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Baton Twirling- Sport or Hobby

Question: What do you think baton twirling is conidered?!
Created by: Little_Twirler at 01:45:03 PM, Wednesday, August 23, 2000 EDT

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I have been twirling for many years and i think that it's a sport as it is competetive like other sports. for years people outside of twirling couldn't decide wether it was a sport or an art, it is a creative sport!!!!

Sammie McGuire @ amadeus Twirl TeamMar 04 2001 9:53pm


A sport. Absolutely!!!

AnonymousJun 12 2001 6:50pm
ok mr smith but I have been twirling for 16 years and now I'm a teacher. Baton twirling is absolutely both a sport and a hobbie. Think of it this way you guys get schlorships for soccer or football well we get them for baton twirling. And as the old saying in twirling goes, "If Baton Twirling Were More Easier, Then More Boys Would Try It." sorry but the lady that ever makes you a sandwich in the kitchen is a FOOL!!

Doralee ColeJul 11 2001 1:28pm
BATON TWIRLING IS A FASCINATING, INCREDIBLE SPORT. JUST WATCHED THE WBTF 2001 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS VIDEO AND I'M CONSTANTLY AMAZED BY THE SKILLS OF THE ATHLETES. HOW DO YOU DO THOSE ROLLS AND POPS AND SPIN AT THE SAME?? KEEP IT UP - I NEVER BORE WATCHING YOUR SPORT AND ONLY WISH WE COULD SEE IT ON TV AS IT'S CERTAINLY ON A PAR WITH FIGURE SKATING.

C JONESNov 09 2001 6:33am
hey guys, whoever says twirling isn't a sport is wrong. I don't twirl, but one of my friends does, and she works her butt off!!! She's really good and I've realized what a whole lot of work baton twirling takes! Don't call something stupid unless you can do it YOURSELF as well as a professional!!! THEN you can call it stupid!! As for you, Mr. Smith, you're just a jerk with no respect for anything, and I don't think you're worth listening to. There are far too many people like you in the world and we don't need any more of you taking up or air. Don't bother these people again!!!

a little birdie come to save the baton twirlersNov 29 2001 10:56am
Baton twirling is so a sport. I would like to see you try to do a double toss illusion spin Mr. Jared Smith. I bet that you don't even know what that means. I have been twirling since I was five, so believe me, I know what I am talking about. I just finished my first year twirling in the DCHS MB so I know how much work it takes. I worked my butt off. And just to let you know, baton is a sport, it is part of the junior olyimpics. So HA!!!!

The Incredible, Inedible SmeeNov 29 2001 10:58am
i just feel bad reading all of these. i mean, its like a sad story: "a bunch of people throw a stick up in the air and call it a sport". oh well. not my business what you do with the little time that is given to you.

sportygirlwholikesswimmingJul 21 2003 10:43pm
to sporty girl who likes swimming - what about javelin throwing then, they throw a pointed stick in the air and yet you call that a sport!!!!! if you think its so sad you try it

tracy trainer (baton twirler)Nov 04 2003 4:47am
my wife's mother just gave her the old baton and photograph that she used when she was 2 1/2 years old. Back then. The gift brought tears to her eyes, laughter to mine! She had won 3 medals and boy was she ever cute in the photo. Anyway, here I sit working in our home office and she is twirling it around, mostly dropping it on the floor and yelling "look at me, I did it! Yikes, I think if anyone is looking for an old baton - we have one!!!!

Giles DupasJan 03 2004 5:11pm
The baton is not for sale but my husband is. There must be someone somewhere that will give an almost 40 year old some refresher lessons. In fact, I am going to teach my 2 1/2 year old everything I learned back then. Did you notice that I won 3 medals back then? I am not crazy simply a fan of the SPORT.

Mrs. DupasJan 03 2004 5:19pm
you are NOT getting lucky tonight

mrs. ex-dupasJan 03 2004 8:28pm
Baton twirling is definitely a sport. No mother would sit through hours of "through the legs now" if it weren't so. Futhermore, the sale of husbands married to ex baton twirlers is fast becoming an industry to take note of.

the ex-Mrs. Dupa's MotherJan 05 2004 6:35pm
I have only been twirling for about 4-5 montes but to do competition baton it takes alot of hard work. I twirl almost every day of the week. I work by butt off! I get yelled at for not having a free hand or not a stight leg or being of pattern. And MR. Smith if u think baton is so easy and so stupid lets see u even try the easest trik ever a figur 8! I MOST DEFENTLY THINK BATON IS A SPORT, I ALSO DO DANCE AND TUMBLING AND IF U DON'T THINK THERE SPOTS THEN HITCH A RIDE ON THE FAST LANE CUS U SURE GOT THAT QUESTION WRONG! just today i just got home from dance/baton/ twirling and i had twirling last and my wrist and fingers and neck were red from the baton roling on them. and if baton were easy it would be called fot ball. thats an old baton saying. o and tonight one of my friends broke her nose in baton so lets see u say baton isn't a sport!

twirler/dancer/tumbler~ CATJan 08 2004 7:40pm
baton is a sport and takes lots of work and i work my butt of for that sport!!!!!!!!!

baton not a sport ya rightJan 08 2004 7:41pm
You are just being rude now Mr Dupas. You must have alot of anger in your life to write such miserable things. You have crossed the line of being funny and I think you are tasteless. I hope you find happiness and can begin living a full life where you can be accepting of others and non-judgemental. I pity your poor wife.

AnonymousMar 03 2004 11:23am
Okay so lighten up a little here. I think that anything that someone pours their hearts and effort into has worth. I remember playing with a baton when I was a wee chick and I had so much fun. I would imagine myself being so good at it. I never did get good at it but I could do an 8. Hey Mrs. Dupas bring your baton over to my place this summer and we'll let it fly, FOR FUN. Isn't that what it's all about. If you can do it, having fun and your trying...way to be. You go girls!!

another Dupas!!Mar 09 2004 9:25am
baton twirling is brill but it takes a lot of hard work some ppl hu say that it is not a sport just ppl throwin sticks in the air dont have any idea of what baton twirlin is it means so much trainin n 2 ppl hu fink swimmin or football is hard work u try doin baton twirlin 4 all the hours you train and the competitions unless u do baton twirlin dont rite what u dnt have any idea of what u r tlkin about.baton twirling will always b the best sport AROUND.

a baton twirlerApr 08 2004 9:48am
Baton Twirling is the best sport in the world so many athletes put their heart and souls in to the hours of training so when they go to the massive competitions they have a chance of winning.for the people who don't do baton twirling dont you dare go passing coments about what u dont have the slightest idea about. You think Baton Twirling is just throwing sticks in the you r wrong it takes hours of training YOU TRY IT SUM DAY THEN TELL ME IF ITS JUST THROWING STICKS IN THE AIR!

ashleigh (a baton twiler)Apr 08 2004 9:56am
i have been a baton twirler 8 years i have loved every min of it . i have got my own trainer and me and my sister do it together me and my sister got ash and sallly my cuzin and they love it to so all the peepz out i think u shud read the comments on this from all the baton twirlers not ur so called stick throwers so listen here rite it is a sport and if u dont argee ask all the peepz out there from all over the world and u will feel bumped k got that......

