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Has it ever occured to you that billy corgan is a bald, ugly, wanker. when he sings it sounds like a dying cat, at least kurt had an amazing voice and could actually sing in tune. You say nirvana would have fizzled out, but HELLO smashing pumpkins are doing that for them instead. I also want to point out that jimmy was a heroin addict as well. Billy is a selfish unconsiderate self-centered pretencious c*nt who doesn't deserve ANY praise, and the only reason he is treated with some respect is that he is so ugly that they actually feel sorry for them. It's obvious that you prefer billy and I really feel sorry for you 'cause it will get you nowhere, I'm not saying I think of Kurt as God, in fact I bearly know nirvana, but I know good music when I hear it and Smashing Pumpkins aren't that. I think that this is one of the hardest questions to ask. I think that both bands are so different and unique and great in there own way. It is so hard to compare two such different bands. Nirvana is great and it is so tragic that their career came to a crashing halt. I wish i could hear what nirvana would have developed into. Nirvan was such an innovated and inventive band. smashing pumkins are also an innovative and inventive bad. they are very versitile and creative. they are experimenting with different music styles now. many of their members have left and they are trying to refind themselves. i wish kurt was still alive so he could have made more music. cofusedJul 24 2000 7:22pm "people act like nirvana invented grunge, but they just took it and personified it" - Billy Corgan. oh, and by the way, at least Billy cares enough about his fans not to kill himself when things start getting tough. StUmBeLiNeJul 24 2000 7:22pm nirvana is a legend they made grunge and grunge died when kurt died R.I.P. KURT COBAIN nirvana_48Jul 24 2000 7:22pm ok the pumpkins are a great band ok.and cobain was a great singer but now he is dead and the pumpkins went on to better things.well some of the pumpkins wiil.i think cobain was sometimes over rated. and if kurt were still alive they would be breakling just like the pumpkins are doing pumpkinsvilleJul 24 2000 7:22pm get a f*cking life. if you don't like something, you don't have to diss it, or if you have to, at least say something INTELLIGENT. StUmBeLiNeJul 24 2000 7:22pm know what? now i feel ashamed for admitting to likeing them long ago. i have half a mind to punish myself. billy is almost as pathetic and greedy as courtney love. do u see how they fought over how got credit for hole pooty album? boy was he desperate for publicity. and what was that manson album all about. God i have to puke.... a sick vampire from londonJul 24 2000 7:22pm why the hell are we comparing kurt to billy? its no contest. corgan cant even live up to what nirvana was. i agree with everyone who knows that smashing pumpkins are fading away and selling out. i used to like them, but then with adore, things just got pooty and old. they should have split up a long time ago. kurt was not a God, but he was such a wonderful song writer. And Nirvana, unkie sp, had songs that didnt song the same over and over again. Oh yeah, and i do think billy is an ugly wanker. Vampire from londonJul 24 2000 7:22pm i totaly agree with you NirVaNa ChiCk- kurt is and always will be a legend... NIRVANA RULES FOR EVER!!!!!!! ohh yeah, and sp suck and lunacy@smashing.... i erally feel sorry for you... a little piscesJul 24 2000 7:22pm i totaly agree with you NirVaNa ChiCk- kurt is and always will be a legend... NIRVANA RULES FOR EVER!!!!!!! a shy piscesJul 24 2000 7:22pm Billy Corgan is winning?? what the f*ck is that all about, he sucks, did you hera there last album it totally sucks , no wonder they are splitting up, by the way Smashing have no integrity. NIRVANA IS THE BEST BAND EVER, end of story, goodnight and godbless Perfectdark1Jul 24 2000 7:22pm f*ck ALL OF YOU THAT DARE TO DISS KURT! KURT f*ckING KICKS ASS AND ALWAYS WILL..HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A f*ckING LEGEND. THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPARING WHAT SO EVER WITH CORGAN AND COBAIN..COBAIN CAN/DOES KICK HIS ASS EVERY f*ckING DAY, CORGAN SUCKS ASS AND CANT SING WORTH SHIT..SO f*ck U ALL THAT DISS KURT! ?~67-K.D.C.