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Question: There are a number of polls on this site which advocate female supremacy. Since the majority of posters are not interested in rational discussion unless it suits their views ,one could assume that the purpose of the poll is for their own gratification rather than for a give and take of ideas. Why do you post on those 'polls' ?.
Created by: FNOL at 07:06:21 AM, Tuesday, November 06, 2007 PST

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FNOL,I haven't a clue except to say these rambling writings about female supremacy have some fact about them and being an mra they annoy me.True to say I do not believe that any of them are actually women,they appear,by the standard of english offered to be rather young children who should not be online. The trouble is that as a sex males have never been in such trouble,read the blogs from angryharry and follow the links,so many men are committing suicide,have been bankrupted,thrown out of their houses,have even been deported all just for having rows with their women.Debtors prisons are full of the so called deadbeat dads who can't pay alimony.After assimilating all the ills that the mra sites are talking about,then come back here and you realise that these points of view will possibly take place unless we can change things.

mike sNov 10 2007 11:07am


I have already read some of the sites such as angry harry. I don't really approve , especially in the particular case of angry harry, as his arguments tend to have a worrying tinge of misogyny about them. I am in no doubt that there is a lack of womens rights in some key areas that must be addressed even in todays society. This already has nothing to do with the nutcases here, who are just as bad as the males they curse.

FNOLNov 10 2007 5:32pm
Greatest poll to show up here in a while...

FelixNov 13 2007 9:06am
I agree that these are "polls" in name only and in fact the orginal premise is a springboard for those with Femdom fantasies to expound upon them and trade comments with like minded people. And, particularly to mike s, they serve a purpose just as the UK romance novels of your Barbara Cartland served a purpose for the women who read them. If this was a real poll to help determine the form of government in the UK, US, or any other place for that matter, then obviously people who opposed the concepts expressed herein would have a reason to post and argue the other side. However, I wonder why people bother to do it when the site is meant as an obvious jumping off point for people who either in reality or fantasy, are into Femdom, Matriarchy and the like. It would be the equivalent of going to a stamp collectors meeting to tell the other people there that you do not like to collect stamps.

obedient husbandNov 13 2007 6:22pm
Hello Obedient Husband. It is great to be in agreement for once !. You do show a degree of insight which should be absent in a true submissive personality, which suggests that you're views might be more a lifestyle choice than an admittance of total inferiority to women. I post because of academic activities and because I love good debate. But I don't have much here , because as i said , this is not exactly a discussion as a femdom board. TO FELIX : Cheers ! ,hang around , I'm going to need someone to defend me if some of the other occupants of this board drop in..... :-)

FNOLNov 14 2007 12:09am
If you agreed with me you would not be posting on sites that are predicated on the acceptance of Femdom. You can do what you want but I think most of these boards are basically Femdom boards and posters who attack Femdom spoil the theme. It IS like going to the stamp club to tell people they shouldn't collect stamps.

obedient husbandNov 15 2007 3:43pm
Obedient husband, I honestly don't know what you are responding to, but it obviously has nothing to do with what I have posted or the meaning that was intended. There was no hostility or accusation leveled at you of any kind. If anything it was conciliatory or in praise. Not in an nasty sense : but please read carefully. As far as I can see, I have phrased things reasonably clearly. Cheers !.

FNOLNov 15 2007 7:17pm
Just as long as we all know where we are coming from and that these boards are accepted as fantasy then fine,but some apparent female fantasies seem to have to be of basically doing away with men altogether which should not suit our purpose.I doubt the dead having fantasies,there is a limit guys. I once had a wife with femdom tendencies which were not too overt and kept us happy but she died,that was a wrench.At the time ,back in the 70's men were well thought of so femdom was a trait engineered by the male which a certain number of females enjoyed without totally upsetting the balance of power between the sexes.Now it is different,females are now where we were then so femdom in its way is already the norm,but it is not sexy to feel that the other sex wants to do away with you and we want the female to be sexily arrogant don't we guys, thats the whole point of this board.

mike sNov 18 2007 9:30am
FNOL I realize you were trying to be nice. My point simply was that a person who creates a question like "Should all men be slaves to all women all the time?"(I am paraphrasing here) is asking a rhetorical question as a springboard for people who agree with the question, at least in fantasy, to post their fantasies. A post that disagrees with the rhetorical premise does not really serve a purpose. The people who have the fantasy already know there are other people who don't. I also agree with Mike S that Women who post on these boards to express total hostility to males rather than a desire to enslave them also are missing the fact that the premise is rhetorical. And now I am going to stop arguing with you two and see if I can find any new postings about the use of male slaves by Big Brenda.

obedient husbandNov 18 2007 6:54pm
" is asking a rhetorical question as a springboard for people who agree with the question" . Perhaps. But it doesn't do good to ones credibility to assume anything. At least at first. I guess you could say I have somewhat of a moral obligation to my case to take what is said seriously rather than to just insult and assume things about people with out at first engaging them. Thanks anyway, and of course...enjoy !.