sophie gascoigne (a baton twirler)Apr 08 2004 2:58pm
it is a sport n always wil b end 4 all those people who said its a waste of time wot u doin on this site ritin its crap and just waitin y r u on er wastin ur time on a so called crap hobbie its a sport and hobbie alwayz n forever(baton twirling is the best sport so dnt dis it hello u aint tryed it so dnt bother passin comments wen u just think its throwin sticks in the air)

ashleigh p n sophie gApr 08 2004 3:02pm
hiya to all the nice peepz out there and hu think its a sport i have being doin it for 8 years now and i love it hope u do to im goin to edinbury soon to do the BRITISH OPEN and i cant wait i have i prvate trainer and im doin my dance to al that jazz i love it hope to se u there if ur goin but to all the new comers stick to it cuz its great and u can go all around the world for the big comp this year it in japan and sweeden cya

sophie gascoigneApr 08 2004 3:07pm
For all the peeps that don?t think it?s a sport Here is a thought Baton twirling is at the top So sit down and drink ur pop Cuz its at the top Its not throwing sticks It?s all about tricks So listen here Cuz we?re here to tell u Baton twirling is the best sport around It may sound crazy So don?t be lazy Twirl that baton and have a laugh But don?t for get there?s work to do So pick up a baton and go for it We did and look where we r now

ashleigh p n sophie g (netherhall gals )thanks tracey from sophApr 08 2004 3:22pm
I wud like to say thanks a bunch to my trainer Tracey and thanks a lot to ali and kip but thanks to mon our troupe leader I love it so does the other girls in our team its the best sport around them people don?t even no wot its about my old m8 told me to leave but I loved it I went there instead of out with my m8 and I?m not bothered if my m8s don?t like it cuz I do that?s it. Its jus like lads playing footie or girl?s doing dancing but baton twirling is not all about throwing stick in the air its about the tricks u do with the baton and the way u do It. i wud just like to say thanks AGAIN to tracey ur te best trainer ever i no im not the best baton twirler around but i love it and i cant wait till our comps in edinbury thanks again to ali and kip and mon baton twirling is the BEST

sophie gascoigne trainered by tracey netherhall twirlerApr 09 2004 5:40am
I wud like to say thanks a bunch to my trainer Tracey and thanks a lot to ali and kip but thanks to mon our troupe leader I love it so does the other girls in our team its the best sport around them people don?t even no wot its about my old m8 told me to leave but I loved it I went there instead of out with my m8 and I?m not bothered if my m8s don?t like it cuz I do that?s it. Its jus like lads playing footie or girl?s doing dancing but baton twirling is not all about throwing stick in the air its about the tricks u do with the baton and the way u do It. i wud just like to say thanks AGAIN to tracey ur te best trainer ever i no im not the best baton twirler around but i love it and i cant wait till our comps in edinbury thanks again to ali and kip and mon baton twirling is the BEST

sophie gascoigne trainered by tracey netherhall twirlerApr 09 2004 5:40am
hiya 2 all the netherhall twirlers. if people dnt think baton twirlin is any gd then they need 2 get a life bcuz it is gr8.it is not just throwin a stick in the air its about gettin a hobbie and enjoyin a sport and actually achievein summit which they enjoy so baton twirlin is the best. hi sophie,ashleigh n emma and every 1 at netherhall twirling u all did gr8 at comps n keep it up

sally .h.May 04 2004 7:52am
I'm with you "you know who" on this one. Girls, girls, I quit reading the comments way back when. Your "short hand" is painful to read. Keep on twirling though, it's still a sport! Just please, get with the English here, it really does make you sound ... _________ (you fill in the blank). Not a good look for talented women. Show "You know who" who's ___________ (fill in the bland again)!

another Dupas!!May 04 2004 10:02am
At the end of the day baton twirlers put so much time and effort in to something they enjoy and they achieve in it so to all the people that call it throwing a stick up in the air its not its about having fun and making new friends and workin as a team 2gether.

a baton twirlerMay 11 2004 8:17am
Hi Sophie, i love twirling, but don't feel there is any place for your bad language!

someone who knows you !May 17 2004 9:54am
Hi Sophie, i love twirling, but don't feel there is any place for your bad language!

someone who knows you !May 17 2004 9:57am
Baton twirling is a sport, it involves gymnastics and dance, it has european and world championships, we compete in individuals, pairs and teams, people that comment badly about it, probably can't do it,or just plain ignorant, before being rude about it go to a competition see what is actually involved, then comment!it isn't someone just twirling a baton.

fed up with boring peopleMay 17 2004 10:03am
Sophie Gascoigne, you like your trainer Tracey, would she like you using obscene language, swearing doesn't make your argument any more convincing,what the other girl said about making a sandwich, was also pathetic, feel sorry for her sad life, but don't use that language.

someone who knows youMay 17 2004 10:09am
hiya i no hu put that but im sorry for my languagebut i get pure mad when peepz put stuff like that

sophieMay 20 2004 1:21am
hiya i no hu put that but im sorry for my languagebut i get pure mad when peepz put stuff like that

sophieMay 20 2004 1:21am
hiya i no hu put that but im sorry for my languagebut i get pure mad when peepz put stuff like that

sophieMay 20 2004 1:21am
hiya i no hu put that but im sorry for my languagebut i get pure mad when peepz put stuff like that

sophieMay 20 2004 1:21am
hiya i no hu put that but im sorry for my languagebut i get pure mad when peepz put stuff like that

sophieMay 20 2004 1:22am
abbie underwood is fine

tom james belend off hamiltonMay 20 2004 2:24am
abbie underwood is fine

tom james belend off hamiltonMay 20 2004 2:24am
victoria jhonson thinks she is good she fought she would get 1st in all off her dances but cathy is the best and she beat her in most off her dancesp.s she is fine

from allison jhonsonMay 20 2004 2:27am
victoria jhonson thinks she is good she fought she would get 1st in all off her dances but cathy is the best and she beat her in most off her dancesp.s she is fine

from allison jhonsonMay 20 2004 2:27am
victoria jhonson thinks she is good she fought she would get 1st in all off her dances but cathy is the best and she beat her in most off her dancesp.s she is fine

from allison jhonsonMay 20 2004 2:27am
alison jhonson, learn to spell, then get your facts right, lisa ingram won 2 baton, victoria won poise and solo!!!! kathy won fancy and dance, so before slagging people off, get your facts right.

even more fed upMay 20 2004 6:56am
alison jhonson, learn to spell, then get your facts right, lisa ingram won 2 baton, victoria won poise and solo!!!! kathy won fancy and dance, so before slagging people off, get your facts right.

even more fed upMay 20 2004 6:57am
Victoria Johnson is the best twirler in England and one that you should be inspiring to twirl like. Less of the nastiness and a bit more maturity and respect!!!!!!

kelly OgdenMay 21 2004 7:10am
VICKY IS DA BEST

??May 30 2004 8:40am
i came 1st at british open for the first time i cud not belivie it i am so happy thank you tracey clark youare the best trainer out i love you and hope it goes well.

sophie gascoigneJun 09 2004 10:21am
hya everyone well done to every 1 at da british open hope u all ad a great time i did lol !! c u all soon

emma gascoigneJun 09 2004 10:25am
Well done Sophie you performed brilliant, Emma you did too, you deserved better scores than you got,loved your pairs, Well done to Kelly Ogden your routine was fantastic, your scores were not what you or your routine deserved, Justine Ogden congratulations you were BRILL, loved your routine!!Well done Megan Hensman you looked lovely, mind you always do,Well done Laurie Frearson, you did yourself proud,Congratulations to Kirsty Kiprianou, sorry not sure of the spelling,Well done Tracey Mckenna, sorry about your first day scores, judges must have been watching something different to everyone else, Congratulations to Helen Clifford what a fantastic final!!!!! + anyone else who performed in Edinburgh, British Open.

