times, and with the amount he cums if she's not pregnant already she will be soon. She's completely under his control, and jumps to obey every command he gives. He even told her to ridicule me today, to her credit she was reluctant. But then he withdrew his dick from her and she panicked and immediately started demeaning me for my size and weakness, small penis, virginity, and other things, all just to make my cousin resume f*cking her. My cousin has talked about moving in permanently, he told me today that my mom is probably the best f*ck he's ever had, since she's one of the very few who can take his entire dick to the base. When I think of what my mom was like the day before my cousin came to stay and compare her to the degenerate creature that she is now it's hard to believe they're the same person. I'm sure it was my cousin's plan all along to turn her into this, that's why he teased and tormented her by holding off on having sex for so long. anonymous123Jun 20 2021 5:27pm Hi. Your own experiences have told you that the situation can get worse by the day, despite your current opinion. For the sake of your mother's total welfare, you need to seek practical assistance for everyone concerned. By that i am including your 10 year old cousin. The situation will get worse with inaction. Another option is to immediately consult a doctor about your cousin's 'condition.' There are understanding people out there. Please act beyond your initial fears PpJun 21 2021 12:58pm There's nowhere I can go for outside help. Especially now they've had sex, if I got any type of law enforcement involved it would mean my mom would get arrested, including child protective services. Even a doctor would be required to report it, as would pretty much anyone else I could seek help from. I know my cousin has been seen by doctors when he was young, and I don't know the details but the rumors in my extended family are that his mom refused to get him any treatment. One thing I can try is to talk to his mom, I can probably visit her in rehab. She's fine with her son being violent toward men and having sex with women/girls, even when he exploits their attraction to him and reduces them to the state that my mom's currently in, but maybe she'll feel differently if it's her own sister. I don't expect it to work, but I'll give it a try. She's gotten worse since yesterday even, she's completely under his spell and seems to think about nothing but him all day. She was asleep on the couch earlier and she was repeatedly saying his name in her sleep. She does whatever he says, no matter how degrading, without question or hesitation. She's even given him her credit card and all her passwords, and he's been buying stuff for himself online and sending me to buy him stuff from shops. I did get to talk to my older cousin today, he brought his girlfriend over to teach my mom how to give him a blowjob. While they were doing that in the living room I went upstairs to talk to him. He said his girlfriend was just like this for about a month after they had sex for the first time, the younger cousin lived with them for a month and they behaved very similarly to how they're behaving now. But apparently he got bored of f*cking her so often and moved out, then started only f*cking her a couple times a week. It seems like that's the best case scenario for me now, but he's been telling me all the time about how my mom feels better than anyone else he's f*cked and he wants to move in with us, I just have to hope he's just trying to torture me. That conversation was cut short when the younger cousin called me downstairs and told me I should learn the things that my mom is learning too. I had to suck him again while the other cousin's girlfriend taught me how to do it "properly". He told me to stick around after that to watch him f*ck both women, saying that I could learn something from that too, "not that you're ever going to use it, and your c*ck is so small you wouldn't be able to do it the way I do anyway". The worst part was seeing my mom watching him and the cousin's girlfriend and masturbating while she waited her turn, for some reason that was worse than actually seeing her have sex with him. I just don't recognize her at all anymore. anonymous123Jun 21 2021 4:43pm Ok. talk to your mother. Do it somewhere else, away from the house and away from him. I know that you know what to say:- the legalities, the practicalities, everyone's mental health. Good luck and stay focused PpJun 21 2021 6:00pm She never leaves the house, she hasn't even worn a single item of clothing since Friday. And she never leaves my cousin either, they sleep in the same bed and she spends most of the day with his dick in her vagina, mouth, or hand. And even in the brief periods when it's not, she is still always in the same room as him, she even goes into the bathroom with him. She never wants to be out of his sight right now, when she woke up from her nap on the couch she ran around the house looking for him, and when she found him coming out of the shower she dropped to her knees and started sucking him. She also wouldn't respond to anything I say even if I could get her