FNOLNov 18 2007 7:26pm
#0011 - (Mon.) * 11/19/07

UpdateNov 19 2007 10:58am
The gender superiority discussion is as old as the human species. We are a competitive animal. This goes for men and Women. It's only natural that the sexes are locked in a seemingly perpetual battle to prove superiority over the other.

males who think that the current trend of 'male bashing' and misandry is unfair seem unaware that males have treated Women as inferior and even sub-human for eons. Women were considered the 'weaker vessel' by male scientists and philosophers until the 20th century when biological science compiled enough data to prove that it is in fact the male which is the weaker organism from a biological perspective.

There have always been those, men and Women, who recognize the superiority of the Female over the male throughout nature. A place such as this, where an open conversation can be found on the subject is a good thing. Some treat it as a way to let off steam, others just have fun with it. But the fact is that it is more than just a 'fetish' or the musings of psychosexual deviants.

anatomy is destinyNov 19 2007 2:20pm
You have presented a detailed argument , 'anatomy is destiny', but I think you're argument still reflects one truth : You have a conclusion or a wish for total female superiority , and you wish to justify this, regardless of the the truth. I don't mean to sound harsh, and no personal insult is intended to you. I respect you're opinion. But many of you're stated 'facts' such as genetic superiority (I am not addressing you're discourse on misogyny in history because on that part you are sadly correct) are bluntly put : beliefs shaped from wants, not facts in themselves. But again no insult intended and thanks for posting.

FNOLNov 19 2007 11:53pm
Obedient husband you have your wish.Thank you for courageously and astutely defending the Female Supremacists position. Anatomy Is Destiny what a great name and indicative of what is so true the respective superiority of the Female and the inferiority of the male as determined at birth.

Big BrendaNov 21 2007 11:20pm
No matter how hard I try, I don't find that terribly arousing Big Brenda. Try again....

FNOLNov 21 2007 11:44pm
It is always an honor to receive public praise from Big Brenda. Thank you Ma'am.

obedient husbandNov 25 2007 5:04pm
Big Brenda, how are you still breathing ?.

FNOLNov 26 2007 4:10pm
#0017 - (Tue.) * 12/4/07

UpdateDec 04 2007 3:11pm
Come on,Anatomy is destiny,tell us what men did to women to make you think the latter were treated as inferior and even subhuman,when was this?We are I trust talking about the developed world now,not neanderthal.

mike sJan 03 2008 2:57pm
I like the way this poll was designed, it's very clever really. "The majority of posters here are not interested in rational discussion" Then you see the #1 picked choice in the poll "Because I wish to state my supremacy(Female)" Basically by picking that choice, those people stated "I am picking the majority choice and admitting to being ignorant and not interested in intelligent discussion, even though I'm advocating females as being more intelligent, I'm admitting myself to be less intelligent with this choice". I mean really, read into the poll, think about the poll, truly genius, well done, FNOL.

I Have a Dream of Equality and Civil LibertiesJan 14 2008 2:32am
I like the way this poll was designed, it's very clever really. "The majority of posters here are not interested in rational discussion" Then you see the #1 picked choice in the poll "Because I wish to state my supremacy(Female)" Basically by picking that choice, those people stated "I am picking the majority choice and admitting to being ignorant and not interested in intelligent discussion, even though I'm advocating females as being more intelligent, I'm admitting myself to be less intelligent with this choice". I mean really, read into the poll, think about the poll, truly genius, well done, FNOL.

I Have a Dream of Equality and Civil LibertiesJan 14 2008 2:33am
"I have a dream..." you know what this poll is about and the meaning of all the choices. Don't even bother to try it on. I've heard you're 'point' thousands of times by every person who quite possibly think that they've taken a skillful and superbly executed punch at the ignorant 'FNOL'. As is common here ,you have illustrated this polls point effectively indeed. The thanks are all mine.

FNOLFeb 25 2008 2:53am
Women are clearly superior as shown. If you do not belive that females live longer then males, go on the many life expantancy calulators that are available free on the web. Usually the story will be the same, women outlive men by 7 or 8 years. Although a shock, you should not be embarrased by the weakness of men being male, but if you love your wife, try to reassure her that you will do everything possible to make sure that both you and your wife have a good retirement, and that if you go sooner you will provide for her, like you have done through out your life. As an example please read this, Biologically, there is a clear superiority of women over men: ? Women live longer by at least seven years! In the animal kingdom, the female also lives longer than the male. ? Women are more resistant to infectious agents and even cancer! ? Women work longer hours during their lifetime than men. Women have less leisure time. ? The infant mortality rate is less for girls than boys. ? In industrialized countries the greater longevity of women is an undisputed fact. ? Women are known to take better care of themselves, both physically and mentally. ? At any age, men are three times more likely to die of accidents, violence and cardiovascular diseases. ? Malignant cancer related to smoking and alcoholism occur more frequently in men. layer of fat.. ? Women are wealthier than men. The U.S. Treasury Department informs us that women die richer by outliving spouses and inheriting everything. ? Girls mature, on the average, three years earlier than boys.