i went tooJun 10 2004 7:12am
hya hu is i went too plz tell me have u got msn

emma gascoigneJun 11 2004 3:55am
well done helen u were brill u deserved to win but every one done really well jos troupe was BRILL well done to all the girls u were great as n e one got msn

emma gascoigneJun 11 2004 3:56am
i'm someone that just loves baton twirling emma,thought tracey and leanne coleman did a good job,love edinburgh anyway

i went tooJun 11 2004 6:39am
hiya every one i wil see every that go's camp thank u mummy nr love u all s

saop[hieJun 15 2004 4:23am
oshi

AnonymousJun 15 2004 4:25am
wot is i went too s real name

emma gascoigneJun 15 2004 9:36am
wot is i went too s real name

emma gascoigneJun 15 2004 9:36am
I am very dissapointed to find Baton Twirlers taking part in the trash being written on this site. Please remember that many young people, both male and female participate in this difficult sport and that they should be protected from the uneducated views and vile language of a minority group who find entertainment at the expence of youngsters, many of whom are excelling in their sport and education whilst holding down part time employment in order to finance their training, equipment, travel and competitions. There are many excellent and reputable websites for Baton Twirlers to post greetings, supply feedback on training and or competitions and ask advice from coaches. Please use them and keep our young people safe. Personal attacks on vulnerable youngsters are not funny nor are they clever and I would hope that the people monitoring this site will show some responsibility and remove these comments from these pages.

Concerned Coach and ParentJun 16 2004 12:30am
www.sfbt.org.uk www.nbta.org.uk Check these websites out to post constructive and positive messages on Baton Twirling. www.bbtsa.com for info

Coach and JudgeJun 16 2004 2:35am
I feel that the negative comments around baton twirling are totally unfounded. I have been involved in twiring 17 years many as an student and coach, and Ive not turned out too bad high powered job.... Friends all over the world, it has tought me alot in life and I am thankful for that. I would not have known my closes friends Sally,Kelly,& Justine Ogden if it was not for twirling. I consider baton twirling a creative sport. Please dont make jugements until you have tried it for your selves. There are many fantastic twirliers with in the UK and to pressume one twirlier considers herself the best is wrong, everyone has special qualities in different areas. I personally know all the people commented on in the Uk on this forum and the personal comments are all unfounded........

Ann FeltonJun 16 2004 1:54pm
sure it is....do you people not realize that you look bloody retarded? Baton Twirling an art..........hehehehehehehe

Equal Opportunity HaterJun 17 2004 8:46am
you know what? i think baton twirling isnt considered a sport or a hobby, i think its considered a waste of time and everyone elses.i bet all you dumb girls are going to get really pissed and start crying about how im making fun of it, and i dont really care.instead of doing dumb poo like that, you should be in the kitchen making me a sandwich.

Jared SmithJun 17 2004 8:46am
Well Mrs. twirler/dancer/tumbler~CAT, I think that if you spent more time learning how to spell and forget the twirlin/dancin/tumblin that you would be much farther ahead. And speaking of heads, whats with your friend who broke her nose??? Obviously she is doing it wrong! Maybe as you called it "fot ball" might be a step in the right direction for her! At least the item is designed by a man to be caught instead of a BATON that can potentially take the eye out of some young girl, (hopefully there are no boys actually doing this)!!! And further more, why would someone want to partake in lessons where the coach is screeming at their students because they don't have a stight leg, (whatever that is), or out of pattern??? Sounds to me that there is enough violence in sport without dragging "BATON" into the arena. The next thing well see is angry BATON MOMS killing the coaches because they don't give Suzy enough time on the Cheerleading squad! YIKES!!!

AnonymousJun 17 2004 8:48am
Ok, so I guess I owe my dearest an apology. Sorry babe! but just so you know, whoever answers her request for refresher lessons, make sure they wear EYE WEAR!

Mr. DupasJun 17 2004 8:52am
Well Mrs. twirler/dancer/tumbler~CAT, I think that if you spent more time learning how to spell and forget the twirlin/dancin/tumblin that you would be much farther ahead. And speaking of heads, whats with your friend who broke her nose??? Obviously she is doing it wrong! Maybe as you called it "fot ball" might be a step in the right direction for her! At least the item is designed by a man to be caught instead of a BATON that can potentially take the eye out of some young girl, (hopefully there are no boys actually doing this)!!! And further more, why would someone want to partake in lessons where the coach is screeming at their students because they don't have a stight leg, (whatever that is), or out of pattern??? Sounds to me that there is enough violence in sport without dragging "BATON" into the arena. The next thing well see is angry BATON MOMS killing the coaches because they don't give Suzy enough time on the Cheerleading squad! YIKES!!!

Mr. DupasJun 17 2004 8:52am
Well Mrs. twirler/dancer/tumbler~CAT, I think that if you spent more time learning how to spell and forget the twirlin/dancin/tumblin that you would be much farther ahead. And speaking of heads, whats with your friend who broke her nose??? Obviously she is doing it wrong! Maybe as you called it "fot ball" might be a step in the right direction for her! At least the item is designed by a man to be caught instead of a BATON that can potentially take the eye out of some young girl, (hopefully there are no boys actually doing this)!!! And further more, why would someone want to partake in lessons where the coach is screeming at their students because they don't have a stight leg, (whatever that is), or out of pattern??? Sounds to me that there is enough violence in sport without dragging "BATON" into the arena. The next thing well see is angry BATON MOMS killing the coaches because they don't give Suzy enough time on the Cheerleading squad! YIKES!!!

Mr. DupasJun 17 2004 8:52am
Dear Anonymous, Rude? Anger? This is an opionion poll. If you don't want to see others opinions, then stay out of the kitchen honey! Anger is what the BATON instructors have if they are yelling at their students. It is also what the parents of those kids would have if they only knew the stress that the world of BATON was putting on their kids! As far as my wife, I love and appreciate her everyday of our lives together. Never once have I berated her for poor positioning or stance! She also treats me the like, only occasionally beating me for not making the bed.

Mr. DupasJun 17 2004 8:52am
Yikes, This baton twirlin is really getting rowdy, & vulgar too! I guess there are 2 kinds of "twirlers", those that can't spell and those that can't think before they spell! And really, who makes more cash? Football, hockey and basketball players, or "twirlers"? Point made! Better start learning to spell or you'll all be washing dishes when the arm is too sore to throw "sticks in the air! Go girls, go girls, go girls, oh boy!

Mr. DupasJun 17 2004 8:52am
jarad smith listen here yer we not dumb and u think our sport is gay thats gay wot u put go make a sandwich f**k off go make one ur self u gay tw*t

sophie gascoigne baton twirlerJun 17 2004 8:53am
What do all Baton Twirlers have in common? They can't spell! So stop "throwin" and "twirlin" and get your butts back in school,,,, eh? Maybe its a sport, but it will ruin the world if you can't spell when you get older. Too much "twirlin" and not enough "learnin" makes Jane a dumb girl!