alone, she barely knows I exist right now, she has no issue being naked, masturbating, or having sex right in front of me. There's nothing I could say that could get through to her, she wouldn't even hear it. I'm sure if I could get her away from my cousin even briefly then 100% of her focus would be on getting back to him. I'm going to try to talk to his mother tomorrow. anonymous123Jun 21 2021 7:25pm Good move. if she is in some form of rehab, she might have all her faculties and prepared to listen to some sense. wish you every success PpJun 22 2021 2:51am I actually got an appointment to visit my aunt (my cousin's mom) this morning, so I sneaked out before my cousin and my mom woke up. They had fallen asleep on the couch again, and I saw that his flaccid dick was in her mouth, they must have fallen asleep while she was sucking him. I made my way to the rehab and went to talk to my aunt, she's been sober for a couple weeks now and she looks much better than the last time I saw her. I started explaining what her son was doing, and toward the end there were tears in my eyes. While I was talking about how totally under his control my mom is, she started laughing. Apparently she thought it was hilarious that her son had turned her sister in to a depraved sex addict, and she's even proud of her son, saying "that's my boy!" She was delighted to hear what her "snooty" sister had been transformed into. I left the rehab furious with her, it's obvious why my cousin uses his physical strength and sexual abilities in such an exploitative way, his mother has been encouraging it for years. She's already being looked at my child protective services because of her addiction problems, and I hope they don't find out about that as well, it would probably lead to my mom being arrested. When I got home I saw my mom had woken up and I guess my cousin's dick had gotten hard in his sleep because my mom was sitting on it and riding it, bouncing up and down, even though my cousin was still asleep. She didn't notice I was gone, and didn't notice when I came in the door. If I had never come back she probably wouldn't have noticed that either, though my cousin would have. I'm out of ideas, there's nothing at all I can do. I've talked to some more people in my family, and they all agree that my cousin often seduces a new woman and moves into her house for a while, but so far he's always gotten bored of her after a while and moved back out. I just have to hope that's what will happen here. anonymous123Jun 22 2021 7:36am congratulations on meeting his mother and commiserations on the outcome. I too am out of ideas and hope that your prediction comes true, although it might be months before than happens. In the meantime... What do you do, jobwise? PpJun 22 2021 11:18am I don't have a job, I go to college and live with my mom, since it's nearby. I want to get a job and move out, but I don't think my cousin would allow that. I was thinking of going to stay with some other family now, but he specifically said I have to stay in my mom's house, I guess partially because he enjoys torturing me and partially so I can do the cooking and cleaning so my mom can devote all her time to him. If it follows the pattern of how he has dealt with his other women, such as our older cousin's girlfriend, then he'll get bored of having sex with my mom almost exclusively after a while. He'll move out and then only f*ck her a few times a week. The idea that that's the best case scenario is very depressing, my cousin's girlfriend is still absolutely crazy about him and is eager to see him all the time, and I know how humiliating it is for her boyfriend to drop her off at the cousin's house and wait for them to finish, or to have the cousin show up at his door and take his girlfriend up to his bed for a couple hours while he waits downstairs. The idea of that happening with my mom, and me having to endure my cousin coming over a few times a week to have sex with her is pretty terrible, though it's a lot better than what's happening now. The fact that it's what I'm hoping will happen really shows how bad everything is. He keeps saying he wants to move in with my mom permanently though, and he sent me to pick up a bunch of his stuff from his mother's house today. Even worse, today I heard my mom screaming during sex that she wants him to get her pregnant and she wants to have his baby, and I legitimately can't think of anything more horrible than that happening. anonymous123Jun 22 2021 5:05pm i read most of what you said and i feel bad for you. im kinda like your cousin only im not mean like him. im not muscled like him either im actually pretty small for my age, but my penis is almost as big as his and i have alot of sex too, mostly with my mom. i got a big bro and hes jealous of me and im in charge of him but im not cruel to him like your cousin. if you wanna hear about me and my mom go here. http://www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/2650 phraatesJun 23 2021 12:00pm 123: hi again. am wondering what you can do to stand up to your cousin and moving out is one option. Every option will have consequences for you. Having a win