-94~? R.I.P.!! NirVaNa ChiCkJul 24 2000 7:22pm Pumpkins suck! big time! patchesJul 24 2000 7:22pm billy is not ahead of his time, janes addiction was a big influence for him, it can be heard in his music, and the heavy metal machine is not billy, but Lou Reed, billy is nice and all that, he is in this time he is not doing anything Phenominal that hasn't been done already.. and he will not be remembered hundreds of years from now. he is not original, proof is in music out there before him! he does not move me one centimeter, Kurt did and does, a fine poet he was. poppyJul 24 2000 7:22pm I like both, but I only love one. Smashing Pumpkins win by a long-shot. DUH. ZombyJul 24 2000 7:22pm wow, i see anger here...but i have to say, i think kurt should of won..i mean, billy corgan is cool an'all, but its an act...he pretends to be mad, but he is a genius.....but kurt was too, and his life and acheivments prove how much he was a better artist than billy. by the way 'moi', dave didn't leave nirvana before kurt died...so YOU learn your facts ok? *~cLaIrE~*Jul 24 2000 7:22pm Sorry for submitting that twice!! I re-loaded the page to see if there was anything new, and it re-posted it! Lunacy@smashing-pumpkins.comJul 24 2000 7:22pm come on guys the ONLY reason nirvana are still known was because kurt cobain was a pretty boy. had he not killed himself nirvana wuld have fizzled away and no one would care about them now. no way couold they have ever produced another decent album with all the drugs he was on... moiJul 24 2000 7:22pm ok, has it ever occured to you that kurt cobain is a rough faced ugly wanker to? and when he sings it sound like there's a f*cking grinder in his throat! yes nirvana would have fizzled out and i'm not saying that the smashing pumpkins aren't now, i'm just saying that nirvana are COMPLETELY over rated just becuase kurt cobain was good looking and whatever else people thought of him. kurt was also inconsiderate and it's well known that he wanted more money then the other two which went against everything he preached about so i'm sorry to ruin your little 'godlette' image of cobain, but at least admit that he is a fuss over a infamous drug habbit that got too far... moiJul 24 2000 7:22pm are you thick or something, i said that i wasn't that great a fan of nirvana, and stop making a complete f*cking dick of yourself, i just want to get the message to you that these polls are for people to express their oppinion and you going on how kurt is a pretty boy and how crap nirvana were is just pathetic. you say nirvana couldn't have produced another decent album but dave obviously did well for himself, and i think that if they had stayed together they would have done fine. and have you heard smashing pumpkings new album-what is all that poo about. face it kurts voice might be rough but billy sounds like his vocal chords are completely f*cked. at least nirvana stopped when they were actually popular but the pumpkins are just fading away and soon they will be have beens, nothing to the world. now i am not saying it is bad to like them but just don't act like you know everything, coz you don't and where ever you are and whoever you are, then carry on with your pathetic exsistence, and i'll carry on with mine crip_m2Jul 24 2000 7:22pm crip_m2, you are such a c*nt...i am not f*cking acting like i know everything, i think you'll find that this is my opinion, as you say that's all this poll is about and fine you can disagree with me, because i know that most of the world is hypnotised with all this f*cking media, but nirvana had no f*cking choice when they ended did they? and i think foo fighters bloody rock and i have all there albums, however dave quit the band days before cobain killed himself...bet you didn't know that then huh? so no, you're wrong, nirvana wouldn't have had his song writing talents and they wouldn't have been alright. they'd be stuck trying to replace the best f*cking drummer they'd ever get! but corgan's voice is the most original voice out there which is so much more of an asset then cobain's which can be immitated by anyone who can grunt for long enough...for example silverchair...how much are there voices alike? i have never come accross any singer that sounded remotely like corgan's or had music remotely like him. they are original, every song they have written has a different rhythm to it. with nirvana i can only tell what song it is when it finally get to the c*nting chorus becuase all the riff's are the EXACT same so go f*ck yourself *sshole, have a nice follower life, i hope you enjoy knowing you'll only ever be a copyer of everything around you, people like you will never be an