You know who.............................Jun 17 2004 8:54am
soz i think batton twirling is crap and that its just frowing sticks in the air like sum over geeza sed

tom james Queer of hamilton estateJun 17 2004 8:55am
can the Anonymous person who commented about spelling, read what they have put themselves? SCREEMING !!!! is that not screaming?

don't criticise others when one cannot spell yourself!Jun 17 2004 8:55am
wuts the point? All u do is twirl some sticks.

happybutsadgrlJun 17 2004 8:56am
fukin bastard bitchin slag hoe bolax twat c*nt homo poo bitch fuk u hoe kelly ogden

sgJun 17 2004 8:56am
A big thank you to the host of this site. Your removal of these comments is very welcome

ann/ concerned Coach and ParentJun 17 2004 11:59am
vicky johnson is 1 of the best twirlers in england along with kathy + tracy + helen, well how long is the list. like kelly said every1 has there own qualites when it comes 2 twirling + is good in there own ways!!! i class twirling as my life + every1 i twirl with as close friends i dont understand why peeps think they have 2 kick others down cause its not big!! + i especially would like to know why anybody would want 2 say what they did about kelly ogden, she is 1 of the girls that i class as a close friend within twirling + she is 1 of the best + it hurt 2 read what some spiteful person wrote about her. there is absalutely no need 4 nastiness as such as that!! + who ever wrote it should not be aloud in the association!! kelly is one of the nicest people i know, with a great heart + she is a great twirler, so who ever wrote that message should look at them selves cause i wouldnt want 2 know you!!

lisa ingramJun 18 2004 12:31am
I would like to thank the host of this site, for removing the vile, obscene things that were said about my daughter Kelly,who ever wrote these dreadful things, should not be a part of any sporting organisation,i would be very grateful, if who ever wrote it, could find it in their heart to say sorry?

Kelly's mum, SallyJun 18 2004 7:35am
Well said Sally, Kelly is a wonderful young lady.

KIMJun 18 2004 12:48pm
I find it very sad that people who obviously do not even know Kelly would put such things as they did. If they did know her they would soon realise how wrong they were. Well done to eveyone involved in the British Open!

Laurie FrearsonJun 20 2004 12:12pm
So where are all the young ladies comments now. Plenty of bad things to say about other dedicated professional athletes but not many constructive well educated comments now. Sadly all your bad behaviour and negative comments has now been sent to the BBTSA board. Think hard in the future about the things you say, whether you are trying to promote this wonderful sport of ours or wishing to add comments about each other, when you do this remember the athletes oath. You promise to abide to this each time you compete at Nationals, Selections, British Open. It is something you should remember everytime you wish to talk, write or perform. Lets show respect for one another, lets learn to appreciate every performance, as we all know that not only have you all put in a tremendous amount of hard work to perfect your programmes but just the huge amount of courage it takes to go on the floor and let all eyes watch you. Of course baton twirling is a sport and also a hobbie. It takes over everything but only for the good, how else can you meet people from not only all over the country but also around the world. It's sad that this page has been used for some very negative comments about certain athletes who are not only wonderful people but also fantastic twirlers. They should be admired, followed and looked up to. So get your tpying fingers on and lets see some wonderful comments about the baton twrilers in this country. Lastly good luck to all the athletes Europe Wide in the Eurpean Championships but a special good luck to all the British athletes I'm proud to watch you and support you all.

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hgjghjxsjgJun 23 2004 5:24am
We would like to wish Good Luck to our British athletes going to Europeans and Worlds,Especially Lisa Ingram !!! go "Fighter", don't play "dirty", be "Beautiful".

The Oggies x x xJun 23 2004 8:46am
well said

sophie gascoigneJun 29 2004 6:04am
hope everyone is training hard for camp, i'm looking forward to it,it will be lovely watching the teams,maces and duo's, hope you are all going to have a go!!

i went tooJul 04 2004 1:22pm
Congratulations to all the athletes that took part in the Eurpean Championships. You did England Proud!!!!!!!

Kelly OgdenJul 13 2004 8:23am
Well Done all England representatives performed at Europe. You did brilliantly!!!!!! xxxxxx

Laurie Frearson xxJul 14 2004 4:29am
Well Done to all the Scottish Athletes too, you all did brilliant!!!!

i went tooJul 14 2004 10:38am
well done to laurie frearson! u did brilliant!!!!!!!

Stuart olivares x x (stu@) (stuggart) haJul 21 2004 3:12am
? for what?

?Jul 21 2004 12:36pm
well dun sophie n laurie!! hiya!!

ermmmm................ find out urself!!Jul 29 2004 2:06am
I now know, you gave yourself away

AnonymousJul 29 2004 7:55am
hya chicken

beJul 30 2004 12:46pm
how did i gve myself away??!!??

................Aug 01 2004 7:43am
Hows training for camp going? i'm really looking forward to camp,lovev teams, shame Military has gone, loved it

AnonymousAug 03 2004 6:53am
hiya every onei acant wait for camp i think im going in level 10 this year i hope to see all my buddies like megan and all hampden park (im not sure if that is how u spell it)

from sophieAug 05 2004 3:57am
Any Netherhall twirlers going Camp?

ex NetherhallAug 05 2004 7:56am
yes im going camp who is ex netherhall

sophie gascoigneAug 11 2004 7:43am
hi im not very happy about the people slagging of baton twirling i have been a jugde now for about 25 years and for me to see that people are slagging it of like no body cares i care and all of the people that take part in baton twirling care im not bothered if u dont do baton twirling but i think that the people slagging it of should come and see all the people that take part i noticed a couple of people at the british opening 2004. i thought ii wud say well done to emma and sophie gascioigne and kirsty (sorry if that is not hoe u spell) it and the oggies well done justien (sorry if that is not hoe u spell) please take very delte in what i said thank you

a very important judgeAug 11 2004 7:59am
hya hus goin camp ????????

kezro twirlersAug 14 2004 8:15am
who's the judge then, don't know any that have judged for 25 years.

DaniiAug 25 2004 7:49am
thats because it was Sophie,

AnonymousAug 25 2004 7:53am
didn't think it was a judge because they'd know that it was the british OPEN not the british OPENING, also they would know how to use punctuation in sentences and wouldn't use slang words on a kids website!!

DaniiAug 27 2004 1:55am
I think this website is digusting! You all need to get on to make this sport to be reconised. I can't belive the ammount of swaring by young athlete's! If your perents saw this I wonder whta they would say, I'm sure most of them would be very un-happy! Come on your children there's know need to sware and get out of hand on a web-site where your surposed to be chatting about stuff usfull!! I would hope this stop as it is putting a bad repretation on Baton Twirling!! Thank You

JudgeAug 27 2004 4:27am
Who are kezroz twirlers?? Are they an NBTA group moving to BBTSA. If so what region are they in? Where are they based because there's no twirling group near me and im intrested in twirling

?Aug 27 2004 4:47am
Who are kezroz twirlers?? Are they an NBTA group moving to BBTSA. If so what region are they in? Where are they based because there's no twirling group near me and im intrested in twirling

?Aug 27 2004 5:06am
sophie, learn to spell, then try again to pretend your a judge

AnonymousAug 27 2004 6:49am
wot i dnt say dat

AnonymousAug 27 2004 7:43am
your email address!!!

AnonymousAug 27 2004 8:32am
your email address!!!