KellieMar 28 2008 8:57am
Shown by what ? Kellie. What you have said is what is termed "spin" ,that is bending the facts to sit with you're belief. And even if what you said was true (which it is mostly not), science is developing at such a rate as to make you're points irrelevant anyway. As a man I am you're equal, and to assume otherwise is to you're detriment not mine. Thanks for posting.

FNOLApr 12 2008 1:36am
Thank you Kellie and others who acknowledge to themselves that Womyn are making important strides to what is natural.And what is natural is Matriarchy.

Big BrendaJun 03 2008 10:54pm
#0026 - (Tue.) 7/1/08 #0017 above SHOULD BE #0018

UpdateJul 01 2008 10:05pm
As always Big Brenda Ma'am, when You appear on these sites I bare my behind and grovel naked before You.

obedient husbandJul 30 2008 6:20pm
Thank you for your support and adopting a suitable position when you read my musings.Its nice to see males grovelling before me.it might depend though whether i want to see your behind.My males are mostly kept clothed though that may only be very tight shorts.It makes it more effective when I wish to have them naked especially in company if they are not over familiar with being nude amongst Womyn.

Big BrendaAug 14 2008 8:24pm
If You owned me Ma'am You could clothe me however You wished.

obedient husbandAug 17 2008 6:54pm
I think that there are four different kinds of people that post at these polls. 1. Those who have really experienced that women can be mentally AND physically stronger and that really need to have other people's opinions about this different and new situation. 2. there are people that want to post for their own pleasure, to make up stories and that are hoping for others to comment. 3. Men that want to call other men that show their weakness for sizzies and the strong women for lesbians or liars and 4. People that get irritated that people write about the male-female strenght issues. I belong to category 1. I have experienced that my relationship with my wife changed quite a lot when we discovered that she was a lot stronger than my physically. I honestly didn't know how to handle this situation and started to look at the internet to find men in a similar situation. I felt that I couldn't talk to anybody about this. I just couldn't tell my friends. I was shocked to find so many polls and web pages dealing with this issue. I have had quite a lot of help reading all these postings at the different polls even if I realize that quite a few stories are made up. It is not such a big deal for a woman to come to grips with being stronger, it is much harder for a man to realize he is weaker for sure. My wife has taken over the lead of our relationship after the night she showed me she was stronger, it all started with a simple armwrestling match that she won easily, we were both quite surprised about this. We than wrestled for real, no play wrestling, and it got quite serious and my wife really showd me that she could hurt me if she wants to. After this wrestling match I had to be home from work some days to recover. I know that many of the postings from men that have experienced that their wifes or girlfriends are stronger can be true. So at least a part of the men that are posting have true experiences to relate mainly to get it out of their chests. And yes, I have started to work out to get stronger but unfortunately my wife has time to work out more than me so the difference in strength is today even bigger than that evening when she showed me that woman can be very strong.

True postingAug 18 2008 12:03am
FNOL i enjoy your opinions and the reasoned arguements you put forward but choose as is my right to disagree with them.My breathing seems to be in order how are your lungs?

Big BrendaFeb 15 2009 7:29pm
Are any of you celebrities in disguise?

Panty boyNov 21 2009 11:10am
OH are u wearing your CB-3000???

GAMar 05 2012 11:06am
I think some of the posts are honest statements of advocacy for one side or the other. And yes, some press on into fantasies they entertain or even want to see come true. Just remember fantasies often turn into reality. Literature is filled with examples of flights of fancy that have, for good or ill, become realized. Many who post here present some pretty convincing scenarios and even blueprints of how female dominance might be acheived. Many men desire to be dominated. Many women desire to dominate men. The desire is there. The technology is there. The political means are there. The historical justification is there. Women are on the brink of making this possible. Whether they will dominate, and to what degree they will dominate us, depends on us. We can continue to behave like asses that require daily whipping and enslavement to keep us from destroying everything or we can try to act like supportive helpmates who care about the women in our lives enough to submit to their leadership.

KeenOct 14 2013 11:11pm
How many of the previous speaker wrote, there exist more and more women who workout but less and less men who workout and therefore the strength difference is much smaller between men and women. In relation to their body size men have less strength but women have more strength. If you compare a big men and a small women of course he is stronger. But in average men are only a little bigger than women nowadays therefore the strength difference is only very small. Young women have learned that they are not always weaker than men and it is not unfeminine to have muscles even then if they have bigger muscles than men. Well because off the body sizes has moved for both sexes men are often not that tall as before and women often taller as before. Especially tall women have learned that they’re stronger than men. In the gyms i worked out there i never was the the strongest even then when i was the only man, there was always at least a woman who was stronger than me. Nowadays women have clearly increased the average strength level so i’m as man are clearly weaker. I made the experience with most of my girlfriends and i think women enjoy if they are the stronger ones and also to show their superiority. I think this because many women are pretty tall. Often only a little shorter than average men. Nevertheless they wear heels so then most men are shorter then these women.

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