individual... moiJul 24 2000 7:22pm you are such a bimbo, you think that coz you have all foo fighters albums that your like their no.one fan. when i listen to sp billy's voice is enough to make me wretch. why do you think liking the sp's makes you so individual and me liking nirvana not. do you think that you are like their only fan their are millions of people who like them as much as you and more. you have no write saying that because i like nirvana i am a copier and as i have told you many times i don't even like them that much. i know polls are for your own opinion but don't start one being a biased prick. and if you go through life always thinking your superior and higher than everyone else, then you will end up a lonly old nobody. billy's voice is very individual and everyone says thats the key to being a successful band. but face it, it would be nicer to listen to a NICE individual voice. take macy gray her voice is individual but, like billy's, it sounds like a cat dying. may i point out to you that before kurt died the band kept on splitting up and who is to say weither or not dave would have joined again. you say that the foos ROCK but is it just me or do thay 1. have unoriginal voice and 2. many, and i mean many of their songs sound the same. nirvana had every choice of when they ended-what are you on?? they could have carried on without dave if he had quit as there ARE many other drummers who are as good as him. back to the copyer bit-it is spelt copier-you have no write saying that. it would be like saying that just coz i like travis and loads of other people do, that i am a copier. and if thats the case then i have something to tell you. you are a copier. do you really think that you are like sp only fan-wake up girl there are bloody loads. you really have no idea what you are talking about do you?? the way you write about how sp are all that and n nothing shows that you are an arrogant bitch. i have no time to carry on, and don't bother writing back, your stupidity pains me. so carry on with YOUR copier life style and enjoy. coz you only get once chance to do so, you sad excuse for a human being. so f*ck off c*nt, and go suck your dads c*ck, i'm sure thats the only useful thing you will be able to do with your life-bimbo. crip_m2Jul 24 2000 7:22pm i think this point after your little note proves my point. but i would just appreciate it if you stopped mis-quoting me. i never said liking nirvana was unoriginal nor did i say it was really original to like the smashing pumpkins, but i am saying that both of you are listening to the media instead of what you really think. the media made kurt cobain some sort of legend that he wasn't. when he died they made it this big deal only because it was an interesting story. he did nothing special for music and by sticking up for him you're really not thinking for yourself here. and also ok, travis are the most monotonous, mundane group and they are way, way worse then nirvana as far 'sameness' goes. you seriously are way to big on the media, think for yourself for a change mate. the same applies to macy grey...you only like them becuase the critics do. and the thing about nirvana splitting up, what a dense thing of you to say! of course they didn't have a choice! you can't carry on a band like that with the lead singer dead can you? i think not...and the foo fighters songs do not all sound the same, i think you'll find that throughout the evalution of their albums each one has an individuality about it, nirvana doesn't, sorry to break it to you. if it's any consulation kerrang, select, melody maker, metal hammer and about every other type of magazine in the UK agree's with you...i am assuming you're from somewher around here because american's don't use the word 'wanker' and don't know travis yet... moiJul 24 2000 7:22pm i just want to let you know that i do not follow everything the media says. and i have told you so many times that i don't think nirvana are that great neither was kurt. travis are a good group, their music may sound similar but that doesn't top them having good music. and macy gray, i recall saying that she was CRAP, her voice is even worse then billy's-there you go, miss quoting me again-you are so think. i meant nirvana would have carried on fine if kurt was still alive-you prick and have you ever heard of getting a NEW singer in??? okay then they so wouldn't have done as well but all i am saying is that nirvana might have done fine had he not died. magazines