AnonymousAug 27 2004 8:35am
it wasnt me tho

AnonymousAug 27 2004 8:39am
Hi, I think you need to give other people respect and then they would learn to like you. There's no need to shout i.e capital letters at each other if you don't agree don't say anything at all! I have been on many site's like this and they don't act as childish as you lot, yes the don't agree but they don't make a big fuss about it like you lot do. I think you all need to grow up and don't use bad words to make you sound like your old, it isn't big and it ins't clever. All of these post are being sent to the BBTSA board

AnonymousAug 27 2004 8:46am
Kezro twirlers? Never heard of them what country are you from?

HeatherAug 27 2004 9:53am
their not from the US must be from England

CarlyAug 27 2004 9:55am
Any off u Guys goin to Twirlmania 2005 I'm competing in Solo and 2 Baton maybe we could meet

CarlyAug 27 2004 9:57am
Any off u Guys goin to Twirlmania 2005 I'm competing in Solo and 2 Baton maybe we could meet

CarlyAug 27 2004 9:58am
The way u guys talk on here is terrible.Sophie if u was in my team the coach would have thrown you off the team for talking the way you do. Your coach must have a lotta patience, Mine would be on the other side of the boardwalk to me if they saw me acting like u

CarlyAug 27 2004 10:05am
Well Said Carly!!!

AnonymousAug 27 2004 10:17am
Well Said Carly!!!

AnonymousAug 27 2004 10:20am
U guys from the US then??

MAug 28 2004 2:11am
yo G

mAug 28 2004 2:35am
yo G

mAug 28 2004 2:36am
Hello megan, how r u?

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:37am
YO G

MOAug 28 2004 2:37am
Hello megan, how r u?

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:37am
i is fine lol an u?

mAug 28 2004 2:37am
i is fine lol an u?

mAug 28 2004 2:38am
Hello megan, how r u?

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:39am
any1 hav msn and want to tlk on that give us ya email addy and we can tlk

AnonymousAug 28 2004 2:40am
i am v well thanku, i also hope that everyone else reading this is as fit as a fiddle

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:40am
i am v well thanku, i also hope that everyone else reading this is as fit as a fiddle

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:41am
YO G HOWS YA HANGIN??? HOWS YA LIFE?? LOL

mogmisterAug 28 2004 2:41am
lol G

AnonymousAug 28 2004 2:42am
i am v well thanku, i also hope that everyone else reading this is as fit as a fiddle

**Grace**Aug 28 2004 2:42am
who's anonymous? tell us ure name

**grace**Aug 28 2004 2:43am
my life is very grand, im hanging v well

*g*Aug 28 2004 2:44am
Carly are u carly patterson?? i think amzing at gymnastics btw!!!!!

twirling_star**Aug 28 2004 2:44am
my life is very grand, im hanging v well

*g*Aug 28 2004 2:45am
gd g!! ur banging lol

oppsAug 28 2004 2:45am
my life is very grand, im hanging v well

*g*Aug 28 2004 2:46am
yo annyomus girl hu is ya

AnonymousAug 28 2004 2:46am
i am an english twirler, who is loves twirling, and dislikes unsportmanlike behaviour

AnonymousAug 28 2004 6:42am
I totally agree with i dont like unsportmanlike behavior!

AnonymousAug 29 2004 1:41am
Kezro used to be Netherhal so ive heard

ex nethAug 29 2004 6:09am
um naughty naughty,wonder who that is again

AnonymousAug 29 2004 6:47am
kezro twirlers are a break away troupe

AnonymousAug 29 2004 1:58pm
ooo so there reigon 10???

AnonymousAug 31 2004 2:45am
are kezro twirlers competeing at hopton???

AnonymousAug 31 2004 4:55am
Whos gonna train Kezro Twirlers??

AnonymousAug 31 2004 4:59am
yeah, region ten,

AnonymousAug 31 2004 6:58am
Who do u think will win Jnr Mace at Hopton this year

anneAug 31 2004 1:15pm
who do u think will win senior mace

AnonymousAug 31 2004 11:12pm
Probably Lisa Rowland for Snr Mace she is awsome, and Megan Hensman for Jnr she's already won it twice. There both in the same club.

goldieSep 01 2004 2:01am
ye right never heard off them

anonSep 01 2004 5:27am
i wonder who put there names????

AnonymousSep 01 2004 7:18am
What about Kelly Ogden, shes won it the last 2 years!!! have you also forgotton Victoria Johnson, now there AWESOME !!!!

AnonymousSep 01 2004 7:19am
I didint realise Victoria Did mace

AnonymousSep 01 2004 7:49am
we will have to wait and see. Won't be long now hope you are all training hard

goldieSep 01 2004 8:07am
jnr mace last year they were split into jnr1 and jnr2

megan hSep 01 2004 10:26am
YEAH WHO PUT LISA ROWLAND IM PUTTING MY MONEY ON KELLY SHE IS FAB + LIKE SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY SAID HAS WON THE LAST 2 YEARS VICKY DOES DO MACE BUT HASNT COMETED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT SHE IS COMPETEING THIS YEAR SO WITH ALISON BARSTON AS WELL IT WILL BE A GOOD COMPETITION!!!

ANONYMOUSSep 02 2004 3:49am
how do you know vicky is doin this year

AnonymousSep 02 2004 5:12am
Without the drop Lisa would have been dam close to winning last year

NRSep 02 2004 5:15am
no i don't think so, scores said different

AnonymousSep 02 2004 7:47am
Who you think will win junior mace at hopton this year????????

007Sep 02 2004 8:49am
I have read this site twice now (twice too often) and I am absolutely disgusted and infuriated by the disgraceful comments that have been written by so called athletes. The BBTSA has spent years trying to have baton twirling recognised as a sport and your childish slanderous comments are destroying all of the hardwork. How you can call yourselves athletes is beyond me. I know most of you who have added entries to this website and I cannot believe that your parents find this acceptable behaviour. There are some elite athletes who represent their clubs,countries and association and if you put as much effort into training rather than making pitiful remarks on this website then maybe, just maybe you could dream of ever being as good as them.

A very concerned coach and judgeSep 02 2004 11:55pm
Maybe its because Baton twirlin sucks!!! Try coaching a sport that means something and stop sreaming at kids, eh?

Mr. DupasSep 03 2004 2:09am
Maybe its because Baton twirlin sucks!!! Try coaching a sport that means something and stop sreaming at kids, eh?

Mr. DupasSep 03 2004 2:09am
I would suggest that if the concerened coach knows these athletes that are leaving the slanderous messages that she gets in touch with their club, clubs and have their coaches sort them out. I found this site by accident and was looking forward to reading the comments. I suggest Jealousy is behind most of the comments. as for Mr Dupas he should grow up and get a life, He is probably the sort of guy that surfs the net looking for dodgy porn sites. Go elsewere For your kicks.

dan dareSep 03 2004 4:32am
If you knw who these people are why not name and shame them I for one would like to know who is talkin about my daughter and her team mates

concerned parentSep 03 2004 4:34am
Don't knw about MR Dupas more like mr sadAss

AnonymousSep 03 2004 4:35am
to the concerned parent, I understand exactly how you feel, but believe me, what is on here now is nothing to the terrible vile abuse about my daughter

very concerned motherSep 03 2004 7:01am
im not going to come and on this web site anymore i am sick of coming on here + having to read all of these bad comments about the sport i love + its athletes!i think it is terrible!!! after all of the hard work some athletes put in and then others come on sites like this + just kick the sport + others down i just cant believe it!

professional athlete (lisa)Sep 03 2004 7:14am
sorry but just read through this site, can't find anything slanderous???? they were removed

AnonymousSep 03 2004 7:39am
I agree that everything was removed but what i havr heard from this site was terrible. It's ok to chat about camp an stuff but it's not right to leave affencive comments about other people! If you cant say anything nice dont say it at all because there's no point because no-one thinks your clever your just plain wrong!!