against him may be important; to show you are not totally under his control. Waiting for him to 'be bored' could be a long wait. As mentioned earlier, he is going to leave a trail of destruction, affecting the mental health of numerous girls/women, as well as fatherless kids. you need outside assistance as I've stated before. i know all this is easier said than done. PpJun 23 2021 1:45pm I taught my little brother and his friends how to jelq and pump from reddit.com/r/ajelqforyou and now they are turning into hung muscle boys. Even at 11 , now after two years of this, they are almost twice as long flaccid, from 1.5in to 3in, and over twice as long hard from 3.5in to 6.5in. I would bet they both end up over 9 inches hard by 18 and finishing puberty. They have muscle all over, abs, pecs, biceps, ripped veins and bulges. jelqingworksJun 24 2021 2:52am Pp: I am pretty much totally under his control though. I have no source of income and no money, and my cousin controls my mom's bank account and credit cards now. I can't move out without his permission, and if I tried then he would hurt me. There's no-one who would take me in, all my family know it's not a good idea to get on the wrong side of my cousin. I could run off in the middle of the night with no money and nowhere to go and live as a homeless person, but I wouldn't survive that for long. As I've said, I've gotten some assistance and advice and consolation from family, but I can't get anything resembling law enforcement involved as that would mean that my mom and several other women would be arrested. I can't even tell a therapist, if they found out my mom's having sex with him they'd be required to report it, confidentiality doesn't apply in those cases. My only option is to wait and hope he gets bored. Everything you said about him is true, the people in my family have known it for years but there's no way to make him stop. He's already been leaving a trail of destruction for years, he's irrevocably changed the psychology of dozens of women and girls and also injured and traumatized many men, including our older cousin and now me. You're also right about fatherless kids, he hasn't acknowledged any of them but it's almost certain he already has a few. Apparently it's an open secret in his school that the baby one of the teachers recently had is his, and there's gossip in my family about how my uncle and his wife's 9 month old son looks suspiciously like my cousin. I'm just praying that the next fatherless kid he leaves won't be a half brother of mine. I saw him talking to his mother on the phone today and bragging about how much he's f*cking my mom, she could hear every word he said as she was giving him a blowjob at the time but she didn't seem to care. He even said on the call "you might have another grandkid next year". anonymous123Jun 24 2021 7:10am hi. I shudder at your experiences. To be totally under his control is staggering, financial and everything else. if there is a consolation, you are not alone here. Hard to believe that so many people are being silent about all this. That only gives him the license to keep going. What a dilemma. PpJun 24 2021 1:51pm Being so much under his control is obviously terrible, but it's nothing compared to seeing the extent to which my mom is under his control, and in that case there isn't even any coercion involved. This time last month she was a confident, independent, self assured woman, and it took him less than a month to turn her into his obedient little pet. Yesterday evening she displeased him in some way (I'm not sure exactly how) and he punished her by decreeing that there would be no sex for the rest of the day. She was crying and wailing and begging his forgiveness, like it was the end of the world, and she only stopped when he threatened to extend it to two days. She was allowed to masturbate though, and she spent the rest of the day doing that while watching him lift weights, and even while watching me give him blowjobs in her place. He made me give him several, I guess he was used to constant stimulation so he had to settle for me while he was punishing my mom. He controls me through force and threats, but he controls her by exploiting her addiction to him. He's done the same thing to dozens of women and girls, and even after he's done with them I don't think any of them will ever be the same after. The other people in our extended family are silent out of fear, he's capable of beating up anyone in our family of any age, and I've heard he has threatened at least one uncle with going after his wife and daughter. If the family had tried to intervene long ago then maybe it could have been prevented, but now it's too late. He first started showing violent tendencies at least by 6, and probably earlier. He was 6 when he first beat me up, and I know he fought with other older boys, including other teenagers. Maybe if the family had gotten him away from his mother before that he wouldn't have turned into what he is today. Maybe he could have been prevented from becoming sexually active so young, and he wouldn't have been able to hone his sexuality into something capable of doing what it