may agree with me but that is only due to the readers, ie in votes etc. don't you get it?? people like nirvana because their music is good to them, people like sp because they like that kind of music, i am one of these people who likes all types of music, and by the sound of it you aren't, you couldn't breath if sp broke, youd be a sad lost wreck. do just run a long little girl, good bye. oh yeah i'm not american, i'm not american and i never said i was and i just wanted to let you know that travis is there, and about the word wanker-like i'd know if they say it there. and why if your so against media but read all these magazines that are just about it?? oh yeah and nirvana didn't have the best drummer, metalica do. crip_m2Jul 24 2000 7:22pm lars ulrich?!?!? (or however the hell you spell his name) yeah...mate whatever...now that IS comical...i seem to recall reading very often in all too many magazines, newspapers hell even BBC2's 'the money show' that metallica are sueing napster for this whole internet movement thing...if you havn't seen it i have the copy of what lars said in karrang if you havn't seen it yet...i would be happy to type it out for you when i next get on this web-sie but at the moment i can't be bothered to...the general thing was that they are threatening to so and take people hard drives if there songs were downloaded onto it...yes, you're little special lars butch-boy said that...none of the other members, just him...but musically he's a great drummer huh? (jimmy chamberlain's better in my opinion). ok travis suck. i can't put it any more simply then that. if you can't get that simple phraise through your thick skull then there's no hope. and no i don't recall you saying you didn't like nirvana that much, however i do recall you saying that 'at least kurt has an amazing voice'...so go suck on that little contradiction...and nirvana would not have done alright for god's sakes! how many bands have EVER carried on alright without there lead singer?!?! it is the hardest task! it would have been especially hard for nirvana with this whole 'kurt icon' thing...as the ICON of that generation nirvana couldn't and would never be the same or as good without him...people would rebell, they'd think it's blasphomy. when they played there'd be bloody riots, they wouldn't be able to hack it without kurt, he WAS nirvana. god you're pathetic...sp's are probably going to break up any minute and i'll be fine thank you very much...yeah i think they're the epitome of good music but it's inevitable that they're going to stop soon, they have stuck through such rough times and billy was suicidal at one point too, but he kept at it instead of backing down and now some loser who was too scared to face the world is a 20th century hero...it's not fair...he doesn't deserve it. nirvana doesn't deserve it. magasines are all the same as far as that's concerned and it's not coz of the reader i've read pooloads of articles by the writers for these publications that are all pro-cobain...they're brain washed...also, i never said you were american, i guessed you were from the uk...learn to read...and don't use my lines...run along now little boy... moiJul 24 2000 7:22pm alright, let's get the story straight... billy corgan is an incredible songwriter who i respect with all my heart. however, kurt cobain, with his incredible song writing and talent and strength to not get lost in the sea of replicas, is elavated to the status of a god, from the demi-god rank corgan rests at. i am torn that smashing pumpkins are breaking up, but they are still a great band. kurt cobain would still be a god for not selling out, whether or not he was alive today. while corgan has the same amount/quality of talent, i have my doubts that he had not begun to fit the mold of a rock artist. it's always good to quit while you're ahead, and that's not always giving up. kurt gave up, but nobody's perfect. nobody knows just why everyone will lie if they need to. peace+love+unity to all, in all the world. susaneJul 24 2000 7:22pm how touching...what the hell kinda corny line was that? esterJul 24 2000 7:22pm Well calm down everyone! Incase you have never realised before people can have different opinions. I think Kurt should win though because I don't know who the f*ck the other guy is. Kurt was a very talented person. And Daniel Johns does NOT SOUND LIKE KURT COBAIN! Have you ever actually listened to silverchair why the hell do you think it sounds like Nirvana?? I don't