AnonymousSep 03 2004 8:46am
If your not happy on this site why not set up a new chat page

DERSep 03 2004 11:02am
go to www.sfbt.org.uk they have a fantastic discussion board.

j-loSep 07 2004 5:56am
don't go on it though to be rude about each other, its a nice website, so only for nice things please

AnonymousSep 07 2004 7:15am
If you do go to the sfbt web site they tag your IP ADDRESS when you post a message so if you do leave any offencive messages they can trace them back to you via your IP address so it is no good calling yourself anonymous because they can tell what computer the message came from. You have been warned so keep it nice

Computer buffSep 08 2004 4:42am
they can on this site, i know who said those things about my daughter, i'm still willing to accept an apology????

AnonymousSep 08 2004 6:40am
kezro is not all of netherhall and it dosent matter who is going to do our dances because its non of ur bees wax

dgSep 10 2004 3:50am
Good look to Kezro twirlers I hope your club is a great success.

lolSep 10 2004 6:28am
um...............................

AnonymousSep 10 2004 7:20am
um...............................

AnonymousSep 10 2004 7:20am
Good Look????????? Not good luck ?

AnonymousSep 10 2004 7:26am
look, luck who cares

roflolSep 10 2004 10:21am
good look to netherhall twirlers on sunday

AnonymousSep 11 2004 12:02am
Good Luck to all of region ten athletes, have a lovely day,would loved to have come and watched you all, but we are training, will see you at camp

the OggiesSep 11 2004 1:48am
good luck 2 evry1 at region 10 comp

Cuthbert's Rainbow TwirlersSep 11 2004 9:23am
good luck to all the athletes taking part in the NBTA European trials

jaySep 12 2004 3:08am
NBTA SCOTLAND TRIALS : 26TH SEPTEMBER GOOD LUCK

LOUSep 12 2004 3:10am
well done to all region 10 athletes that competed yesterday you all did supurb

AnonymousSep 13 2004 9:37am
A very big WELL DONE to Helena Melvin You were BRILLIANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

AnonymousSep 13 2004 10:53am
Is Helena stopping at Netherhal when they split

anonSep 14 2004 10:23am
don't think you should be talking about that on this site!!!

AnonymousSep 14 2004 1:57pm
im fed up with ppl slagging other ppl off ur all pathetic n i no hu is on about kezro all da time ur jus so immature im in kezro my self n its fyne its got nothing to do wid u at all so keep out if ya cant say n e fing nice also y is everyone gettin so bitchy we are all meant to get on and have good sportsmanship yes i did leave netherhall but it was to move on and better myself because i wasnt gettin the training there wot i needed now i am enjoying it alot more !! if n e ones going camp i will c ya dere n u lot stop all the bitching its so immature

emmaSep 15 2004 12:32pm
also well dun to every one at da comp on sunday it was a really gd day every one dune rli well especially ema carpenter n sophie gascoinge

...........Sep 15 2004 12:34pm
also well dun to every one at da comp on sunday it was a really gd day every one dune rli well especially ema carpenter n sophie gascoinge

...........Sep 15 2004 12:34pm
cant wait till camp wot level is everyone gin in den !!!!!!!!

kezro twirlerSep 15 2004 12:36pm
emma you are slagging netherhall off now,and if you read what you have put, you are also bitching

..........................Sep 15 2004 1:26pm
are kezro been running very long??

AnonymousSep 16 2004 6:57am
jeez man, whats with all the hype about netherhall/kezro split. It says no-wer in any sort of rules that once you join a club you stay with them forever, surely its better if we (kezro) branch and finally get the training that we need to improve. To those who are slagging us off, dude how sad! either you don't know us and are slaggin which just totally sux..and to those who do know us (which is kind of obvious from some of the comments on here huh?! we're not stupid...) then i personally still don't understand why you have a problem - is it jealously hunnys? ha...oh well im gonna love you (to those selected few nice people) and leave you..bye

C & LSep 16 2004 8:50am
don't think anyone anywhere has slagged kezro or netherhall??? think you need to read things properly, as for jealous??????????? um................. don't think so

AnonymousSep 16 2004 8:55am
people have only asked about kezro???

AnonymousSep 16 2004 8:57am
people have only asked about kezro???

AnonymousSep 16 2004 8:58am
the only unpleasant words are coming from yourselves!! and you don't know me, coz i don't twirl, just been browsing and don't understand where your coming from with the so called slaggin off from other people, do you have a guilty conscience??!!!

AnonymousSep 16 2004 9:55am
i no hu this anonymous is by the way

sophieSep 16 2004 10:23am
Grow up anyone can twirl for whoever they like good luck to you Kezro,whoever you are i play footie and i can play for who i like at the end of each season so go gals .....twirl away for who you like as long as you enjoy it .......

West Ham BoySep 16 2004 10:54am
no u dont

AnonymousSep 16 2004 11:44am
okai so maybe not slaggin but theres a certain vareity of comments on here that seem to be written in such a way that its meant to annoy us..

xXxSep 16 2004 1:15pm
what and where???? are you not taking things the wrong way??? there is still nothing on here (slagging) what an aweful expression?? read them properly, enquiring yes, i think even the usa asked, please stop the language, you are supposed to be young ladies, use nicer words,

AnonymousSep 16 2004 1:43pm
yes i agree, i wouldn't want my daughter in a club, with girls that use the language kezro twirlers use

AnonymousSep 16 2004 1:51pm
ah..wel....we know what troupe your from then don't we.....

AnonymousSep 17 2004 1:45pm
oh yeh and dont you think that coment above the last is puttin kexro down in one form or another?

AnonymousSep 17 2004 1:49pm
Hi I'm from the States and have had many dealings with clubs that seperate. When this happens there is always a feeling of anomosity betwen the two different factions, I have found that it is not usualy the children but the parents who cause it. You will probably find that as time goes by the feeling of anomosity dies away. So why not try to get along from the start you are all making yourself look foolish putting silly comments on what should be a forum about wonderful sport.

state sideSep 17 2004 4:14pm
oi! stop puttin kezro twirlers down we went 2 a sho b4 n thought they were really good an theres nuffin rong wiv there language thnx!!

zoe n zoe n shell n ruthSep 17 2004 4:46pm
oi! stop puttin kezro twirlers down we went 2 a sho b4 n thought they were really good an theres nuffin rong wiv there language thnx!!

zoe n zoe n shell n ruthSep 17 2004 4:49pm
I am a twirler from the USA, i am very dissappointed to read these abusive words, this site is set up to talk about the sport. You guys should change your act, it isn't very lady like, and puts a bad impression on the wonderful sport. You mean the words 'slagging' and 'bitching' and all other abusive words which have been put previously about things and people, aren't bad language, er... I don't think so. So come on, if you don't want bad things put about your club, think about the language you use, else you'll make people think that it's not just you guys being so un-called for, it'll put a bad reputation on everyone involved in baton twirling.