did to my mom. As it is, everyone who knows what he does thinks it's too late to stop him, and are understandably too afraid of him to try. anonymous123Jun 24 2021 4:52pm Someone needs to take practical action. This situation just can't keep continuing. He is only 10 !!!!!!! with many years ahead of him. PpJun 24 2021 6:25pm I want to read more about this but this thread will soon be locked, it's approaching 300 comments. You can continue in a different thread. When you post a comment and it doesn't show up here, go to this thread: http://www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/2815. GalenJun 25 2021 3:47am I wish someone had taken practical action 5 years ago, but now everyone believes it's too late. Everyone's terrified of him, he's sent at least one grown man to the hospital. The one I know about was a man around 40 who confronted him about what he was doing with his teenage daughter. I have an uncle in his mid 30s who used to lead the charge for "doing something about him", he used to constantly yell at my cousin's mother for letting her son behave like he does. He also used to tell people he was going to have words with my cousin directly, but both of the times I saw him with an opportunity to do so he backed down, I'm pretty sure he was just intimidated by seeing his physique up close. That uncle never talks about intervening anymore, I'm not sure what happened, but it might have something to do with the son he had 9 months ago, the one that looks suspiciously like my cousin. If I had a time machine then the first thing I'd do is go back to when my cousin was 4 or 5 and do everything to get him taken away from his mother and placed with someone else who would raise him differently and maybe prevent him from becoming who he is today, though it might have happened anyway. He's caused so much destruction in just the last 3 years, along with an unknowable number of fatherless children, and the truth is that it really is too late to stop him. He's gotten used to a lifestyle of constant sex with practically whoever he wants and using his muscularity to get whatever else he wants through coercion, his extraordinary body allows him to do both these things, and he's not going to give up that lifestyle. anonymous123Jun 25 2021 9:06am I can see how all that you have been saying about the difficulties of any intervention are indeed real difficulties. Today's post tells me that there are MANY people who share your concerns. so you have many allies; many heads to offer a 'best way forward' even though the initial thinking is that 'it is too late to do anything.' Thinking creativity outside this box might require a group approach rather than just discussion with another demoralized individual. Again, easier said than done, however i am trying to assist here . PpJun 25 2021 1:30pm Hope you all buy stock in GME and AMC, at least one share of each, the MOASS is coming. GetRichWithMeJun 26 2021 9:38am There certainly are a lot of people who share my concerns, the entire extended family have been wanting to do something about him for years. Ever since he first started beating up his teenage cousins (including me) at the age of 6. I remember his mother proudly telling some of her siblings how she walked in on him banging his teenage babysitter at the age of 7, and that being met by horror from everyone else. They were all yelling at her that she shouldn't be letting her son do things like that, but she was delighted with him. I've been talking to some of the people in the family and the best idea we've come up with to get him away from my mom is to distract him, to find another woman/girl for him to turn his attention to. I can't do that though, it would be immoral to intentionally bring someone else under his spell. I also don't think it would work, he's always raving about how good my mom is to have sex with, he says it's great that she can take his whole dick and he doesn't have to hold back with her at all like he does with everyone else. My mom is even more devoted to him now, she seems to be obsessed with the idea of being impregnated by him, I think she's under the impression it would tie them together and not let him leave her, though given how he has treated the other women he's impregnated that's not very rational. Every time she has an orgasm now she screams that she wants him to get her pregnant, and she only wants to have vaginal sex. Today my cousin sent me out to buy one of every brand of home pregnancy test I could find, which is a worrying sign. I looked it up and apparently it's possible to detect a pregnancy as early as 5 days after conception, and it's been double that time since they first had sex, so I'm dreading what the results might be. anonymous123Jun 27 2021 8:31am i had the feeling yesterday that you were having a horrible weekend. i agree with your assessment that to provide him with a substitute is immoral. Sad that this was the most creative solution by the group. Unfortunately it is only a matter of time before your mother is pregnant. So sad. Have you managed to avoid his physicality these last two days? PpJun 27 2021 12:48pm Add a comment: Vote Results |