understand how you can think he sound like Kurt. SILVERCHAIR ROCK AnonymousJul 24 2000 7:22pm crip_m2, you are the most ignorant person I've EVER heard in my entire life. Do you know anything about the Pumpkins? First of all, how is Billy all of those things? He is such a generous, warm hearted man. He donates to charities, signs autographgs for his fans, etc. Funny you should mention how much of a "bald, ugly, wanker" he is, considering music was aobut MUSIC, not looks! I have nothing against Nirvana. They are one of my top favorite bands, but I do believe Kurt is overrated. (No offense, people!) Billy Corgan is way ahead of his time. Gish was actually before Nevermind. It's just that Nevermind got more praise, which is why Nirvana is always credited for things that Gish actually started. Billy is a rock God, a heavy metal machine, a wonderful and amazingly talented man. I could go on for hours, but I won't. And Anonymous, you are an idiot. How can you not know who the most influential, best songwriter/singer/guitarist/etc. of the 1990's is? Lunacy@smashing-pumpkins.comJul 24 2000 7:22pm crip_m2, you are the most ignorant person I've EVER heard in my entire life. Do you know anything about the Pumpkins? First of all, how is Billy all of those things? He is such a generous, warm hearted man. He donates to charities, signs autographgs for his fans, etc. Funny you should mention how much of a "bald, ugly, wanker" he is, considering music was aobut MUSIC, not looks! I have nothing against Nirvana. They are one of my top favorite bands, but I do believe Kurt is overrated. (No offense, people!) Billy Corgan is way ahead of his time. Gish was actually before Nevermind. It's just that Nevermind got more praise, which is why Nirvana is always credited for things that Gish actually started. Billy is a rock God, a heavy metal machine, a wonderful and amazingly talented man. I could go on for hours, but I won't. And Anonymous, you are an idiot. How can you not know who the most influential, best songwriter/singer/guitarist/etc. of the 1990's is? Lunacy@smashing-pumpkins.comJul 24 2000 7:22pm ha ha! pumpkins suck! pumpkins suck! ha ha! patchesJul 31 2000 9:48am yeah the pumpkins suck dick!!!!!!!!!!! AnonymousAug 03 2000 4:57am uhhh kurt is dead... i'll give you that nevermind was probably the best album in the 90s... but the smashing pumpkins were around the whole 90s and put out quality albums (Siamese Dream, MCIS are must-haves, adore is excellent)... you people who think their last two albums suck i suggest you get some new ears. Corgan has contributed way more to music and i'm sure he will continue to... and incase you were wondering i'm not a goth and i like a whole variety of "good" music and the most defining band of the 90s has to be SP thanks to Corgan. i hate ignorant mofosAug 08 2000 1:41pm i love Kurtttttttttttttttttttttt :PJan 01 2001 7:29am Kurt "ohh, the life of a rich white guy is sooo hard" Cobain was a burnt out loser who fathered a child with a complete lunatic and then offed himself before people realised that he sucked and stopped buying his albums. (for all of you people still clinging to the idea that Courtney murdered Kurt, get real. She doesn't have the smarts to pull something off like that) If he wouldn't have killed himself, than he would be on "where are they now?" along with Tiffany and the New Kids. Ohh...I'm sorry if I insulted anyone by saying a white guy whining to the three chords that he couldn't even play well isn't good music. I just call it as I see it. hahaha....I just read that someone said that Kurt was "an artist" lol...yeah, sure he is sweetie, just keep telling yourself that. The Other White MeatFeb 22 2001 6:39am ok my gosh billy corgan he is shaved like steph!!!!!!!!! bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz haha blows for you!Mar 09 2001 3:56pm ok i cant beat all those long posts but i vote kurt. So what if nirvana wouldn't have been so famed if Kurt never died, but he did.... hel t y'allMay 22 2001 11:24am Nirvana was good when Kurt was alive. Foo Fighters is what arose from his death, and I think they're great. NeekoJun 12 2001 10:27am hmmm neeko...did u think of all that by yourself??? AnonymousJul 03 2001 9:41am For anyone who put down Billy Corgan in these comments obviously dont know the pumkins much or have never seen Billy in an interview. Hes so wise and so talented way beyond Kurt. All Kurt did was look pretty. 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