USA TwirlerSep 18 2004 3:33am
hey ho thinks i was thre to is chris barston te biggest stirer in twirlin

anon toSep 18 2004 7:33am
she is always thre to

anon toSep 18 2004 7:34am
Yea that figures i think its her.....

A twirling kidSep 18 2004 7:35am
I don't think you should be calling people on this site. Or at least, not name the people your on about. I think it's disgraceful!!!

USA twirlerSep 18 2004 9:13am
You guys are so immature, i don't know how the troup leader allowed you into this new club. I think it's very rude commenting on people and naming them!! I think you'll find you're the stirrers sophie and pals. I think i'll stick to my own USA site from now on. Sort yourselves out guys, or discuss your words somewhere else.

USASep 18 2004 9:20am
This site had been brought to the attention of the regional board that these clubs involved are registered to. There is a distinct possibility that the people bad mouthin on this site could jeoperdise the clubs involved. and could lead to your memberships with the BBTSA being Suspended. This would mean that you would not be able to twirl at competitions and your clubs could have their membership cancelled.

AnonymousSep 18 2004 10:12am
That is great, thankyou very much, i feel all these comments are very degrading and they deserve punishment who ever wrote them!

Thanks!!Sep 18 2004 12:29pm
Can we just stop this now please peoples - those arguing for or asgainst kezro or whatever... Some people don't like Kezro and don't agree with how we formed..thats there problem (and those who start to say that no-ones mentioned this and blah blah..we know they have even if its not on this site...) and nothing we have to deal with. As long as we're having fun and learning then we're happy and everybody else should be. Sorry to all the people we've offended by the way we talk or what we say or whatever...we're just sticking up for our team. thanx x

ClaireSep 19 2004 6:39am
I dont like the way people r slagging off viki johnson she is the best trainer ever

AnonymousSep 19 2004 8:24am
any1 in level 10 at camp this year?

AnonymousSep 19 2004 8:25am
I'm not going camp sadly, wish i was! I'd probably only be in about level 7/8 tho...

ClaireSep 19 2004 9:52am
i agree about vic!!!! She's brill and i can't wait to work with her this year!!!!!!!!!

AnonSep 19 2004 10:49am
i agree about vic!!!! She's brill and i can't wait to work with her this year!!!!!!!!!

AnonSep 19 2004 11:41am
sorry for all the bitching i have said and done im going in level a 11 this year hope to see all my pals there like megan and hampden park peepz who els is going in level 11

sophie gascoigne sorry againSep 19 2004 2:56pm
i hope now we can have a good sportmanship and get on fab let us all put it behind us wot has been said on this website and start fresh becuz i dont think there is any point sl**ging each other off sorry if i have hurt any ones feelings on tis website wot i have put or said im realy sorry and now i hope we can get on fab and brill and have a good sportmanship im looking forward too see ya megan and work with ya in level a 11 love yas

sophie gascoigneSep 19 2004 3:03pm
same here, even thought i didnt write nething...well on behalf of the troupe...sorry

ClaireSep 20 2004 8:33am
It's nice to see that you girls have the desency to appologies lets hope this is because you have seen the errors of your ways and not because of the threat of having your memberships suspended.

AnonymousSep 20 2004 8:39am
Thanks for the apology.

KoSep 20 2004 10:05am
by the way ppl vikki isnt goin 2 camp this year cos shes at uni but shes coming up 2 watch dance twirl and poms i think good luck 2 every at camp

AnonymousSep 20 2004 12:19pm
by the way ppl vikki isnt goin 2 camp this year cos shes at uni but shes coming up 2 watch dance twirl and poms i think good luck 2 every at camp

AnonymousSep 20 2004 12:19pm
well done girls for your apology ....its very reasuring to see what ever the reason.

anonSep 20 2004 3:09pm
good luck with your new troupe...

well wisherSep 20 2004 3:10pm
I would like to point out, there is an apology from K o, that is not my daughter Kelly, she has not to this day had an apology, we are still waiting,

her mumSep 21 2004 12:00am
thanks from k o, i meant, that has been put on, she has nothing to thank the person in question for,

AnonymousSep 21 2004 12:30am
now I know why I gave up twirling

an interested partySep 21 2004 2:59am
Be very aware that this site is being monitored. I am extremely disappointed to find that after judging at Region 10 and having a lovely day - I now have this site pointed out to me. Any person perporting to be a judge of the BBTSA may find themselves no longer in the BBTSA. Whether you like the sport or not 1) you should respect others rights to participate in something they enjoy without either demeaning it or in the case of most - not even know what it is. 2) to use bad language is unacceptable in any form - it isn't funny clever or adult 3)The way you are using this site is to the detriment of the sport and quite frankly is an appauling reflection on our country. I would urge you to STOP and stop now. You are using a channel whose purpose was for discussion and to make new friends and what you have done is to turn it into a mindless market to feed and/or destroy others egos. I would add to any new person coming to this web site that the majority of people involved in our sport are wonderful and as in every part of life it is the few that cause the problems. I urge you again to use this site for its purpose.

Pam Sheldrake (yes it really is)Sep 21 2004 4:37am
The comments and language used on this site by members of the BBTSA are totally unacceptable and the Board of the BBTSA are currently contacting the Regional Chairpersons of the members concerned to ensure that this practise stops immediately. Any member continuing to use this site in an abusive or inappropriate manner will be suspended or have their membership removed.

Linda PatersonSep 22 2004 4:04am
i am glad to see that someone within the BBTSA has finaly got a grip on this disgusting and vile forum the people that have been abusive on here deserve everything that is coming to them.

AnonymousSep 22 2004 5:36pm
Well how silly can you get, do silly girls that have used this site to call and belittle other athletes realise that from know on at competitions they will be watched by everyone that has read this site and there is a possibility that the judges may just favour other athletes rather than the mud slingers that have put there names on here

AnonymousSep 22 2004 5:40pm
Those athletes who did write on this site, made a mistake. All of us have, at some time in our lives did something we have later regreted and it was probably when we were this age. They are young and impressionable therefore comments made by the last three people are not helping matters. Threats like, you will be watched at competitions and judges will favour other athletes,people who have been abusive deserve everything coming to them, you will be suspended or have your membership removed. Please dont threaten young people or make them feel worthless, this is when things can go terribly wrong in their lives. I am sure the people concerned have learned from this and dont need to be bullied into submission by adults who should know beter. Also keep in mind that, like all things in life, young people get blamed for many things. It would have been very easy to attach any persons name to postings. Ask a teacher, it happens every day in schools all over the country. What happened to child protection. I dont remember a workshop based on threatening children if you dont like what they are doing. You will get better results if you point out the error of their ways and stop making threats that just back them into a corner. PROTECTING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, yes even the ones who make mistakes, SHOULD BE TOP OF YOUR LIST. Threats dont help.

concerned youth adviserSep 22 2004 11:40pm
to the concerned youth adviser, would you like me to send you a copy of was put by those making the MISTAKES???about MY daughter??? would you also like her to tell you the upset it caused her??? she was a young person on the receiving end of their Mistakes, theses mistakes have been going on for a very long time, constantly offending,by the same athletes, i don't believe two wrongs make a right,putting down, please stop the language etc has not worked,I had the obscenities removed, if not I was prepared to take legal action,the things you are reading now are tame to what MISTAKE was said about my daughter!!! once again if you would like a copy your welcome, but it was by no means a mistake

AnonymousSep 23 2004 7:01am
The trouble with society today is that we forgive far to easily. When I was young if you did wrong you got punished end of story. These days children know that they can do or say what they want and get away with it, as they know the law cannot touch them. I for one appreciate the stance being taken by the BBTSA. Stop them at the first stage or there on a slippery slope. I know this from exsperience having recently been attacked by some mindless youths, having for several years endured there insults and so called MISTAKES. I am now recovering from a broken jaw nose and cracked ribs I suppose this was a mistake on there part too!!!!.

AnonymousSep 23 2004 7:13am
I think now is a good time to conclude this. For those that have been hurt - I hope a time to mend For those that caused the harm - I hope a time to reflect. There is no place in the BBTSA for this kind of behaviour - so I hope that you have now realised this and the problems it causes. So please let us bring this to a conclusion. To all you young ladies that have sent each other good luck and well done messages - that is great - continue -thats what sport is all about and a very good use for the chat room. I do hope that this will be my last visit.

Pam SheldrakeSep 23 2004 8:13am
Good Luck at trials on Sunday to Symone Lauren Alanna

samanthaSep 24 2004 12:22pm
yes, good luck to all the Scots this weekend, hope you all do well!!

english twirlerSep 24 2004 1:30pm
Good Luck to every1 takin part in scottish Selections this weekend. Twirl well and :)

Dan dareSep 24 2004 4:05pm
Thank you

symoneSep 24 2004 10:56pm
hus going in level a 11 this year

sophieSep 25 2004 10:30am
hus going in level a 11 this year

sophieSep 25 2004 10:30am
sophie keep off now

AnonymousSep 25 2004 2:47pm
why should I, I've appologised so should be able to use he site the same as anyone else

AnonymousSep 25 2004 3:16pm
Lets stop all this and have a forum we can all be proud of

twirlerSep 25 2004 10:49pm
I can't wait for camp!! 3 weeks on friday, meet up with all your long distance friends

AnonymousSep 26 2004 8:38am
Any1 having private trainin with Kelly Donovan at camp. I've been told its $50 per hour plus hall costs.

AnonymousSep 27 2004 8:36am
i think its 50$ all inclusive,only what i was told

AnonymousSep 27 2004 8:52am
I've booked her and the cost is ?25 per hour plus hall costs

AnonymousSep 27 2004 1:09pm
God thats a lot of money I only pay ?6 per hour for my trainer plus hall costs

AnonymousSep 27 2004 1:10pm
Is that ?25 plus hall?

AnonymousSep 27 2004 2:47pm
$50 including hall

natSep 28 2004 8:33am
or ?25 including hall

natSep 28 2004 8:33am
?25 plus hall costs

AnonymousSep 28 2004 8:58am
25 pounds plus hall costs per hour

AnonymousSep 28 2004 8:59am
well worth it, i would think

AnonymousSep 28 2004 9:36am
yes, dont know why the pound sign is not showing. cost will reflect, flight , accomodation and expenses together with teaching fee for Kelly. cant expect Kelly to pay her own way to teach our athletes.

natSep 28 2004 10:28am
Did anyone go Nationals in Portsmouth this year???

CR TwirlerSep 29 2004 5:08am
yes why??

AnonymousSep 29 2004 6:21am
i did too

AnonymousSep 29 2004 7:29am
I think the BBTSA have paid her travelling expenses as she is teaching at camp the privates are just another way for her to make a bit of money whilst she is here. My dad thought paying 6 pound plus traveling expenses for my trainer was expensive I bet he will have a right moan when he finds out how much he will have to pay for me to have Kelly for a couple of hrs at camp.

AnonymousSep 29 2004 9:48am
How many hrs r u havin Kelly 4

AnonymousSep 29 2004 9:50am
I AM HAVING 3

ANONSep 29 2004 1:25pm
Has Kelly Donovan just a twirler or has she paseed her trainers exam?

AnonymousSep 30 2004 6:18am
yes I did nationals at Portsmouth

AnonymousSep 30 2004 8:02am
How did ever1 get on at the NBTA Scotland Trials last wekend. What pieces of music did people use? I am an English twirler and it would be gr8 to knw what music peeps used, That way I could make sure i didn't use the same music.

AnonymousSep 30 2004 8:33am
Don't you just hate it when you turn up for a comp and somebody else is using the same music. It would be a great idea to know what people are already using. I'm gonna be using Feugo.

English twirlerSep 30 2004 8:35am
hiya everyone is every 1 ok , hope so cant wait till camp im in level nine as n e one got msn,plus gud luck 2 every 1 at camp hope u all do brill !! cyaz emma

.................Sep 30 2004 10:27am
yes it is annoying, but not if you do a good job

AnonymousSep 30 2004 11:44am
it is bad if you have the same music as a level one!!!

AnonymousSep 30 2004 11:46am
who's doing pairs this year for selections??

english twirlerSep 30 2004 12:02pm
I could b r u ?

RayOct 02 2004 5:50am
hiya im not going selections i have never been i would love to go but i think i shud go in a few years or so so i am a bit better love yas

X-X-X-X-X-X-X-X-XOct 02 2004 5:54am
Kezro is a new troupe based in leicester and they are in region 10

me??Oct 03 2004 1:48am
so what

AnonymousOct 03 2004 11:16am
me????????????? ooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

AnonymousOct 03 2004 11:17am
so what

AnonymousOct 03 2004 11:17am
Looks like people are trying to get others in to trouble by pretending to be who they aren't. Thats not nice please behave on this site as it is being monitored and your Internet Provider Number is logged. This lets the Host know whos computer the message was left by. So if you are pretending to be someone else to get them in trouble IT WILL BACKFIRE ON YOU. Please use this site for what it was intended.

Concerned ParentOct 03 2004 3:58pm
To check your IP number just type ipconfig in command promt and you will see it this is the number used to track were the messages come from you have been warned

Computer BuffOct 03 2004 4:00pm
i wish it was that simple

AnonymousOct 03 2004 11:08pm
these numbers are allocated at random. no way of knowing who is using the number

pcOct 05 2004 12:30am
This is surposed to be a twirling site not a computer buffs site lets get back to talking about twirling rather than IP addresses.

AnonymousOct 05 2004 3:18am
The numbers can be traced back to the IPS provider so you can tell which country and which IPS the user is using, Once this ifo has been obtained you can then get intouch with the IPS to find out which account it has come from. This is how amateur computer hackers get caught. If you have Nortons firewall next time it shows a security alert click the icon get more details and you will see how easy it is to be found with an IP number. The best way to remain undetedcted is to piggy back of a proxy server.

computer buffOct 05 2004 3:22am
good try, but i can assure you it is not that simple, wish it was

AnonymousOct 05 2004 6:44am
can we give it a rest and talk about twirling please???

AnonymousOct 05 2004 8:15am
yeh i think we should !

.............Oct 06 2004 7:12am
Ok but no more bad mouthin on this site otherwise the pc buffs will start again

AnonymousOct 06 2004 11:39am
Any1 gonna b doin novelty nite at camp?

AnonymousOct 06 2004 11:40am
oooooooo really scared

AnonymousOct 06 2004 11:40am
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